Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?
 

Just curious to see who uses or has used these types of products and what your experiences were.

Did you have a specific reason for using them?

Did they work?

Did you experience any side effects?

YOU SHUT YOUR FACE WHEN YOU ASK ME THAT!!!

No, why?

No interest in test, but would love some HGH.

I've used steroids...







....to help with some swelling after a major allergic reaction.

LMAO

Beat me to it.

I've been injected with steroids...

...to help with bad disks in my lower back.

Tobada style workouts will spike the hell out of your HGH production levels. I don't know how that compares to using synthetics, though.

Yes. I initially used them to help keep muscle while I leaned out in college. After that, I loved what they did for me and I used them for gaining size.

I did several cycles. The first was winstrol and deca. After that I making my own testosterone and trenbolone. I did 3 cycles of that.

They were effing awesome. I felt like they let me fully take advantage of my hard work in the gym.

I had some mild sides that differed with the cycle and substance used. During the cycles my skin actually cleared up (hormone stabilization), my hair started to thin a bit, sometimes I felt a bit anxious or on edge, but overall I was happier and more confident with them. And the best side effect was that I got strong as hell on the tren - my strength greatly outpaced my muscle growth.

Coming off was the worst time for sides.

Interesting. How did you get introduced to it? How long did the effects (good and bad) last?

No interest in test, but would love some HGH.

I'm on a generous TRT dosing schedule and have used some OTC steroids. Fun stuff.

I shot up test for only about 8 weeks. The side effects and cost were just too much for me to maintain (mostly the cost. shouldn't have started something I couldn't finish). But I did notice I felt a lot stronger after those weeks. But there was acne, hot flashes, being extremely horny all the damn time, to the point of it being annoying. The common stuff.

I've kicked around the idea of HGH for awhile. The cancer issues scare me.

I looked into it when I was looking for ways to get rid of some "baby fat" that I had since I was a small kid. I had some pudge around my sides and on my chest that didn't totally go away despite leaning out pretty well in high school. I could see abs, but I still had funny little flab pockets.

Around the time I graduated high school, I started searching the internet for things to help me lean out and I ran across conversations about T3 and Clenbuterol. I considered those, but everyone warned that using those without steroids would eat your muscle away just as fast as it ate your fat. I because a steroid and bodybuilding message board junkie. I read the forums almost every day for about 2 years before I took the plunge. So by then I pretty much knew exactly what to do and what doses were needed. One thing that really pissed / pisses me off is guys that just start haphazardly taking insane dosages of stuff. That's how the stuff got banned in the first place. Moderate, controlled use is not dangerous if done correctly.

The side effects weren't bad and generally only lasted through the cycle and the post cycle sides totally went away about 4 weeks after stopping. I always got bloodwork done at the college clinic to make sure my cholesterol didn't get out of whack.

oh yeah, this.

it made me a machine - no lie and no brag

Lot of my buddies usd in HS football.
The ones that used/abused Test and Winstrol had nasty side effects. One had to get his bitch tits cut out. One dies years later after doing a small amount of coke. Autopsy said his heart was near twice the size of a normal heart. These guys did it carelessly and ignorantly. But they got HUGE.
The ones who did Decca didnt seem to have any problems at all.
I actually have had a cycle in my closet for nearly a decade. Never used it because I was worries my hair would fall out.

L-arginine

Oh yeah, almost forgot to say...it made my balls suck up into my body a little bit.

Those would likely have been catabolic steroids, not anabolic.

In other words they reduce muscle mass rather than build it.

http://www.examiner.com/article/anab...bolic-steroids

Back about 20 years ago I did a cycle of Deca and Test and it worked very well.

No interest in doing anything like that again but done in moderation, like most things, there is no major side effects. Problem is most people get carried away and use way more than they should.

Roids are psychologically addictive.

I would love to get my hands on some HGH though.

If your hair falls out on juice, it was going to fall out anyway. If you aren't prone to it, it won't fall out.

Also, you can use DECA ONLY and it won't bother your hairline anywhere near the way test or other steroids do. Enzymes convert deca into a less harsh substance that doesn't hit your scalp the same way the others do.

FROM 1975 TO 1984 WINSTROL HORSE STEROIDS,SIDE EFFECTS VERY POOR JOINT LUBRICATION,SEVERE ARTHRITIS,BALL SHRINKAGE,DICK SHRINKAGE,EXTREME WEIGHT GAIN,VISION LOSS,HAIR LOSS AND BONE DENSITY ISSUES

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apparently brain shrinkage too

I've used them for about 5 months, injecting into my buttocks. I didn't have any side effects, but I did notice little-to-know fatigue at the gym. My arms wouldn't hurt a bit, I felt like I could keep lifting and lifting. I enjoyed that feeling, then I grew up.

