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pr_capone 06-20-2013 06:08 PM

Car people of CP... I need a new car.
 
My Focus SVT's transmission just bit the dust and I am tired of putting money into this damn car. Gonna buy a new one and drive that ****er off the lot.

I would prefer a 2 door car. Hatch is a plus.
I need the car to be sporty/fast as I do autocross.
Manual gearbox.
Around 25k to spend or so.
No GM products.

Suggestions?

Rain Man 06-20-2013 06:09 PM

DeLorean. It meets every requirement you have.

http://www.fastcoexist.com/multisite...an-ev-main.jpg

pr_capone 06-20-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9765526)
DeLorean. It meets every requirement you have.

If I can find one with a working Mr. Fusion... I'll buy it. That said, non fusion powered DeLorean's are slow as snails.

LoneWolf 06-20-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9765526)
DeLorean. It meets every requirement you have.

http://www.fastcoexist.com/multisite...an-ev-main.jpg

He could never go over 88 when doing auto cross. Unless he really wants to go to prom with his mother.

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9765524)
My Focus SVT's transmission just bit the dust and I am tired of putting money into this damn car. Gonna buy a new one and drive that ****er off the lot.

I would prefer a 2 door car. Hatch is a plus.
I need the car to be sporty/fast as I do autocross.
Manual gearbox.
Around 25k to spend or so.
No GM products.

Suggestions?

Well GM and manual throw out the cool ass turbo Buick regal two door.
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Rain Man 06-20-2013 06:13 PM

Bricklin could work, too, I guess.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...cyyeo1_500.jpg

pr_capone 06-20-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765531)
Well GM and manual throw out the cool ass turbo Buick regal two door.
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Even then, the Turbo version starts at 32k.

lewdog 06-20-2013 06:17 PM

Subaru BRZ? Roughly 25k.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadte...RZ-cockpit.jpg

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-...3subarubrz.jpg

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9765534)
Even then, the Turbo version starts at 32k.

Yeah maybe a little high...


But they DO MAKE IT IN A MANUAL. Lol google the gsx and look at the mule car. It could look bad ass
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El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765531)
Well GM and manual throw out the cool ass turbo Buick regal two door.
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Got a customer that just bought one, 6 speed manual. :drool:

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765536)
Yeah maybe a little high...


But they DO MAKE IT IN A MANUAL. Lol google the gsx and look at the mule car. It could look bad ass
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70'S GSX's are worth over 6 figures if numbers matching and in good shape. Freakin sweet rides, would love to have one.

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765542)
Got a customer that just bought one, 6 speed manual. :drool:

I've got a couple of people that have them. All old guys all friends. They go on trips the stories are hilarious.

But they are a pretty preppy car.
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El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:23 PM

I know you said no GM, but the Pontiac GTO's are some seriously fast cars, love em.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:23 PM

Golf GTI?

I have the regular 2.5 but wanted a GTI badly. Fun as shit to drive

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:23 PM

And I wish one had bought a six speed. I'm definitely giving them all shit over it
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Sfeihc 06-20-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9765535)

This or the Scion FR-S. Same car, joint venture.

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765547)
I know you said no GM, but the Pontiac GTO's are some seriously fast cars, love em.

they still make them?
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El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765546)
I've got a couple of people that have them. All old guys all friends. They go on trips the stories are hilarious.

But they are a pretty preppy car.
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4cylinder turbo, my customer claims to have had it up to 130 easily.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765547)
I know you said no GM, but the Pontiac GTO's are some seriously fast cars, love em.

Those are on my list of used muscle cars I'd like to have

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765551)
they still make them?
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Woops, missed the "new" part.

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765552)
4cylinder turbo, my customer claims to have had it up to 130 easily.

Yep. They all got turbo's. My wife wants one
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El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765553)
Those are on my list of used muscle cars I'd like to have

They have nice interiors, bitchin exhausts, and they straight haul ass.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765555)
Yep. They all got turbo's. My wife wants one
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Seriously? Mine too lol.



OK, name your favorite dinosaur?

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:27 PM

And I've driven them. They are pretty fun. People usually aren't shy about letting me drive their cars lol. Hell some have even let me drive their cars after riding in mine with me. Lol
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lewdog 06-20-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 9765550)
This or the Scion FR-S. Same car, joint venture.

I want the BRZ but my fiance says I need to be practical (no coupes) while still having sporty if I choose, on my next car purchase. She is kind of right but it really narrows the sporty to only a few choices. :hmmm:

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:28 PM

Yep. I like the G8s as well. Forget the trim package but the beefy ones are bad ass.

