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DaWolf 01-11-2013 01:02 AM

Report: Chiefs to interview Jets LB coach/assistant HC Bob Sutton for DC...
 
Quote:

The Daily News has learned that the Chiefs requested permission to interview assistant head coach/linebackers Bob Sutton for a position on Andy Reid's staff. It’s unclear whether Ryan granted permission or whether Sutton has gone on his interview.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz2HeEHnHnc

Wonder if they're looking at him for DC...

Edit: this just in

Quote:

@MMehtaNYDN: Heard last night that Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton. Now, I'm hearing Sutton will be Chiefs defensive coordinator #nyj

SPchief 01-11-2013 01:04 AM

Well that would be confusing at the STAR if he get's hired

Cosmos 01-11-2013 01:24 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ticle-1.355783

booger 01-11-2013 02:20 AM

http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop

Kansas City Chiefs: Sources tell us the Chiefs have requested permission to interview New York Jets linebackers coach Bob Sutton for their defensive coordinator position.

wazu 01-11-2013 02:26 AM

This isn't blowing my skirt up.

beach tribe 01-11-2013 05:51 AM

Stayin with the 3-4 baby.

ChiefMojo 01-11-2013 06:10 AM

Regardless of what one thinks of Sutton, the dude has made it through FOUR different Jets head coaches in a row!!!! lol Here is a article talking about him being there for quite a long time.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/...tsges6UoyeXHaM

Was also the head coach of Army at one time where he was actually the Bobby Dodd National Coach of the Year after posting a 10-2 record.

He may be a good fit as on the defensive side of the ball we did retain Gibbs and Thomas already.

http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...4-40f229690cfb

Sassy Squatch 01-11-2013 06:12 AM

Wow. Pretty impressive.

TRR 01-11-2013 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9304840)
Regardless of what one thinks of Sutton, the dude has made it through FOUR different Jets head coaches in a row!!!! lol Here is a article talking about him being there for quite a long time.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/...tsges6UoyeXHaM

Was also the head coach of Army at one time where he was actually the Bobby Dodd National Coach of the Year after posting a 10-2 record.

He may be a good fit as on the defensive side of the ball we did retain Gibbs and Thomas already.

http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...4-40f229690cfb

I know the Gibbs/Thomas retainer was reported however I have never seen anything official on it.
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ChiefMojo 01-11-2013 06:33 AM

I don't think it has been officially announced about any assistants yet sounds like a done deal from many people close to the Chiefs.

the Talking Can 01-11-2013 07:09 AM

no clue

Mother****erJones 01-11-2013 07:29 AM

Heard last night that Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton. Now, I'm hearing Sutton will be Chiefs defensive coordinator #nyj

DaWolf 01-11-2013 07:29 AM

@MMehtaNYDN: Heard last night that Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton. Now, I'm hearing Sutton will be Chiefs defensive coordinator #nyj

Dartgod 01-11-2013 07:41 AM

Hey gang,

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I heard last night that Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton. Now, I'm hearing Sutton will be Chiefs defensive coordinator.

Mother****erJones 01-11-2013 07:47 AM

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl
Likely means KC will keep 3-4. MT @MMehtaNYDN: From today's @NYDailyNews: Now hearing Sutton to be Chiefs DC http://nydn.us/VP2yj8
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ChiefMojo 01-11-2013 07:55 AM

Definitely 3-4 as he is probably considered a Groh protege. Ran the 3-4 as the DC for the Jets.

TheGuardian 01-11-2013 07:55 AM

Drinking my morning coffee and my dog told me he heard last night that Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton. Now, I'm hearing Sutton will be Chiefs defensive coordinator.

ncCHIEFfan 01-11-2013 07:57 AM

Could be worse

KCwolf 01-11-2013 08:08 AM

So do you think it's possible that the Chiefs requested permission to interview Bob Sutton and he will be the new Chiefs defensive coordinator?

WildTurkey 01-11-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9304907)
Definitely 3-4 as he is probably considered a Groh protege. Ran the 3-4 as the DC for the Jets.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/11/u3u6y4aj.jpg

htismaqe 01-11-2013 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9304907)
Definitely 3-4 as he is probably considered a Groh protege. Ran the 3-4 as the DC for the Jets.

Yep. His background appears to be largely 1-gap 3-4.

cyborgtable 01-11-2013 08:12 AM

Good for you guys, you have the talent to runs Rex's scheme much better than we do.

The Bad Guy 01-11-2013 08:20 AM

Yep. It's Sutton and I don't know what to make of it.

They wanted Kiffin but were rebuffed. Horton's not going to get out of his AZ contract and they never got a chance to talk to Petine.

htismaqe 01-11-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9304820)
This isn't blowing my skirt up.

