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ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9369775)
I like Geno Smith at #1, but I wouldn't go around calling it a "fact" that it's the best option.

Ok...factwas not the best word to use but I have been a fan for over two decades. Been a football fan for over 3 decades so perhaps what I said couldn't be "proved" through science but I don't think anyone can convince me other wise...no matter the thickness of their BS!

htismaqe 02-01-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9369769)
Exactly. Geno is an overwhelming favorite here. If I was talk about how much I like Joeckel as a prospect it, Id have to preface the statement with "now I'd still take Geno no. 1, but".... otherwise neg rep bombs

From the same 4 or 5 people.

You haven't gotten negative reps from ME, let alone the other 140+ people that voted they would take Geno...

Mr_Tomahawk 02-01-2013 09:33 AM

Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl

AR prefers deeper passing, so far from a lock. MT @R1balla: @caplannfl Alex smith is gonna go to KC and Reid will draft luke with 1st.

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9369788)
Ok...factwas not the best word to use but I have been a fan for over two decades. Been a football fan for over 3 decades so perhaps what I said couldn't be "proved" through science but I don't think anyone can convince me other wise...no matter the thickness of their BS!

Nope, SNR proved it through a complex algorithm based on the core principles of musicology and watching Geno's highlight film. Don't ask, but the algorithm is flawless.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9369796)
Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl

AR prefers deeper passing, so far from a lock. MT @R1balla: @caplannfl Alex smith is gonna go to KC and Reid will draft luke with 1st.

So Caplan isn't buying the Alex Smith rumors, huh?

Who is R1balla?

RyFo18 02-01-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9369788)
Ok...factwas not the best word to use but I have been a fan for over two decades. Been a football fan for over 3 decades so perhaps what I said couldn't be "proved" through science but I don't think anyone can convince me other wise...no matter the thickness of their BS!

That's fair. That said, go Geno!

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-01-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9369795)
From the same 4 or 5 people.

You haven't gotten negative reps from ME, let alone the other 140+ people that voted they would take Geno...

Maybe the same 4 or 5 people really support and defend Geno, but I'd say yall have done a good job of changing how he is perceived on this board. I don't see it the same way. I don't think that means they don't care, I think they just concede to some of the brighter football minds. It's nothing new that some of our more vocal football minds control the thought process of the board. The average football fan is easily swayed. I do it with my friends all the time.

O.city 02-01-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9369773)
This fan base should be ok with any "veteran" QB not currently on the Chief's roster. However, that does not change the fact that Geno Smith (at least for now) is the best option at the #1 pick of the draft for the KC Chiefs.

No they shouldn't be. Look at MagicHefs post.


Best way to get a franchise QB is the first round. Free agent Qb's don't win SB's. If the greatest free agent Qb in the history of the NFL couldn't, I doubt Alex Smith will.

RealSNR 02-01-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9369474)
Marshall W 69-34
James Madison W 42-12
Maryland W 31-21
Texas Tech L 49-14
Kansas State L 55-14
Syracuse L 38-14

Yea look at those shootouts.

If you are going to hurt your knees blowing him all offseason you could at least watch ALL of his games like us real fans.

Why did you leave off the Baylor game, reerun? That was even the game YOU brought up and that I responded to.


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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9368980)
Like Geno v Baylor?

The Baylor game was a shootout. Not garbage time.

If you didn't mean the Baylor game specifically was garbage time, then you have a problem with the English language. Be clear or get ****ed.

Rasputin 02-01-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9369773)
This fan base should be ok with any "veteran" QB not currently on the Chief's roster. However, that does not change the fact that Geno Smith (at least for now) is the best option at the #1 pick of the draft for the KC Chiefs.

YEah NO, I call bull shit. This fan base should not be ok with any "veteran" QB not currently on the Chief's roster. IMO I think Geno Smith is the best option, but at the same time better pay attention to the other QBs in the draft that a few of them are still better than any ****tart retread QBs from other teams. We have been down that route 30 years man. End the Blackledge curse and draft a QBOTFF. ****ing stupid if we don't ****ing stupid if we don't.

RealSNR 02-01-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9369806)
Nope, SNR proved it through a complex algorithm based on the core principles of musicology and watching Geno's highlight film. Don't ask, but the algorithm is flawless.

You can't be a sarcastic prick who minces words when you're a doctor, you know. You better start practicing on the internet. After all, you said how somebody behaves on the internet is pretty much how they are in real life.

