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KCrockaholic 12-09-2012 09:36 PM

Bowe.... Stay DOWN!

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 03:51 PM

From an article in SI by Jim Trotter.

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With college football's regular season in the books, NFL teams are intensifying their scrutiny of prospects for the 2013 draft. If there's an emerging story line, it's that the upcoming class won't be as top-heavy as a year ago, when QB's Andrew Luck and RG3 were the top two choices. Says one general manager, "You definitely don't want the first pick, because there's not a 'must have' guy."

SI interviewed a half-dozen NFL scouts and G.M.'s to identify the top eight prospects, without regard for any particular team's needs. The list is notable for seven juniors who are likely to declare and the absence of any offensive skill-position players.

1. Luke Joeckel, OT

"He plays LT, which is a premium. He's got the size and athleticism, and he's very smart. He's going to continue to grow into his body."

2. Taylor Lewan, OT

"He has a big frame, a good motor and a nasty streak. He's also started 34 or 35 games, so he has a lot of experience. He's not an 'elite' LT, but look for him to rise up boards."

3. Barkevious Mingo, OLB

"The two things he has are a knack for pass rushing and speed. That's a combination that gets you drafted high."

4. Bjoern Werner, DE

"He's one of the best pass rushers in the draft. I wouldn't call him dominant, but there's such a premium on guys who can get to the QB that he'll go a little higher than he should."

5. Star Lotulelei, NT

"He's good, but his value is going to escalate even further because there aren't many quality defensive tackles."

6. DeMarcus Milliner, CB

"He's a big corner with good speed and ball skills who hits. He's got a lot of upside. He's well-coached with good fundamentals, and he's going to test well at the combine."

7. Alec Ogletree, ILB

"He's got a little bit of a questionable background, but he's definitely a talent. He's a converted safety who can play all three downs and could probably play any linebacker position. He plays with a nasty streak, too."

8. Jarvis Jones, OLB

"He's a good pass rusher, but he doesn't have that Von Miller type burst around the corner. He's able to win with power and just enough getting-around-the-edge quickness."

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 04:14 PM

Jim Trotter hates skill position players.

Ain't that cute.

RealSNR 12-15-2012 04:16 PM

I'm going to go ahead and say it.

I'm smarter than those GMs.

Seriously. Do they not see the potential of Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson in the pros? Are they ****ing blind? Do they have Chiefnj2 Syndrome? What the **** is their problem.

cyborgtable 12-15-2012 08:02 PM

Wow, just wow. Do scouts not know how important the QB is. How dumb can they be

htismaqe 12-15-2012 08:50 PM

ROFL

Taylor Lewan at #2?

What a ****ing moron.

htismaqe 12-15-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cyborgtable (Post 9211379)
Wow, just wow. Do scouts not know how important the QB is. How dumb can they be

Forget about QBs.

He's got Joeckel #1 and Taylor Lewan #2.

He obviously knows NOTHING about left tackles.

whoman69 12-15-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 9176064)
Something tells me the Raiders will sneak ahead of us.

They're certainly doing their best by putting their scrubs in against us.

cyborgtable 12-15-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9211446)
Forget about QBs.

He's got Joeckel #1 and Taylor Lewan #2.

He obviously knows NOTHING about left tackles.

And this is a list of "6 scouts and general managers" no less. Hell this is probably a poor attempt at a smoke screen

SAUTO 12-15-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9211444)
ROFL

Taylor Lewan at #2?

What a ****ing moron.

but he's started 34 OR 35 games.

Not sure which though but I'm sure he's the second best player in this draft
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Tombstone RJ 12-15-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cyborgtable (Post 9211379)
Wow, just wow. Do scouts not know how important the QB is. How dumb can they be

Of course scouts know how important a QB is, that doesn't mean they rate them high just because they are "important". They are rating the players according to their overall talent and for whatever reason, many pundits feel this draft is not top heavy at the skill positions, especially QB.

AussieChiefsFan 12-15-2012 10:22 PM

KC (2-11) - (2-14)
LOSS @ Raiders
LOSS VS Colts
LOSS @ Broncos

Jags (2-11) - (2-14)
LOSS @ Dolphins
LOSS VS Patriots
50/50 @ Titans

Raiders (3-10) - (4-12)
WIN VS Chiefs
LOSS @ Panthers
LOSS @ Chargers

Panthers (4-9) - (6-10)
WIN @ Chargers
WIN VS Raiders
LOSS @ Saints
Eagles (4-10) - (4-12)
LOSS VS Bengals
LOSS VS Redskins
LOSS @ Giants

Cardinals (4-9) - (4-12)
LOSS Lions
LOSS Bears
LOSS @ 49ers

Titans (4-9) - (6-10)
WIN VS Jets
LOSS @ Packers
50/50 VS Jags

htismaqe 12-15-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9211587)
Of course scouts know how important a QB is, that doesn't mean they rate them high just because they are "important". They are rating the players according to their overall talent and for whatever reason, many pundits feel this draft is not top heavy at the skill positions, especially QB.

If they were rating for overall talent, you'd see names like Damontre Moore in there and you wouldn't see Taylor ****ing Lewan.

This has nothign to do with the QBs not being "elite" in this draft. This has everything to do with how people overvalue offensive tackles.

Jake Long over Matt Ryan? Of course, about half the league is stupid enough to do that.

stonedstooge 12-15-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cyborgtable (Post 9211481)
And this is a list of "6 scouts and general managers" no less. Hell this is probably a poor attempt at a smoke screen

Probably 5 scouts and Pisoli all from the Cheaps


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