Or just find a used CTSV. Mmmmmmmmm

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765561)
Yep. I like the G8s as well. Forget the trim package but the beefy ones are bad ass.

Or just find a used CTSV. Mmmmmmmmm

If you can find one with low mileage, most of them are beat to hell, and that transmission will cost you a testicle to fix.

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:29 PM

Bambiraptor
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TrebMaxx 06-20-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 9765550)
This or the Scion FR-S. Same car, joint venture.

Exactly what I was going to suggest. 200 hp, right around $25,000.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765565)
If you can find one with low mileage, most of them are beat to hell, and that transmission will cost you a testicle to fix.

:hmmm:

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765565)
If you can find one with low mileage, most of them are beat to hell, and that transmission will cost you a testicle to fix.

Don't they have an issue with throwing the cooler line at the radiator?
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Rain Man 06-20-2013 06:30 PM

Hemmings is a great source of cars in your price range.

Here's a 1971 Corvette: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...e/1580445.html

1948 MGTC: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...c/1580201.html

1956 Thunderbird, kind of. http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...d/1579909.html

1977 Rolls Royce Silver Wraith: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...i/1579908.html

1956 Chevrolet Bel Air that's almost apricot: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...r/1579899.html

1959 Triumph TR-3 (very cool - I might buy this one myself): http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...d/1579644.html

1981 Corvette: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...e/1579278.html

1999 Porsche Carrera (this seems cheap, so maybe it's stolen): http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...1/1579264.html

1959 Cadillac Sedan de Ville: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...e/1579157.html

1960 Austin Healey Bugeye: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...e/1579077.html

2005 Porsche Boxter: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...r/1578885.html

1991 Lotus Elan: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...n/1578389.html

1981 Pontiac Trans Am: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...m/1578218.html

1948 Triumph 1800 Roadster: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...0/1578201.html

1965 Ford Mustang Fastback: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...g/1578142.html

1968 Chevy Camaro Convertible: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...o/1578002.html

1966 Sunbeam Alpine: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...e/1575430.html

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765566)
Philosoraptor
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Did we just become best friends?

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765572)
Did we just become best friends?

Someone beat you to it last night.
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El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765570)
Don't they have an issue with throwing the cooler line at the radiator?
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Spot on, we have fixed a slew of those around our area. Very popular for people to pick up used for 40-50k and look like a Boss for two weeks and either burn the clutch up, or run the auto's low on fluid.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765573)
Someone beat you to it last night.
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Stepbrothers, funny stuff.

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:32 PM

I've heard just go with a cooler and bypass the radiator itself
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Dayze 06-20-2013 06:32 PM

I forget the models, but I saw a two door hatched Subie that was fast as shit.

And a Golf that was some designator....not this usual TDI etc. can't remember, but also fast as shit.

hometeam 06-20-2013 06:33 PM

Genesis Coupe or get an no-sti WRX Hatch. Yes its 4 doors, but they are super easy to mod and rock autocross, especially with coilovers.

Don't listen to anyone telling you to pick a FWD drive car.

I like some of the others picks, but you said NEW car.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765578)
I've heard just go with a cooler and bypass the radiator itself
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If you have a customer with one. Sell them a Tru-Cool 22,000lb cooler, charge them a couple hours, put it on the front of the radiator, run the lines to it, and you will save them tons of money.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9765580)
Genesis Coupe or get an no-sti WRX Hatch. Yes its 4 doors, but they are super easy to mod and rock autocross, especially with coilovers.

Don't listen to anyone telling you to pick a FWD drive car.

I like some of the others picks, but you said NEW car.

Those genesis coupes look hotter than Madonna in a pointy bra (Fresh prince).

pr_capone 06-20-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9765580)
Genesis Coupe or get an no-sti WRX Hatch. Yes its 4 doors, but they are super easy to mod and rock autocross, especially with coilovers.

Don't listen to anyone telling you to pick a FWD drive car.

I like some of the others picks, but you said NEW car.

I thought about the Genesis Coupe but the V6 version costs 30k. Whatever car I'm buying... its gonna have the biggest engine available to throw into it. lol

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9765585)
I thought about the Genesis Coupe but the V6 version costs 25k. Whatever car I'm buying... its gonna have the biggest engine available to throw into it. lol

How much wiggle room do we have on this 25k?

SAUTO 06-20-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765583)
If you have a customer with one. Sell them a Tru-Cool 22,000lb cooler, charge them a couple hours, put it on the front of the radiator, run the lines to it, and you will save them tons of money.