It isn't?

Would you rather move to a 4-3 or worse yet, move completely to a Tampa 2?

htismaqe 01-11-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9304953)
Yep. It's Sutton and I don't know what to make of it.

They wanted Kiffin but were rebuffed. Horton's not going to get out of his AZ contract and they never got a chance to talk to Petine.

See my previous post.

the Talking Can 01-11-2013 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9304940)
Yep. His background appears to be largely 1-gap 3-4.

good

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-11-2013 08:22 AM

At least we get a 1 gap 3-4.

The Bad Guy 01-11-2013 08:23 AM

Don't be surprised if Rex hires Rob to be his assistant HC/linebackers coach now.

notorious 01-11-2013 08:26 AM

The Jets were a pretty aggressive defense.

I like it.

the Talking Can 01-11-2013 08:26 AM

shit, people have been pining for this since peehole arrived...

don't know anything about sutton, but will be interesting to see how our chronically under performing DL responds

ChiefMojo 01-11-2013 08:29 AM

I'm very happy that we will be moving to a 1-gap 3-4!

notorious 01-11-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9304978)
shit, people have been pining for this since peehole arrived...

don't know anything about sutton, but will be interesting to see how our chronically under performing DL responds



It's amazing how much better the current personnel is when they are attacking vs. Crenneling.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-11-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9304967)
Don't be surprised if Rex hires Rob to be his assistant HC/linebackers coach now.

Yeah the New york reporters are saying the same thing.

cyborgtable 01-11-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9304967)
Don't be surprised if Rex hires Rob to be his assistant HC/linebackers coach now.

Its been reported that the Jets are promoting Dennis Thurman, which is good because I really don't want Rob here in any capacity

The Bad Guy 01-11-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyborgtable (Post 9304990)
Its been reported that the Jets are promoting Dennis Thurman, which is good because I really don't want Rob here in any capacity

Yes, he's going to be the DC, but now you need a linebackers coach.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-11-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyborgtable (Post 9304990)
Its been reported that the Jets are promoting Dennis Thurman, which is good because I really don't want Rob here in any capacity

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN

From today's @NYDailyNews: Rex Ryan could bring in Rob if Bob Sutton goes to Chiefs. Now hearing Sutton to be Chiefs DC http://nydn.us/VP2yj8

cyborgtable 01-11-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9304992)
Yes, he's going to be the DC, but now you need a linebackers coach.

And thankfully Rob will want to be a DC somewhere and some team will take him in that capacity. IDK what we are going to do about our linebacker coach but I'm more nervous about getting the right GM

tomahawk kid 01-11-2013 08:45 AM

So, this is good?

Never heard of the guy.

BigMeatballDave 01-11-2013 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9304992)
Yes, he's going to be the DC, but now you need a linebackers coach.

Wasn't Gibbs retained?

EDIT: Nevermind, misread...

ChiefMojo 01-11-2013 08:47 AM

Only time will tell but he has DC experience, college head coach experience and runs the type of 3-4 the fans want... 1-gap system.

Dave I think he was talking about the Jets needing a LB coach now.

tomahawk kid 01-11-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9305031)
Only time will tell but he has DC experience, college head coach experience and runs the type of 3-4 the fans want... 1-gap system.

Dave I think he was talking about the Jets needing a LB coach now.

Where was he a DC previously?

ChiefMojo 01-11-2013 08:52 AM

He was Mangini's DC at the Jets.

Canofbier 01-11-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9304953)
Yep. It's Sutton and I don't know what to make of it.

They wanted Kiffin but were rebuffed. Horton's not going to get out of his AZ contract and they never got a chance to talk to Petine.

Interesting hire, if not a flashy one. Thanks for the update, TBG! Here are the Jets' defensive rankings by year for the period where Sutton was DC:

2006: 18.4 PPG (6th), 331.6 YPG (20th)
2007: 22.2 PPG (19th) 331.9 YPG (18th)
2008: 22.3 PPG (18th) 329.4 YPG (16th)

With the exception of the PPG ranking in 2006, the guy didn't exactly coordinate world-class defense in NY during his tenure there. I'm sure that there are other factors that led to these stats (poor coaching from the top, for instance), but I'd like the hire more if he'd already shown some success in the past. It's not as if he's going to get much in the way of support or direction from Reid, but I can't decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Time will tell!

htismaqe 01-11-2013 08:53 AM

The guys on the Border Patrol are bumming about this.

They REALLY wanted a 4-3 defense.

