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Bane 05-18-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6765023)
At this point, it's still such a crapshoot...

SD is still the team to beat, they have a fine young nucleus and Ryan Matthews has all the ability to do well - I like the dual threat at RB they have now. I don't think they're one of the 'elite' teams, but they are damn good.

Oakland gets better simply by making the QB switch, they have a ton of work to do, but maybe Campbell brings and extra something to the table that they have really missed.

KC and Denver both have made interesting moves... we've discussed them all in depth, no need to repeat.

I think SD obviously has the best change (right now) to hit 10-12 wins... but, the other three teams should make it more competitive without question.

I think we're a good year away from getting back to really solid divisional play in the AFCW.

I can agree with that.I'm still not sold on Campbell though,even though I agree on Oak getting better by moving on from JaPorkchop.

Mile High Mania 05-18-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6765040)
I can agree with that.I'm still not sold on Campbell though,even though I agree that Oak getting better by moving on from JaPorkchop.

I don't know... it's really hard to judge him, I mean WAS was a mess and now he's in another mess.

But, he has improved each year - http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CampJa00.htm

Never more INT than TDs... Completion Rate / Yards / TDs ... they've all increased each year. I think he has good upside, but I don't know that OAK is the ideal team for him to prove it.

But, OAK is still much better off...

Bane 05-18-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6765087)
I don't know... it's really hard to judge him, I mean WAS was a mess and now he's in another mess.

But, he has improved each year - http://www.pro-football-reference.co...C/CampJa00.htm

Never more INT than TDs... Completion Rate / Yards / TDs ... they've all increased each year. I think he has good upside, but I don't know that OAK is the ideal team for him to prove it.

But, OAK is still much better off...

Yeah I guess he had what,7 different OC's or some crazy shit like that?Maybe it was 7 different O systems...Can't remember what I had read on him a while back but it was something like that.

boogblaster 05-18-2010 11:21 AM

Faiders sent one packing ... the replacement will get packed this year ....

Quesadilla Joe 05-19-2010 04:48 AM

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"Having been a part of Belichick's program in Cleveland and watching Josh's practice for the first time live, there is is so much that reminds me of a Belichick program in terms of the teaching, the fundamentals, the attention to detail in each period. I think Denver is going to be a lot better than people suspect they may be, because they are going to be well coached and they will have attention to detail and I think the players will get better as each game goes along."
From Michael Lombardi who attended Denver's OTA the other day. He also said he was really impressed with Brady Quinn and thinks he will be the starter once the regular season starts.

Pasta Giant Meatball 05-19-2010 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6766646)
From Michael Lombardi who attended Denver's OTA the other day. He also said he was really impressed with Brady Quinn and thinks he will be the starter once the regular season starts.

So, Kyle Orton was so great last year that not only did Denver trade for a QB they intend to start, but they also reached for one in the first round.

Quesadilla Joe 05-19-2010 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 6766647)
So, Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton was so great last year that not only did Denver trade for a QB they intend to start, but they also reached for one in the first round.

Orton played just as well as Matt Cassel did for the Patriots in 2008. He isn't a "franchise QB" but he is a solid starter. McDaniels said that he wants the best player on his football team to be the QB. That is why he brought in Brady Quinn and drafted Tim Tebow.

Pasta Giant Meatball 05-19-2010 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6766649)
Orton played just as well as Matt Cassel did for the Patriots in 2008. He isn't a "franchise QB" but he is a solid starter. McDaniels said that he wants the best player on his football team to be the QB. That is why he brought in Brady Quinn and drafted Tim Tebow.

Fair enough. I was under the impression that you thought of Orton as a "franchise" guy.

Mile High Mania 05-19-2010 07:06 AM

All I know is that Orton continues to get a bad rap... he's not an elite franchise guy, but there aren't many in the league right now. There were many things wrong with Denver last year... Orton catches more heat than he deserves.

I'm fine with the best player winning the spot, but it's not Tebow right now... and likely won't be for another year. Quinn... I dunno, he has a small body of work from CLE and that's not exactly a place many QBs can thrive consistently.