Doing it Monday. Lol

Read about it a couple Weeks ago. Told them today
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vailpass 06-20-2013 06:38 PM

Subaru Impreza

pr_capone 06-20-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765591)
How much wiggle room do we have on this 25k?

Sorry, the V6 is 30k.

Not a whole lotta wiggle on the 25k. I'm expecting to get around 2500-3k for my car in its current condition. I'd like then end price to be at or below 25k.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:38 PM

300z? Probably used though.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9765592)
Doing it Monday. Lol

Read about it a couple Weeks ago. Told them today
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What kind of cooler?

Buns 06-20-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765579)
I forget the models, but I saw a two door hatched Subie that was fast as shit.

And a Golf that was some designator....not this usual TDI etc. can't remember, but also fast as shit.

VW R32

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9765595)
Sorry, the V6 is 30k.

Not a whole lotta wiggle on the 25k. I'm expecting to get around 2500-3k for my car in its current condition. I'd like then end price to be at or below 25k.

Makes it tough, but I will do some thinking.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:41 PM

Get a Civic with a fart can and some scary transformer stickers.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 9765604)
VW R32

You have one?

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 9765604)
VW R32

:D:clap:
Yeo, that's it.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765606)
Get a Civic with a fart can and some scary transformer stickers.



What is the deal with those stickers?

Buns 06-20-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765607)
You have one?

Nope, but I hear they're quick.

I would throw a vote in for Honda CR-Z, but i don't think it's much of a racer.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765611)
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What is the deal with those stickers?

Dunno. But I heard it makes them faster.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 9765613)
Nope, but I hear they're quick.

I would throw a vote in for Honda CR-Z, but i don't think it's much of a racer.

I was going to see how you liked it. CR-Z isn't a bad way to go.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:45 PM

R32 I tink is around 270hp v6. Something like that.

Low miles ones can be had for probably 20kish I would think

BigBeauford 06-20-2013 06:46 PM

Gti
Fiesta ST
Focus St

Probably the top 3 I would go for considering your criteria, I believe all have been on Car and Drivers 10 best (possibly not the Fiesta, but most are raving about the new ST.)

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765614)
Dunno. But I heard it makes them faster.

5-7 horse power per sticker is what a Jegs employee told me (off the clock of course). So if you get a K&N filter (good for 75 horses) and then had a handful of those stickers you are talking about 100 extra horses! Bad ass!

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbsacker93 (Post 9765619)
Gti
Fiesta ST
Focus St

Probably the top 3 I would go for considering your criteria, I believe all have been on Car and Drivers 10 best (possibly not the Fiesta, but most are raving about the new ST.)

Fiesta is bleh to me, ST not so much.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:47 PM

Drop 20 k on a used one and buy a pro charger blower. My brother is the lead machinist and has been there since day one. :D

Now THAT would be fun.

hometeam 06-20-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9765585)
I thought about the Genesis Coupe but the V6 version costs 30k. Whatever car I'm buying... its gonna have the biggest engine available to throw into it. lol

That v6 is basically unmoddable and expensive.

That 2.0 TURBO needs just a little massaging and it could be a firebreathing monster, capable of sub 12 second quarter mile times and blistering fast laps around a track.

Or, do like I said and gut that WRX. My WRX made 362 WHEEL horsepower (something like 450 for you factory HP types) with just a little baby 2.0 turbo motor. And no, that's not a wind up toy Honda, this made that power at 4k rpms and held it and 300+ foot pounds of torque across redline.

Now they make even more HP and torque with same mods, because they are all packing the 2.5 liter.

For the LOVE of god dont pick a FWD car

BigBeauford 06-20-2013 06:48 PM

CRZ takes about 9-10 seconds 0-60, blah suspension and Chasis, and only 2 seats. Boring to drive hybrid that just looks like it has sporting pretensions.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9765620)
5-7 horse power per sticker is what a Jegs employee told me (off the clock of course). So if you get a K&N filter (good for 75 horses) and then had a handful of those stickers you are talking about 100 extra horses! Bad ass!

Good luck scoring a NoS sticker. Probably would wreck it anyway with all the power to the ground anyway.

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765627)
Good luck scoring a NoS sticker. Probably would wreck it anyway with all the power to the ground anyway.

I like the cut of your jib.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9765625)
That v6 is basically unmoddable and expensive.

That 2.0 TURBO needs just a little massaging and it could be a firebreathing monster, capable of sub 12 second quarter mile times and blistering fast laps around a track.

Or, do like I said and gut that WRX. My WRX made 362 WHEEL horsepower (something like 450 for you factory HP types) with just a little baby 2.0 turbo motor. And no, that's not a wind up toy Honda, this made that power at 4k rpms and held it and 300+ foot pounds of torque across redline.