I just don't get it.

htismaqe 01-11-2013 08:54 AM

Jake gets it.

notorious 01-11-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 9305044)
Interesting hire, if not a flashy one. Thanks for the update, TBG! Here are the Jets' defensive rankings by year for the period where Sutton was DC:

2006: 18.4 PPG (6th), 331.6 YPG (20th)
2007: 22.2 PPG (19th) 331.9 YPG (18th)
2008: 22.3 PPG (18th) 329.4 YPG (16th)

Plus, their offense has been shit for a long time. The defense was on the field a lot.(sounds familiar).

Mother****erJones 01-11-2013 08:57 AM

Just glad were keeping 34 and going to 1 gap. Kudos to Andy for not forcing his all his philosophies on us like egoli

BigMeatballDave 01-11-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9305045)
The guys on the Border Patrol are bumming about this.

They REALLY wanted a 4-3 defense.

I just don't get it.

Neither do I. Doesn't make sense to change it.

Like 4 yrs ago when ****stick forced a square peg into a round hole.

We obviously have much smarter people in place now.

Molitoth 01-11-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9305045)
The guys on the Border Patrol are bumming about this.

They REALLY wanted a 4-3 defense.

I just don't get it.

Yeah, they also think this means Dorsey walks....


Who fucking cares. I mean it sucks losing that high of a draft pick, but it also sucks trotting him out there just to "take up blockers".

htismaqe 01-11-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9305063)
Yeah, they also think this means Dorsey walks....


Who ****ing cares. I mean it sucks losing that high of a draft pick, but it also sucks trotting him out there just to "take up blockers".

Yeah.

I don't get the hand wringing over losing Glen Dorsey. I HOPE he's cut.

HemiEd 01-11-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9304959)
It isn't?

Would you rather move to a 4-3 or worse yet, move completely to a Tampa 2?

Exactly, I think this is a very good thing.

the Talking Can 01-11-2013 09:05 AM

rapetitty can do anything dorsey does in a 1 gap....for pennies

BigMeatballDave 01-11-2013 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9304940)
Yep. His background appears to be largely 1-gap 3-4.

Ooo, I like that

Messier 01-11-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9305063)
Yeah, they also think this means Dorsey walks....


Who ****ing cares. I mean it sucks losing that high of a draft pick, but it also sucks trotting him out there just to "take up blockers".

They all had this idea that Dorsey would turn into an all pro as a 4-3 DT, but I think they're wrong.the morning guys on 810 are fun, but don't seem to know much.

KurtCobain 01-11-2013 09:09 AM

Did somebody say RapeTitty?

tomahawk kid 01-11-2013 09:09 AM

I'll show my ignorance.

What version of the 3-4 have we been running previously under Romeo?

I'm assuming not a one gap.......

Chiefs24-7 01-11-2013 09:11 AM

avoid vick
sign tebow
win games

the Talking Can 01-11-2013 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 9305092)
I'll show my ignorance.

What version of the 3-4 have we been running previously under Romeo?

I'm assuming not a one gap.......

we ran a 2 gap

moving to 1 gap

i googled it too

http://www.scardraft.com/Phillips34.html

tmw4h5 01-11-2013 09:19 AM

per KC Star -

Posted on Fri, Jan. 11, 2013
Chiefs reportedly hire new coordinators


The Chiefs reportedly have hired Bob Sutton as their new defensive coordinator and Doug Pederson as their new offensive coordinator.

The 61-year-old Sutton has spent the last 13 seasons with the New York Jets, 10 as linebackers coach.

He was the Jets’ defensive coordinator from 2006 through 2008.

Before joining the Jets, he was the head coach for nine seasons at Army, where he had a record of 44-

55-1.

Pederson, 44, was an NFL quarterback for 12 seasons and has been an offensive assistant with Andy Reid and the Philadelphia Eagles for the past four

years.

| Adam Teicher, ateicher@kcstar.com

CaliforniaChief 01-11-2013 09:21 AM

Staying with the 3-4 and getting someone we haven't heard of as opposed to bringing in a 4-3 guy we all know makes me a lot happier.

The strength of this team is its line backing corps. The 3-4 is the best system to run for teams with good line backers.

If true, it would say a lot to me about Andy Reid and how he understands how to build around the best players you have, as opposed to forcing the system he is comfortable with.

BigMeatballDave 01-11-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs24-7 (Post 9305098)
avoid vick
sign tebow
win games

Eat shit

1ChiefsDan 01-11-2013 09:23 AM

Bill Maas was on 610 this morning still saying we are going to get Lovie, even after this stuff was coming out.

Does this guy know anything other than blow, guns and hookers?

tomahawk kid 01-11-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9305102)
we ran a 2 gap

moving to 1 gap

i googled it too

http://www.scardraft.com/Phillips34.html

So I assume that the 1 gap is a more aggressive, attacking D whereas the 2 gap is more read and react?