Dayum, we got some Jose Cansecos up in here.

LMAO

I get the feeling you were punching your keyboard.

What makes you so interested in HGH? It can't be difficult to get, can it?

This is all true. The stuff I have is not Decca.

And my entire family is full of bald men. I wanted to keep my hair as long as possible. I made the right call.
Im 33 and have a full head of hair. My brother decided to go for it. He is 28 and completely bald.
Decca is the way to go. I can get it, but have decided to wait till Im around 40.
I just cant justify it at this point, but would like to have an awesome beach body later in life. My body right now is decent. I have basically no body fat. I could use more mass, but can wait till it would benefit me more.

It's very expensive though...at least it was back in my day. Cheap chinese HGH could be purchased, but it was from cadavers.

On the flip side, have you ever heard of Deca dick? You might want to stick a small dose of test with that.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I still have those little pockets of fat that I've had since I was a little kid. I'm convinced that they are never coming off unless I would get them sucked out.

You can get a lot of stuff at aging clinics I think (HGH, Test etc...) but as pointed out, its ridiculous expensive and I don't even think there is a clinic within 2 hours of where I live.

Used in moderation that stuff is like the fountain of youth from what I understand.

Yep. Know people who had it. Im going to do all the research when I get to that point.
Its like you said, If done correctly, it really only benefits the user.
There is also a drug you can get from the doctor that you start a week before coming off your cycle that will wake your nuts up better and help you keep up to 90% of your gains. I forget what it is called.

I didn't realize HGH was so expensive. How much are we talking?

Well, you can use HCG throughout to keep them from falling asleep in the first place. We used to use a combination of Clomid and Nolvadex post cycle.

Gotcha. Didnt know that, but Clomid was what I was talking about.

This. I still ended up with back surgery. I don't think the roids did me any good at all.

Definitely have always had times where I want to use them, Test or HGH. Never have take the plunge though on any of that, oral steroids/hormones included. HGH would be way out of my price range from what I have gathered.

Have no doubt when my Test levels start to decline as I age that I will go some route to boost performace/physique.

whats the point of doing steroids? so you can bench 225 25 times?

I could do 19 reps of 225 at age 43 without taking a single supplement, ever.

I think that most guys do it for the "look".

Yea I agree. A few definitely do it for strength gains, which is really why I would take it now if I did, but for the most part it is for physique minded goals. Increase the Test and decrease the Estrogen for denser muscles and less bodyfat.

I think most do it for the quick results.

yes and yes


imo just about everyone over the age of 45-ish should be on maintenance level dosage of HGH.

1 i.u. per day

I can understand it for the college/pro athletes.

There's a huge plus there. There's a huge risk as well but you're burning the candle at both ends banking on that short bright flash.

Why the **** any everyday Joe would do it is beyond me...

Oh for sure. Definitely why there are so many who shouldn't be dabbling anywhere near this stuff do.

I have been training consistently for 10 years. I would definitely be able to handle a safer cycle and know what the **** I am doing. I think if I ever did it, I would much rather do a lower dose run for some longer duration gains than try a large dosed, concise cycle.

Yes and now I have boobs and no penis.

just the HGH isn't that expensive

you can order it directly from the manufacturer pretty reasonable


the Doctor ups the price x5

2k for a year to 10k per year

(that is an old price ... i'm sure it's gone up in the last 5 years)

Boating accident?

I just never found the need/desire to take them, although I know guys who did in both HS and college.

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Ive never used, often thought about it. AlwAys told myself id never do it until i plateau'd hard but, ive managed to continue to push myself ill gain then recess. Then again i dont go for show i go for gains. 6 months ago i pushed myself to max 350 on bench and 225 on shoulder press. Im now workin 58 hrs A week just bought my first bouse and a baby due any day. To say the leAst my workout has suffered. Now ive got the next 6 weeks 10 hours a day workin outside in the oklahoma sun. If ever ill be tempted to use it will be on this rebound. Ive lost 10 lbs mostly muscle already. Repped 275 8 times today ready to bump my max before i lose it all. I did that taking adrenolyn pre workout-http://www.blackmarketlabs.com/store/products/adrenolyn-bul/

I'm not following the logic here...

this post reminded me on those random responses on youtube videos and yahoo article comments where someone is like "I GAINED 50 POUNDS OF MUSCLE IN 10 DAYS AND AM .25% BODYFAT THANKS TO BLACKPOWDER TEST SUPERPUMP STRENGTH 5000XR. SHIPPING IS FREE WITH FIRST BOTTLE! TRY NOW!"

