Define "tradition"? Do you mean fielding a team? Mizzou first fielded a football team in 1890... the same year KU did.

Please educate me as to what comprises a tradition in your eyes. Entertain me.

Riggo is part of my family tree.

Hooray for my claim to fame! :)

Cool. How so?

My grandpa's cousin.

Have only seen him a handful of times...the last being about 10 years ago at a funeral unfortunately.

He is a character, that's for sure.

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You also have Aqib Talib out there.

The snarky thing to do would be for me to fire back about somebody from UCF... yeah. Can't think if anybody that ever went there.

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Hey, don't get angry at me, I'm as big a KU fan as you'll find. I guess I mean if someone wanted to show that KU football doesn't have much of a "winning tradition", its hard to argue that. Just as when MU fans try to claim some sort of "winning tradition", they too are hard pressed to prove that. The only true winning program is KU basketball, but that's not what they were talking about.

I mentioned what I'm proud of with KU football. Gale Sayers is one of the best players in college football history.

OK, I've heard of them. Didn't know where they went to school.

That's cool. I'd say KU has a tradition, albeit, not stellar. Part of that tradition is about being overshadowed by the basketball program.

Other than the person I quoted, of course.

Not at all. I just found it ironic that you called someone out for not counting the bowl appearances of Mizzouri in the 50s and 60s, yet you disallowed those of KU.


I'm not a KU fan, I'm just trying to keep up with all of the rule changes in this thread.

And David Jaynes... o:-)

It's college football. There aren't really any rules.

This should revive this thread

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/S...g-12-ESPN.aspx

The Big 12 is on the verge of a blockbuster TV contract that will put its media revenue among the top tier of college conferences, despite losing several marquee programs in the last two years.

The Big 12 and ESPN are nearing an extension that will earn the conference — combined with its Fox TV contract — $2.5 billion over the next 13 years, according to industry sources. The ESPN extension would run through 2025 and sync up with Fox’s deal.

By network, the Big 12 stands to make $1.3 billion from ESPN and $1.2 billion from Fox over the life of the two deals. ESPN’s old contract with the Big 12 ran through 2016, but the two sides are close on a nine-year extension that will increase the conference’s average revenue from its current $150 million a year to nearly $200 million annually. Each Big 12 school will make roughly $5 million more a year in the new contract over the old deal.

“We have an existing agreement with the Big 12 that has four years remaining,” said Mike Soltys, ESPN vice president of communications. “We are in regular conversations with all our partners about future opportunities. There’s nothing beyond that.”

The Big 12’s potential revenue windfall comes on the heels of mass upheaval for the conference, which has lost Texas A&M and Missouri to the SEC, while adding Texas Christian from the Mountain West and West Virginia from the Big East to stay at 10 teams. Additionally, the new media revenue could effectively end any discussion of the Big 12 expanding back to 12 teams, not the news that the University of Louisville wanted to hear. The Cardinals had been positioned as a strong candidate to join the Big 12 if it expanded.

Under the new terms, each Big 12 school will average just under $20 million a year. Schools in the Pac-12, which also partnered with ESPN and Fox to generate its record $3 billion deal over 12 years, will average nearly $21 million per school.

It remains to be seen how the Big 12’s new contract will affect the ongoing negotiations between ESPN and two other league partners, the SEC and the ACC. Both conferences expanded to 14 schools, which makes them eligible to negotiate new terms.