DTLB58 01-11-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9305043)
He was Mangini's DC at the Jets.

I would rather have Mangini. And since we are this close to this D, Maybe they contacted him, but he wants to stay in the studio (cush job) or is waiting for another HC job.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-11-2013 09:28 AM

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride

1 report says it's happening RT @janesports Kansas City has been given permission to interview Jets asst. coach Bob Sutton. #Jets #NFL

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 09:28 AM

As I previously missed this thread, I'm just going to repost myself from the other 'staff' thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9305133)
Meh - Sutton.

Mediocre at best in NYJ when he was the DC, no better when he was the LB coach and a clear 3-4 candidate.

I was really hoping for a 4-3 guy with an actual track record of sustained success.

Sutton doesn't appear likely to bring anything to the table. He may not take anything off it (hard to say), but he sure doesn't look like a guy that's going to give you anything more than you already have. He's essentially the DC version of a game managing QB.


the Talking Can 01-11-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 9305126)
So I assume that the 1 gap is a more aggressive, attacking D whereas the 2 gap is more read and react?

yup, basically...

CaliforniaChief 01-11-2013 09:36 AM

So he's interviewing, got the job, and now is interviewing again?

Chiefs=Champions 01-11-2013 09:39 AM

One problem i have with this is whether or not Houston will be underutilized in this scheme. I know the one gap asks the weakside backer to rush a majority of the time, yet asks the strongside to cover a lot. This does change in the nickle package, but i wonder if it means well try and recruit someone else to play there on first and second down..

BigMeatballDave 01-11-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9305139)
As I previously missed this thread, I'm just going to repost myself from the other 'staff' thread:

So, switching the D to a more attacking style does not excite you in the least?

We should get more production out of Houston. Fewer drops into coverage.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9305186)
So, switching the D to a more attacking style does not excite you in the least?

We should get more production out of Houston. Fewer drops into coverage.

There was never a question that we were doing away with the 2-gap, IMO. Nobody outside of the Patriots tree really runs that tripe anymore.

The 1-gap is going to require a couple of personnel changes anyway, so I'd have just as soon gone wholesale and made the conversion to the 4-3. That or I'd have preferred to see a 3-4 coordinator that actually had success with the 3-4.

This guy has Dabol's resume.

Chiefs=Champions 01-11-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9305186)
So, switching the D to a more attacking style does not excite you in the least?

We should get more production out of Houston. Fewer drops into coverage.

"The strongside OLB is in charge of the C-gap and the outside in the run game and is used in man coverage over 80% of the time on the TE"

http://www.scardraft.com/RyanHybrid46.html

I think you'll find Houston will be asked to drop a lot.

cyborgtable 01-11-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 9305210)
"The strongside OLB is in charge of the C-gap and the outside in the run game and is used in man coverage over 80% of the time on the TE"

http://www.scardraft.com/RyanHybrid46.html

I think you'll find Houston will be asked to drop a lot.

True on the scheme but that was because of the talent he had in Baltimore and the comparative lack of talent in New York. If he takes the scheme verbatim and doesn't change it to the talent then he would suck regardless of scheme he runs. Houston should be fine, worst case is he moves his position to match

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 9305210)
"The strongside OLB is in charge of the C-gap and the outside in the run game and is used in man coverage over 80% of the time on the TE"

http://www.scardraft.com/RyanHybrid46.html

I think you'll find Houston will be asked to drop a lot.

With a 1-gap, I almost wonder if Hali shouldn't be moved to DE and Houston switched over to the Will.

(Or maybe we should've just gone to a 4-3 anyway with Hali and Houston on the line and Poe kicking ass as an under-tackle....{grumblegrumble}

htismaqe 01-11-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9305139)
As I previously missed this thread, I'm just going to repost myself from the other 'staff' thread:

This is INFINITELY better than Kiffin or Smith bringing in the Tampa 2.

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9305254)
This is INFINITELY better than Kiffin or Smith bringing in the Tampa 2.

Yeah, not a fan of the Tampa 2.

I just want to caution folks against going Full-Haley on this one. I got blitzed when I said I didn't like the Haley hire and everyone was in full Pioli nut-hugger mode. People were blindly supporting the hire and making up the bullshit narrative (now proven, in fact) that this was Pioli's guy all along instead of the moldy leftovers he got stuck with.

It's an underwhelming hire at best. It's not the worst he could've done, but I'm still not a fan of it.

BigMeatballDave 01-11-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9305273)

It's an underwhelming hire at best. It's not the worst he could've done, but I'm still not a fan of it.

I'm open-minded about it. There just were not a lot of options out there.

King_Chief_Fan 01-11-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9305254)
This is INFINITELY better than Kiffin or Smith bringing in the Tampa 2.

ding!


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