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Rams Fan 12-16-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8208882)
Talk about pissing away picks on offensive linemen...

I don't think spending 2 picks in the top 2 rounds, over 2 drafts, is pissing away picks.

The Rams NEEDED a LT. They thought they were going to get that in Smith.

The Rams NEEDED a RT. They thought Saffold was going to play there.

Saffold played at LT, Smith at RT.

And those two guys are the only starters the Rams have on their OL that they drafted.

Jeez...

Titty Meat 12-16-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8209100)
Tannehill takes off running way more often than RGIII does from the games I've seen this year. Sheesh. And people worry about RGIII getting clobbered in the NFL.

I really don't want any part of Tannehill, personally. I think Stanzi was a far better passer who came from a pro system, and will end up being a better pro.

Tannehill and Jones. Those two QBs. Ishy poo.

Tannehill has only been a QB for 1.5 years and will be a much more productive player than Ricky Stanzi.

Rams Fan 12-16-2011 04:02 PM

The last time a Top 5 pick was traded in the Draft was 2009.

The Jets gave up their 1st and 2nd round picks, and 3 other players.

HemiEd 12-16-2011 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8209087)
How does a team who wants to get younger and develop trade for a 35 year old, passed his prime, broke neck QB?

They just went (predictably) from a rebuild to a win now mode. Need butts in the seats! Its the Chiefs way, and I predicted it several months ago.
The definition of insanity, maybe they will get lucky and get different results this time.

Chiefshrink 12-16-2011 04:04 PM

Pioli ain't trading up, he will bring in McDaniels to save face with his Cassel debacle trade plain and simple. What coach would want to come here being told make Cassel successful except for McDaniels.

We're trading down if anything.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 8209113)
I don't think spending 2 picks in the top 2 rounds, over 2 drafts, is pissing away picks.

The Rams NEEDED a LT. They thought they were going to get that in Smith.

The Rams NEEDED a RT. They thought Saffold was going to play there.

Saffold played at LT, Smith at RT.

And those two guys are the only starters the Rams have on their OL that they drafted.

Jeez...

If you read the message I responded to, you'd see they were suggesting the Rams would take Matt Kalil.

Rams Fan 12-16-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8209132)
If you read the message I responded to, you'd see they were suggesting the Rams would take Matt Kalil.

I get that.

My reading comprehension is 0.

But there isn't anything wrong with selecting Kalil if they are able to redo Smith's contract.

Just my $.01(yeah, I went there).

HemiEd 12-16-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 8209123)
The last time a Top 5 pick was traded in the Draft was 2009.

The Jets gave up their 1st and 2nd round picks, and 3 other players.

And most people agreed that they raped the Browns in that trade to acquire Sanchez, because nobody wanted to move up.

Of course, with the new Rookie slotting, the picks are more valuable and more people will be willing to move up.

RealSNR 12-16-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8209115)
Tannehill has only been a QB for 1.5 years and will be a much more productive player than Ricky Stanzi.

Why do you like him? He doesn't impress me that much. He looks like Blaine Gabbert, only less spectacular.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-16-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8208389)
Assume for the sake of argument KC wins another game or two and finishes somewhere around 13 in the draft. The top 6 are:

1 Colts 0 16
2 Rams 2 14
3 Vikings 2 14
4 Washington 4 12
5 Panthers 4 12
6 Browns 4 12
7 Dolphins 4 12

The Colts are going with Luck and aren't trading. You want to move up for Barkley and/or Griffin. What do you give up for each of them, and which spot are trying to get to?

I'd offer the Vikings the 2012 1st and 2nd, and 2013 1st for RGIII. I'm not sure about Barkley yet.


Chiefs will be 5-11


Skins getting to 6-10 wins vs eagles and vikes
Panthers getting to 6-10 wins vs texans and bucs

Titty Meat 12-16-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8209153)
Why do you like him? He doesn't impress me that much. He looks like Blaine Gabbert, only less spectacular.

Like I said he's a project but I like the guys size and can make any throw. I was pretty impressed with him when A&M played LSU he was hitting guys who were covered. He did throw a few picks that game but it was like his 7th game as a starter.

whoman69 12-16-2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8209052)
A few posts later I said Tannehill could be a good QB given a year or 2 on the bench.

Ryan Tannehill will be in the NFL draft this year.

In order for the Chiefs to get him they will have to draft him.

The Chiefs draft Ryan Tannehill that means they will have to develop him.

That means the Chiefs will have drafted and developed a QB.

Drafting is not the same as developing. The Chiefs went from 1987-2007 without starting a QB they had drafted. BTW, that QB in 1987 only threw one pass, Doug Hudson. Mike Elkins threw one pass. Matt Blundin had 9 attempts and was given up on after 2 seasons. Steve Matthews had 48 attempts all with other franchises. Steve Stensrom didn't even make the roster though he was in the league 4 years after with over 300 attempts. James Kilian didn't make the roster, Pat Barnes didn't make the roster.

The Chiefs didn't even draft a QB from 1998 until 2005.

ChiefsCountry 12-16-2011 04:23 PM

Tannehill would be a typical Chiefs pick. A converted player.

jd1020 12-16-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8209193)
Tannehill would be a typical Chiefs pick. A converted player.

He's not really a converted player. He went to A&M as a QB. They used him as a WR and now he's back at QB.

Titty Meat 12-16-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8209188)
Drafting is not the same as developing. The Chiefs went from 1987-2007 without starting a QB they had drafted. BTW, that QB in 1987 only threw one pass, Doug Hudson. Mike Elkins threw one pass. Matt Blundin had 9 attempts and was given up on after 2 seasons. Steve Matthews had 48 attempts all with other franchises. Steve Stensrom didn't even make the roster though he was in the league 4 years after with over 300 attempts. James Kilian didn't make the roster, Pat Barnes didn't make the roster.

The Chiefs didn't even draft a QB from 1998 until 2005.

Huh?


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