I really hope you paid nothing near that for that pre-workout. There is nothing special in there and more than likely you just felt the insane amount of 300mgs caffeine! Caffeine...most underrated performance enhancer you can get for cheap.

I bet all you ****ers use aimbots, too.

I think its best to be deep into training like this before doing it for coordination purposes and not over doing your joints early on.

Got it for 15-20 bucks a buddy of mine works a discount sport nutrition i usually get the hook up. I just take that stuff on monday or days i really need the extra boost. Im looking for something low caffine and low or no creatine id like to shake some water wieght. Anyone tried white flood or animal rage? Heard theyre low creatine. And sorry for the randomness in my original post i was coming out of the gym, txting and driving, and the adrenolyn rush.

I wont have much time until things slow down in the fall i will be tempted to juice to get back what ive lost. Ive got no intention of doing them.

I just usually buy whatever pre-workout is cheapest as well and isn't loaded with caffeine. I add my own bulk goodies to them as I want.

White Flood is very good and very cost effective. Can find 100 serving tubs for around $40. Creatine does not make you hold water though. I would have some Creatine Mono in the mix somewhere, it is cheap as dirt and works.

Rage has a ton of caffeine so I stay away from it. I don't need 200+ mgs of caffeine and I think it has close to 300mg per serving.

You have the debt of a new house, wife, and kid on the way.

You'll have plenty of anger and fuel to keep you motivated in the gym...

I Appreciate the Advice im not super sharp on pre workouts, i really just got serious about them. I took shotgun for about a year until i couldnt stand it anymore and for the last 8 months or so ive bounced around usually scoring samples from my buddy. Ive taken shotgun, super pump, adrenolyn, explode ( just made me explode on the toilet), bullknox, and ravage( worst thing ive ever tasted).

Lol its not motivation im worried about. Its time and energy!

using some right now. Nasonex for my allergies! lol I think my dr said they had steroids in it. haha

It depends everyone's biology is different. Some people naturally produce more testosterone(hell the normal range I think is form 250-850nl) and don't drop off as much as they age as others.

I mean maybe you've always been in a natural state of 'roid rage'...that could explain the 'douche'!:p

I've been wanting to get bulked up lately naturally. I've been so lazy for so long that I am starting out just doing basic home stuff like pushups, pullups, ab workouts, running, cycling. Just to get myself started a bit. Plus I can't afford the gym until next week. It's been a long time coming for me.

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White Flood is very good and very cost effective. Can find 100 serving tubs for around $40. Creatine does not make you hold water though. I would have some Creatine Mono in the mix somewhere, it is cheap as dirt and works.

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White Flood has been my favorite as well. I know a lot of people love the PO's with the caffeine/1,3 Dimeth combo like Jack3d, but I've never been a fan of that stuff.

I tried a couple of cycles out when I was 22 and in the Air Force. It definitely helps....but I was to lazy at the time and would skip workouts to drink. The mistake I made is that I lived with 4 other guys at the time and we did it all together. WAY to much testosterone in one house at one time.

Yes, HGH. LOVED IT!!!!!
I did it for about 3 months. Felt great, workouts rocked, leaned out. I wish I could do it again, but the guy I bought the original stuff from is no longer in Vegas, and I don't trust anyone else. Plus that shit is expensive. But, if I could, I would again in a heartbeat.
Steriods on the other hand, No Fn way.

What did you pay for the HGH?

Excuse my ignorance, but are HGHs legal to buy from anyone that isn't a doctor who has prescribed them?

$700 for 3 months worth, but that was about 7 years ago.

No, its not legal to sell unless your a doctor. Plus, doctors wont perscribe it often either. Sucks, because that stuff rocks. Now, you can find it at a weight management clinic, or anti-aging clinic, but I think its still really restricted even with them.

I believe there are peptides of HGH out there that have similar results, but much less expensive.

So I assume you got yours prescribed?

ROFLo:-)

I guess not. :D

Nope. But, Im considering checking with a medical doctor that does because Im recovering from knee surgery, and maybe thats an angle??? Maybe not, but its worth a shot??? Stuff is awesome....

That's not all that bad if it's as great as people on here are saying.

Worth a try.

What did the HGHs help you with anyway? Weight training, fitness, etc?

EDIT: Ah I just checked your original post again. So is there a big difference between weight training etc with HGHs opposed to without them?

Yeah, weight management, getting leaner, stronger, workouts. Overall feeling like a million bucks not just in body but mind. I loved it!