We'll see what happens, but I'm not getting caught up in OTA and training camp fodder tidbits from the talking heads. It is Orton's job to lose... we'll see if the R1 picks sitting behind him can win the job.

shitgoose 05-19-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6766646)
"Having been a part of Belichick's program in Cleveland and watching Josh's practice for the first time live, there is is so much that reminds me of a Belichick program in terms of the teaching, the fundamentals, the attention to detail in each period. I think Denver is going to be a lot better than people suspect they may be, because they are going to be well coached and they will have attention to detail and I think the players will get better as each game goes along."

From Michael Lombardi who attended Denver's OTA the other day. He also said he was really impressed with Brady Quinn and thinks he will be the starter once the regular season starts.

So well coached they started 6-0 last year, dropped 8 of 10, and failed to make the playoffs? Got it.

Quesadilla Joe 05-23-2010 03:27 AM

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I like Josh's program. I think player development is critical, I think there's going to be 2 or 3 players that nobody knows about on every team that has to come through, and when you watch Denver practice, you see their after practice, how they coach the players and how they try to get their young players up to speed is really impressive and I think they are gonna win.

I think what Denver has as an organization is a unique situation like they had with Mike (Shanahan) is they have a guy who can coach a QB in Josh McDaniels. And Josh can develop a QB.

I thought McBath looked good the other day. I thought he was really impressive in terms of his range, his athleticism in the practices that I watched on Monday. I left that complex thinking that McBath was a good player. I think Ayers will be a much better player this year and I think certainly Moreno is going to be a very talented guy. I would say Damaryius Thomas is going to impact this football team greatly. I talked to too many NFL teams that watched Demaryius Thomas play that they were gonna draft this guy early in the draft. I think that he was in a run offense in college helps him because he doesn't have any bad habits. I think he can come in and run what they want him to do, he's extremely smart, he can make plays down the field, and after watching practice they are trying to throw the ball up the field, they're trying to make more plays vertically and I think Damaryius Thomas is gonna give them a lot of impact and I think that certainly will help their offensive gameplan. I think he can develop into a big time, BIG TIME player, in terms of being able to run with the ball after the catch and on the third level coming down with the football.
Some more Broncos love from Mike Lombardi. :)

Quesadilla Joe 05-24-2010 01:58 PM

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McD on Robert Ayers: "I've definitely noticed a difference...Robert has taken a very professional approach."
https://twitter.com/MaxBroncos/status/14642050164

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More McD on Ayers: "He's one of our top players in our offseason program."
https://twitter.com/MaxBroncos/status/14642061874

That is not a good sign for the AFCW. The Dumervil/Ayers tandem could be lethal this year. :)

Archie Bunker 05-24-2010 02:01 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ensive-talent/

"I never let hearsay and gossip determine what I think of a player, and I haven't with Jay,'' Martz said. "What I've seen in him so far is he has no flaws. None. He's got no ego. I'm sure I've not met anyone as intelligent as him at quarterback. He's been a great leader. He can make all the throws. His recognition of the defense at the snap of the ball is freaky, incredible. He sees things the way Kurt used to see them. He came to me with a completely open mind about this offense, and every day when I come to work, he's ready to learn. It tickles me. He's bought in so completely.''

Quesadilla Joe 05-24-2010 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 6777418)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ensive-talent/

"I never let hearsay and gossip determine what I think of a player, and I haven't with Jay,'' Martz said. "What I've seen in him so far is he has no flaws. None. He's got no ego. I'm sure I've not met anyone as intelligent as him at quarterback. He's been a great leader. He can make all the throws. His recognition of the defense at the snap of the ball is freaky, incredible. He sees things the way Kurt used to see them. He came to me with a completely open mind about this offense, and every day when I come to work, he's ready to learn. It tickles me. He's bought in so completely.''

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One of the six Chicago Bears coaches who were fired on Tuesday referred to starting quarterback Jay Cutler as a "coach killer", according to a report by Sports Illustrated.

The report did not identify which coach made the remark.
http://www.covers.com/articles/artic...Art=178471&t=0

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The perception is that no one wants to come work for Smith, who is in a win-or-else situation, but rumblings at the Senior Bowl are that some candidates could be turned off by quarterback Jay Cutler and donít want to hitch their wagon to him.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ordinator.html

Quesadilla Joe 05-24-2010 02:10 PM

Oh and here is Mike Martz on Jay Cutler LAST year.

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"[Cutler] just doesn't get it,'' Martz said. "He doesn't understand that he represents a great head coach and the rest of those players on that team ... somebody needs to talk to him."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ing-on-cutler/


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