Rasputin 02-01-2013 09:55 AM

Can some of these Alex Smith trheads be merged? Please.

Freaking one is two many.

ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9369821)
YEah NO, I call bull shit. This fan base should not be ok with any "veteran" QB not currently on the Chief's roster. IMO I think Geno Smith is the best option, but at the same time better pay attention to the other QBs in the draft that a few of them are still better than any ****tart retread QBs from other teams. We have been down that route 30 years man. End the Blackledge curse and draft a QBOTFF. ****ing stupid if we don't ****ing stupid if we don't.

I agree 100% with this. Not drafting Geno with #1 pick is not an option in my mind. I am happy with drafting two QBs this year but I think every team needs a NFL experienced QB on the roster, one who has won games.

I am not nor have I ever been a fan of Alex Smith but the guy has been on a team that has one games, even a playoff win. He has see good and bad coaching. I would hope that Geno could beat Alex out for the starting position.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-01-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9369835)
I agree 100% with this. Not drafting Geno with #1 pick is not an option in my mind. I am happy with drafting two QBs this year but I think every team needs a NFL experienced QB on the roster, one who has won games.

TEBOW!

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 09:58 AM

EVERYONE MUST AGREE WITH ME OR THEY ARE ****ING STUPID.

I think the main reason Geno #1 has been discussed "ad nauseum" (as some on here put it) is because the Geno supporters choose to do so. You guys literally flock to any thread that even remotely discusses a QB.

Report: Andy Reid was reading a magazine with Alex Smith on the cover, sources say
CP Geno obsessors: OMG GENO #1 OR GTFO

If Geno isn't #1, this place will erupt.

King_Chief_Fan 02-01-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369831)
You can't be a sarcastic prick who minces words when you're a doctor, you know. You better start practicing on the internet. After all, you said how somebody behaves on the internet is pretty much how they are in real life.

ROFL that left a mark!

FringeNC 02-01-2013 10:00 AM

Interesting regarding Alex Smith, assuming of course that Reid really does like Alex Smith. Would Reid view Smith as a stopgap/mentor or does Reid think he can make him into a top 10 QB?

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369831)
You can't be a sarcastic prick who minces words when you're a doctor, you know. You better start practicing on the internet. After all, you said how somebody behaves on the internet is pretty much how they are in real life.

Thanks man. This post literally saved my career.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9369840)
EVERYONE MUST AGREE WITH ME OR THEY ARE ****ING STUPID.

I think the main reason Geno #1 has been discussed "ad nauseum" (as some on here put it) is because the Geno supporters choose to do so. You guys literally flock to any thread that even remotely discusses a QB.

Report: Andy Reid was reading a magazine with Alex Smith on the cover, sources say
CP Geno obsessors: OMG GENO #1 OR GTFO

If Geno isn't #1, this place will erupt.

Why the **** do you care?

Rasputin 02-01-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9369835)
I agree 100% with this. Not drafting Geno with #1 pick is not an option in my mind. I am happy with drafting two QBs this year but I think every team needs a NFL experienced QB on the roster, one who has won games.

I am not nor have I ever been a fan of Alex Smith but the guy has been on a team that has one games, even a playoff win. He has see good and bad coaching. I would hope that Geno could beat Alex out for the starting position.

They sign Alex Smith before the draft you can kiss Geno Smith ass good bye. That is the biggest reason I am against Alex Smith and be pissed if we do sign him. Geno Smith doesn't need Alex Smith to "mentor" him. He needs to learn from the coaches of what they want him to do. The biggest thing he needs to do is play the & sooner he gets on the field the better.

The more people want Alex Smith for what ever reason here the more I HATE Alex Smith, not as a person, but as yet another reject fail of an attempt to sell us a crap of goods that is still crap.

RealSNR 02-01-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9369840)
EVERYONE MUST AGREE WITH ME OR THEY ARE ****ING STUPID.

I think the main reason Geno #1 has been discussed "ad nauseum" (as some on here put it) is because the Geno supporters choose to do so. You guys literally flock to any thread that even remotely discusses a QB.

Report: Andy Reid was reading a magazine with Alex Smith on the cover, sources say
CP Geno obsessors: OMG GENO #1 OR GTFO

If Geno isn't #1, this place will erupt.

It's QB at #1 or bust, first of all. At least for most people on here. That's another thing you got flat out ****ing wrong.

