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Todd Haley is the "Mystery of Pittsburgh" (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=261647)

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8760573)

Though on each of these things, I think that's moreso on Hoffman than on Romeo.

And where is Hoffman now?

If I had a choice of grabbing a beer with Haley or Pioli it would be Haley hands down. While neither are an angel in the situation I'm sure I'm pretty sure one of them isn't hiding behind upper management and bureaucracy.

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8760580)

Even if he won a couple games, the shine came off Romeo as soon as he showed he was cool with coaching a team led by Matt Cassel.

He's just collecting a paycheck.

So, you would have preferred that he publicly call out the QB and GM?

Which planet do you live on, again?

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8760589)

Haley's a ****ing moron. I feel sorry for Steelers fans.

While I have been extremely vocal in my dislike for many of Pioli's decisions, this roster is among the best and youngest in decades. Outside of the QB situation, he's done a fine job.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8760590)

So, you would have preferred that he publicly call out the QB and GM?

Which planet do you live on, again?

I would have preferred he not take the job, and force Pioli to do something smart.

Romeo is smart enough to know he isn't winning shit with Cassel. He's not gonna turn down a nice raise, though.

It's kind of like a guy getting promoted to manager and running a restaurant that's going under. Why would he turn down the promotion?

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8760579)

Thanks for the truthful admission.

I think that Romeo is among the best Defensive Coordinators of the past two decades. He constantly puts his players in a position to "win" each series and I think that we can all say that we've seen obvious growth in older players such as DJ and in younger players such as Hali, Dorsey and even Jackson.

As for Daboll, I didn't follow Cleveland when both he and Romeo were in that dreadful organization. But I do know that no one has had any success since Bill Belichick's 1994 season. It's been a complete and utter black hole since returning to the league and Mike Holmgren, who had Super Bowl success in Green Bay and Seattle, is spinning his wheels in the mud in Cleveland.

Daboll took over a bad Miami offense last year and without the help of OTA's and Mini-camps, created an offense about six games in that scored something like 25 points a game. He made Reggie Bush a complete running back for the first time in career and made guys like Anthony Fasano and Matt Moore appear respectable. I'd like to think that with the Chiefs offensive line and weapons, he'll be able to pick up where he left off in Miami and oversee an extremely potent offense, despite Cassel's shortcomings.

I am making no predictions at this point in time but I am hopeful that this young teams takes a huge leap on offense and the defense becomes a top NFL unit with the return of Eric Berry, the continued maturation of Dorsey, Jackson, Houston, Belcher and Lewis, along with the additions of Poe and Menzie.

The future is brighter than it's been in decades, IMO.

I agree with you on Romeo as a Defensive Coordinator. I think he's a terrific coach and a terrific playcaller. And I agree that he is probably one of the better at both in the game right now.

As a head coach... he had some problems in Cleveland. You're right that maybe in his second stint, he fixes them. But we can't ignore that they happened. He has to be a better game manager in KC and he has to shed the reputation that he is soft on his players in a head coaching capacity. I hope he fixes those and I'm rooting for him to fix them. But for now, they're areas of concern for me until I see him prove those are things of the past.

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8760595)

I would have preferred he not take the job, and force Pioli to do something smart.

You expect a man that's offered an NFL head coaching job to say "No"?

ROFL

I just hope that Cleveland really is/was the blackhole for successful coaches.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8760586)

And where is Hoffman now?

Exactly. I don't blame those mistakes on Romeo. I don't know how much he had power to influence that.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8760582)

Sure.

And the Dwayne Bowe singlehandedly loses games because he drops too many passes.

Dude, I'm serious. Go back and watch the game if you can. They screwed up about seven or eight plays they normally make.

The football gods smiled on us that day.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8760597)

But we can't ignore that they happened.

Wrong.

I'm ignoring it. It's that simple. I'll take Romeo at face value in KC. If he's great, awesome. If he's average, that's too bad. If he's awful, the Chiefs will hire someone else.

But what happened in Cleveland, CLEVELAND of all places, should not be the sole barometer of the job he'll do in Kansas City. It shouldn't even factor in because it's the real Black Hole of the NFL.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8760559)

Juggernaut of offensive and defensive talent.

True, but we lost Orton.

FTR, I'm willing to give Romeo a chance.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8760599)

You expect a man that's offered an NFL head coaching job to say "No"?

ROFL

No, I don't. I'm not surprised he took the job.

That's a nice raise. Nice fat check to throw in the retirement fund right before retirement.

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8760603)

Dude, I'm serious. Go back and watch the game if you can. They screwed up about seven or eight plays they normally make.

The football gods smiled on us that day.

I am absolutely unwilling to say that the Chiefs won that day because the Packers lost. It's the NFL. There are no gimmies.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8760606)

True, but we lost Orton.

FTR, I'm willing to give Romeo a chance.

Personally, I'm not happy with the fact that Pioli didn't seem to make an effort to re-sign Orton. The Packers game was the first game since 2005 that I felt like I was watching a NFL-caliber starting QB (and Orton is just average, at best).

I really can't figure out Pioli's end game at QB. It's difficult to have any kind of feel for Stanzi because he missed OTA's and Mini Camps in 2011, so he was certainly behind the curve entering training camp. And I'm quite glad that he wasn't thrown to the wolves last year, unprepared, because that could have shattered his confidence, although a more suitable backup should have been signed.

Pioli should be ashamed to have had Tyler Palko as his starting QB.