Now they make even more HP and torque with same mods, because they are all packing the 2.5 liter.

For the LOVE of god dont pick a FWD car

:eek:
Shit dude. Makes me want to ditch my ride and get one lol. I need to get the hell out of this thread,

hometeam 06-20-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765633)
:eek:
Shit dude.

I'm a car guy~

BigBeauford 06-20-2013 06:53 PM

Dude, if you can survive a little longer, VW, is about to roll out the latest generation GTI, which for all intents and purposes is an Audi A3. It looks stunning and cranks out even more power, and has the best combo of chasis/suspension they have made yet.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:53 PM

For what PR wants to do that torque number would be obscene.

Love me some torque

El Jefe 06-20-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9765638)
For what PR wants to do that torque number would be obscene.

Love me some torque

My Cutlass is no 1000hp monster, but im around ~500 and I can put a dollar bill on the dash, and I will say if you can grab it before I get into 3rd you can have it (pretty funny). That baby cranks out some G's.

Dayze 06-20-2013 06:58 PM

When my brother was running his blower with drag radials, I remember my vision going into a gray out sort of thing under hard acceleration.

Sleeper car to.....except for the whine of the blower. Buwwhhaaaaaa

hometeam 06-20-2013 07:01 PM

I have had a few cars in my day, but for what PR is looking for, I think my choices are well suited~

PICK ME PICK MEEE

CrazyPhuD 06-20-2013 07:06 PM

No offense but you're kinda doing this backwards. You said you want to autoX, what class do you want to run in? Street prepared, stock, modified, etc? Also do you want to be competitive?

I would say go here

http://www.scca.com/solo/content.cfm?cid=44517

Look at the 2013 stock classifications and see which cars are in which class and what you want to run in. i.e.

http://www.scca.com/assets/2013%20St...rer%205-17.pdf

Then if you're still deciding you can ask people what they think of the cars you're looking at.

pr_capone 06-20-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9765665)
No offense but you're kinda doing this backwards. You said you want to autoX, what class do you want to run in? Street prepared, stock, modified, etc? Also do you want to be competitive?

I would say go here

http://www.scca.com/solo/content.cfm?cid=44517

Look at the 2013 stock classifications and see which cars are in which class and what you want to run in. i.e.

http://www.scca.com/assets/2013%20St...rer%205-17.pdf

Then if you're still deciding you can ask people what they think of the cars you're looking at.

No offense taken.

I would most certainly be running in a stock class. Also, the purpose of a race is to come in first... no? Of course I want to be competitive! lol

Aside from it being stock, I don't much care class (a,b,c...) I'm in.

CrazyPhuD 06-20-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9765673)
No offense taken.

I would most certainly be running in a stock class. Also, the purpose of a race is to come in first... no? Of course I want to be competitive! lol

Aside from it being stock, I don't much care class (a,b,c...) I'm in.

Honestly I've been too far out of Autocross to be up to date(I still own my S2K though), but the reason I ask is that some classes are dominated by one type of car or not and if you want to be competitive in that class you want to look at that type of car. It depends upon how serious your local is 'cause it may not matter as much.

I'm sure the BRZ/FRS is really popular I just don't know how much of a pain is is to get one since they are popular overall. Unfortunately we have a real dearth of new 'sports' cars lately. If you want new the selections might be a bit thin.

CrazyPhuD 06-20-2013 07:33 PM

One other point to everyone else. For autocross, raw power isn't always the best. Some of the best autoX cars are quick and well balanced but may not have a ton of raw power.

Take the GTO mentioned earlier, I like the car and think it can be made into a pretty decent track car but for autocross I don't think it works...too heavy even with the fun power.

That said the GTO is coming back...it's the Holden, and it's coming back as the Chevy SS.

COchief 06-20-2013 07:39 PM

You have a few options here:

All in one vehicle solution WRX, hatch if you're smart.

Or FWD options Fiesta/focus ST, GTI (heavy/slow), Mazdaspeed 3, Mini.

Or RWD with Daily Driver combo S2000 (the only option), Miata (if gay), 350z (heavy/slow), RX8 (perfect car but tard engine).

I know your tastes from past threads, I just saved you a billion hours. Pick from above and find a stellar example.

Good luck and don't settle for anything less than what you want or be hasty in your selection.

BigBeauford 06-20-2013 07:39 PM

Again, I keep telling you to wait a sec, but the 2015 Mustang will be built on the new EVOS platform and finally get IRS. I have seen some of the concepts, and are moving away from the retro look. I like it.

Molitoth 06-20-2013 07:43 PM

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