Also, yes. If you want Luke Joeckel at #1, you're a ****ing idiot. I'm sorry you're still in 5th grade where everybody's opinions are equal, but that's not how shit ****ing works in the real world. If I said, "It's my opinion that Hitler was a great man," I'll bet you wouldn't have tolerance for my opinion now, would you?

RealSNR 02-01-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9369849)
Thanks man. This post literally saved my career.

You're doing that sarcastic prick thing again.

the Talking Can 02-01-2013 10:07 AM

CAN YOU FEEL THE EXCITEMENT

http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_...filiate.81.jpg

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369863)
It's QB at #1 or bust, first of all. At least for most people on here. That's another thing you got flat out ****ing wrong.

Also, yes. If you want Luke Joeckel at #1, you're a ****ing idiot. I'm sorry you're still in 5th grade where everybody's opinions are equal, but that's not how shit ****ing works in the real world. If I said, "It's my opinion that Hitler was a great man," I'll bet you wouldn't have tolerance for my opinion now, would you?

Yes, equate a dictator who killed thousands with the Chiefs #1 pick.

LMAO

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369868)
You're doing that sarcastic prick thing again.

Sorry.

You had no impact on my career, and I took your post with a grain of salt considering your track record.

Better?

mdchiefsfan 02-01-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9369862)
They sign Alex Smith before the draft you can kiss Geno Smith ass good bye. That is the biggest reason I am against Alex Smith and be pissed if we do sign him. Geno Smith doesn't need Alex Smith to "mentor" him. He needs to learn from the coaches of what they want him to do. The biggest thing he needs to do is play the & sooner he gets on the field the better.

The more people want Alex Smith for what ever reason here the more I HATE Alex Smith, not as a person, but as yet another reject fail of an attempt to sell us a crap of goods that is still crap.

agreed. We all know how limited snaps are to come by in practice. Putting someone ahead of our QBOTF only lessens his development. **** that!

RealSNR 02-01-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9369875)
Yes, equate a dictator who killed thousands with the Chiefs #1 pick.

LMAO

"I think the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel."

"I think Hitler was a great man."

They're both irrational statements. Why might somebody like Hitler? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to national socialism and racial purity like a religion

Why do fans want to pick Joeckel? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand/they don't care enough to actually think about why this is a bad idea
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to True Fanism where the only acceptable options for a starting QB are training camp heroes and backups from other teams. Pretty much a religion.

They're both weak opinions. Ill-supported. Not logically sound. Stupid. They're both stupid opinions.

Sometimes people have opinions that disagree with mine, and sometimes those opinions are really ****ing stupid. People who think Hitler was a great man or that the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel have opinions that disagree with mine. Those also happen to be really ****ing stupid. It's not intellectually arrogant for me to dismiss them from conversations for spouting that kind of dumbass bullshit. Regardless of what I believe or not, those are two really stupid opinions.

Do you see how this works?

Coogs 02-01-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9369862)
They sign Alex Smith before the draft you can kiss Geno Smith ass good bye. That is the biggest reason I am against Alex Smith and be pissed if we do sign him. Geno Smith doesn't need Alex Smith to "mentor" him. He needs to learn from the coaches of what they want him to do. The biggest thing he needs to do is play the & sooner he gets on the field the better.

The more people want Alex Smith for what ever reason here the more I HATE Alex Smith, not as a person, but as yet another reject fail of an attempt to sell us a crap of goods that is still crap.

There does exist the possibility that Alex Smith could wait until after the draft to pick his team if he is released.

Not sure I see either of those two things happening, but it is possible.

Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369889)
"I think the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel."

"I think Hitler was a great man."

They're both irrational statements. Why might somebody like Hitler? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to national socialism and racial purity like a religion

Why do fans want to pick Joeckel? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand/they don't care enough to actually think about why this is a bad idea
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to True Fanism where the only acceptable options for a starting QB are training camp heroes and backups from other teams. Pretty much a religion.

They're both weak opinions. Ill-supported. Not logically sound. Stupid. They're both stupid opinions.

Sometimes people have opinions that disagree with mine, and sometimes those opinions are really ****ing stupid. People who think Hitler was a great man or that the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel have opinions that disagree with mine. Those also happen to be really ****ing stupid. It's not intellectually arrogant for me to dismiss them from conversations for spouting that kind of dumbass bullshit. Regardless of what I believe or not, those are two really stupid opinions.

Do you see how this works?

Yeah, I can see that. That post actually made me laugh.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369889)
"I think the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel."

"I think Hitler was a great man."

They're both irrational statements. Why might somebody like Hitler? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to national socialism and racial purity like a religion

Why do fans want to pick Joeckel? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand/they don't care enough to actually think about why this is a bad idea
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to True Fanism where the only acceptable options for a starting QB are training camp heroes and backups from other teams. Pretty much a religion.

They're both weak opinions. Ill-supported. Not logically sound. Stupid. They're both stupid opinions.

Sometimes people have opinions that disagree with mine, and sometimes those opinions are really ****ing stupid. People who think Hitler was a great man or that the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel have opinions that disagree with mine. Those also happen to be really ****ing stupid. It's not intellectually arrogant for me to dismiss them from conversations for spouting that kind of dumbass bullshit. Regardless of what I believe or not, those are two really stupid opinions.

Do you see how this works?

lol. Rape
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Cephalic Trauma 02-01-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9369937)
lol. Rape
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As you currently reside in "chocolate penii land", which is essentially saying you are surrounded by a lot of black penis, is that correct?

Fat Elvis 02-01-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9369889)
"I think the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel."

"I think Hitler was a great man."

They're both irrational statements. Why might somebody like Hitler? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to national socialism and racial purity like a religion

Why do fans want to pick Joeckel? Couple of possibilities:

1) They're undereducated and simply don't understand/they don't care enough to actually think about why this is a bad idea
2) They follow some bizarre devotion to True Fanism where the only acceptable options for a starting QB are training camp heroes and backups from other teams. Pretty much a religion.

They're both weak opinions. Ill-supported. Not logically sound. Stupid. They're both stupid opinions.

Sometimes people have opinions that disagree with mine, and sometimes those opinions are really ****ing stupid. People who think Hitler was a great man or that the Chiefs should take Luke Joeckel have opinions that disagree with mine. Those also happen to be really ****ing stupid. It's not intellectually arrogant for me to dismiss them from conversations for spouting that kind of dumbass bullshit. Regardless of what I believe or not, those are two really stupid opinions.

Do you see how this works?

Anytime anyone resorts to using Hitler in an analogy they've hit a new level of stupid.

RealSNR 02-01-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9369962)
Anytime anyone resorts to using Hitler in an analogy they've hit a new level of stupid.

That only works when you compare somebody's stance on an issue, political or otherwise, to that of Hitler's.

I'm in no way saying that people who want to draft Luke Joeckel have anything to do with Nazism.

the Talking Can 02-01-2013 10:52 AM

Clark on 810 right now w/ petro

the Talking Can 02-01-2013 10:53 AM

he said the focus the last week has been 'our FAs'...

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9369950)
As you currently reside in "chocolate penii land", which is essentially saying you are surrounded by a lot of black penis, is that correct?

not yet...but soon.
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RealSNR 02-01-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9369998)
not yet...but soon.
Posted via Mobile Device

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htismaqe 02-01-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9369996)
he said the focus the last week has been 'our FAs'...

Pretty obvious that he's WAY more hands-on than he used to be.

The Bad Guy 02-01-2013 11:04 AM

Clark Hunt on Geno Smith "Our guys missed seeing him in Mobile"

the Talking Can 02-01-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370025)
Pretty obvious that he's WAY more hands-on than he used to be.

yeah, I like hearing from him more often...and you can tell he's more relaxed each time, less pr...

the interview was mostly about lamar and the superbowl, but right at the end petro said, "we're going to be talking to Geno Smith soon, anything you'd like to say to him?"

Clark: "Yeah, tell him our guys missed him in Mobile..."

LMAO...it was funny, Clark's not a total stick in the mud

htismaqe 02-01-2013 11:18 AM

They missed seeing him in Mobile because the rest of the QBs made their ****ing eyes bleed...

Mr_Tomahawk 02-01-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9370035)
Clark Hunt on Geno Smith "Our guys missed seeing him in Mobile"

Eh, this could be good or bad for Geno...

htismaqe 02-01-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9370099)
Eh, this could be good or bad for Geno...

Or neither, like most of the stuff that gets said this time of year...

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2013 12:25 PM

i swear february is the most miserable month on this board.
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ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9369839)
TEBOW!

:spock:

ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9369862)
They sign Alex Smith before the draft you can kiss Geno Smith ass good bye. That is the biggest reason I am against Alex Smith and be pissed if we do sign him. Geno Smith doesn't need Alex Smith to "mentor" him. He needs to learn from the coaches of what they want him to do. The biggest thing he needs to do is play the & sooner he gets on the field the better.

The more people want Alex Smith for what ever reason here the more I HATE Alex Smith, not as a person, but as yet another reject fail of an attempt to sell us a crap of goods that is still crap.

Major Kill Buzz if A.Smith is brought to KC for QBOTF....I am hoping this FO is smarter than that

Titty Meat 02-01-2013 02:57 PM

It would be awesome to have Alex Smith and draft a qb. Anyone upset about that is a moron.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370749)
It would be awesome to have Alex Smith and draft a qb. Anyone upset about that is a moron.

It would be cool.

But it isn't gonna happen.

Alex Smith coming here means no QB #1.

ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370749)
It would be awesome to have Alex Smith and draft a qb. Anyone upset about that is a moron.

This is what I pretty much expect but the draft pick needs to be a promising prospect. KC has to fix the forever long QB problem. Doesn't matter if it is with number 1, UDFA, young Vet.....I don't care. Fix this on going issue

Titty Meat 02-01-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370773)
It would be cool.

But it isn't gonna happen.

Alex Smith coming here means no QB #1.

How do you know? Its already been pointed out Smith is a stop gap wherever he goes.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:05 PM

To those saying "look at the Seahawks, they did it"


No they really didn't. They signed the big free agent QB, then drafted a QB, in the 3rd round. Not first overall.

Different situation.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370778)
How do you know? Its already been pointed out Smith is a stop gap wherever he goes.

So why do we need a stop gap?


If we draft a guy at 1 overall, he better damn well start.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan (Post 9370731)
Major Kill Buzz if A.Smith is brought to KC for QBOTF....I am hoping this FO is smarter than that

Smith wouldn't be brought in to be QBOTF. Its not the Cassel situation all over, first Smith and Cassel are nothing alike as QBs, and second, Reid is not SP, and wouldn't hold on to Smith and start him without any competition. Reid would always look to improve through the draft. If Smith comes here I believe the Chiefs still draft a QB early.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370778)
How do you know? Its already been pointed out Smith is a stop gap wherever he goes.

He doesn't want to be a stopgap. He wants to start.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370780)
To those saying "look at the Seahawks, they did it"


No they really didn't. They signed the big free agent QB, then drafted a QB, in the 3rd round. Not first overall.

Different situation.

They signed a big free agent with ONE CAREER START.

Not analogous to Alex Smith in any way, shape, or form.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370787)
Smith wouldn't be brought in to be QBOTF. Its not the Cassel situation all over, first Smith and Cassel are nothing alike as QBs, and second, Reid is not SP, and wouldn't hold on to Smith and start him without any competition. Reid would always look to improve through the draft. If Smith comes here I believe the Chiefs still draft a QB early.

They aren't going to bring in or trade for a guy to play QB, then draft one at 1. At best, we would get a 2nd round QB, at a spot that has been shown to be a QB wasteland.

ncCHIEFfan 02-01-2013 03:08 PM

They signed what was available

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370787)
Smith wouldn't be brought in to be QBOTF. Its not the Cassel situation all over, first Smith and Cassel are nothing alike as QBs, and second, Reid is not SP, and wouldn't hold on to Smith and start him without any competition. Reid would always look to improve through the draft. If Smith comes here I believe the Chiefs still draft a QB early.

If Smith comes here, they might draft someone late.

If Smith comes here, he'll be the starter.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370793)
They aren't going to bring in or trade for a guy to play QB, then draft one at 1. At best, we would get a 2nd round QB, at a spot that has been shown to be a QB wasteland.

It has?

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370793)
They aren't going to bring in or trade for a guy to play QB, then draft one at 1. At best, we would get a 2nd round QB, at a spot that has been shown to be a QB wasteland.

This.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370797)
It has?

About 20% of 2nd round QBs become full-time starters.

Andy Dalton is the exception, not the rule.

And his ceiling is high-end game manager.

I can't believe people would actually WANT that.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370796)
If Smith comes here, they might draft someone late.

If Smith comes here, he'll be the starter.

I'm going by Reid's history, he's always drafted and developed QBs. I don't expect that to stop even with Smith.

Titty Meat 02-01-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370784)
So why do we need a stop gap?


If we draft a guy at 1 overall, he better damn well start.

Why should he start day 1 if hes not ready?

Messier 02-01-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370802)
About 20% of 2nd round QBs become full-time starters.

Andy Dalton is the exception, not the rule.

And his ceiling is high-end game manager.

I can't believe people would actually WANT that.

There's. A second round pick starting the super bowl.

FloridaMan88 02-01-2013 03:14 PM

If Alex Smith wants to come to KC to back-up Geno Smith and the Chiefs have to give up nothing to get him and can sign him to a reasonable contract...then fine... go for it... bring Alex Smith to KC.

I doubt any of that will happen which is why I don't want Alex Smith in KC.

O.city 02-01-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9370812)
Why should he start day 1 if hes not ready?

These days, when are guys not ready day 1? I'd rather him learn on the job than sit for a year, then have the learning curve next year.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:14 PM

Alex Smith: Comp. Att. %. Yards. Avg. TD. INT
1,290 2,177 59.3 14,280 6.6 81 63

Matt Cassel: Comp. Att. %. Yards. Avg. TD. INT
1,203 2,044 58.9 13,495 6.6 82 57

O.city 02-01-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370814)
There's. A second round pick starting the super bowl.

And there is a 6th rounder who's likely the best of all time. It's an abberation. There is also a first rounder starting the SB.


Enough with this "look at this team's 3rd rounder he's good, we can get one there". Yeah we can, but it's all about percentages, which show the best place to get a QB, or atleast the best chance to get a successful QB comes in the first round.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370814)
There's. A second round pick starting the super bowl.

Congrats, you found the exception to the rule.

Do you stick your fingers in light sockets because the first time you did it, it didn't kill you?

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9370817)
Alex Smith: Comp. Att. %. Yards. Avg. TD. INT
1,290 2,177 59.3 14,280 6.6 81 63

Matt Cassel: Comp. Att. %. Yards. Avg. TD. INT
1,203 2,044 58.9 13,495 6.6 82 57

With these career stats alone should prove that smith is no better than cassel. I would rather restructure cassel and keep him here and let andy work with him then spend ANYTHING or anymore money on alex smith. If people think you bring in alex smith to be a stop gap or to compete with #1 pick whichever QB it is then why not keep what we have, pay him less since he knows he's either getting cut or taking a huge paycut anyways and let reid work with him.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370810)
I'm going by Reid's history, he's always drafted and developed QBs. I don't expect that to stop even with Smith.

There's a difference between drafting a QB 1-1 and drafting a QB 4-1.

Alex Smith and QB #1 overall are mutually exclusive.

Setsuna 02-01-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9370802)
About 20% of 2nd round QBs become full-time starters.

Andy Dalton is the exception, not the rule.

And his ceiling is high-end game manager.

I can't believe people would actually WANT that.

Jags fans. Everything you know of or expect from a true a fan, that's the Jags fanbase. Straight sickening.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9370815)
If Alex Smith wants to come to KC to back-up Geno Smith and the Chiefs have to give up nothing to get him and can sign him to a reasonable contract...then fine... go for it... bring Alex Smith to KC.

I doubt any of that will happen which is why I don't want Alex Smith in KC.

This.

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370816)
These days, when are guys not ready day 1?

Exactly.

Messier 02-01-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9370817)
Alex Smith: Comp. Att. %. Yards. Avg. TD. INT
1,290 2,177 59.3 14,280 6.6 81 63

Matt Cassel: Comp. Att. %. Yards. Avg. TD. INT
1,203 2,044 58.9 13,495 6.6 82 57

interesting. Have you seen them play? Smith is better.

go bo 02-01-2013 03:20 PM

to get ready quicker, that's why...

htismaqe 02-01-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370834)
interesting. Have you seen them play? Smith is better.

Better than bad does not equal good.

fairladyZ 02-01-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370834)
interesting. Have you seen them play? Smith is better.

I have.. I've seen smith suck donkey balls with shitty coaching, i've seen smith be a good game manager with great coaching.

i've seen cassel suck donkey balls with horrendous coaching, i've seen cassel be a good game manager with great coaching.

your point?

O.city 02-01-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9370834)
interesting. Have you seen them play? Smith is better.

Better doesn't always equal good.

Coogs 02-01-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9370842)
Better doesn't always equal good.


I heard that somewhere once.


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