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dirk digler 10-10-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7079156)
No, it's not unrealistic, considering that we got shutout offensively in 2 out of 4 games, against medicore defenses.

That's not going to cut it.

Ok so let's say we bench Cassel this week and Croyle comes in and in the 2nd series gets leveled and is out for the year. It is not like that hasn't happened at least a few times. Then what do you have?

Hammock Parties 10-10-2010 11:09 PM

That t-shirt shit pisses me off, though.

****ing establish yourself as a player, flava clown.

RealSNR 10-10-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7079162)
Ok so let's say we bench Cassel this week and Croyle comes in and in the 2nd series gets leveled and is out for the year. It is not like that hasn't happened at least a few times. Then what do you have?

So you're saying we should start Cassel over Croyle to avoid the risk of having to start Cassel if/when Croyle gets injured.

Could you make your way to the inquisition thread, please?

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7079159)
First of all, haven't read anything, just answering the OP.

Second, you're closing line is comedy gold for me. Love it.

Third. I think a lot of blame should be laid at the feet of two guys who are not Dexter McCluster.

Matt Cassel, for failing to get the ball to ANYONE not named Moeaki. Which actually contests my anti Cassel point. Why on earth can Moeaki not only get open consistently, but also catch a Cassel ball, but nobody else can? I mean, I'm an Iowa guy, so I know the guy is great. Mayock knows nothing when he says “He’s not a great blocker, (but) he’s got an edge to him and will block.” Iowa fans, many on this very board know that Moeaki was without a doubt the best TE in this draft. All around a DAMNED good blocker and a good option in the passing game. Coming up with big plays at big moments. Ferentz didn't say he's the best TE he's ever coached for nothing(better than Dallas Clark).

Also, Weis, who I think calls a SHIT game. Sure, he draws up some genius plays, but sucks when calling them. Too many JC draws on 3rd and long getting tackled before he even has the ball for my liking. Weis does not gameplan as well as RAC. Needs to get something out of Cassel, period.

All that and the off topic said. I too am disappoint in McCluster. He needs to get open, he needs to catch the ball, and he needs to be explosive. Period.

That said, why hasn't Dex gone deep? He has the speed. I still want to see them bring in JC in the backfield, shift him out and send he and Dex deep, with Bowe and Chambers staying short to intermediate. We can't have a deep game if we don't try to create one.

I don't have a problem with the playcalling.

For the majority of the game, the plays worked if our players would actually execute.

As for Dex, he hasn't gone deep because that's not his bread and butter. he needs the receivers to at least give him space on the underneath routes so he can catch and run. That's where he's most dangerous. You get a legit QB who's not even great, but scary enough that Safeties have to play back a bit, that's when McCluster can really shine.

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7079155)
I don't know man, Haley and Weis, I could see. But Pioli? The guy who brought him here with a $60 million contract? I have my doubts.

If Pioli is truly going to lead this team back to the Super Bowl, he'll need to trust his eyes and his coaches. Guiding a team from the standpoint of perceived failure will get this team nowhere.

I'd like to believe he's a bigger man than that.

RealSNR 10-10-2010 11:14 PM

I have an ass tumor. The doctor says there's a good chance that treatment of the ass tumor is going to fail. That really puts me in a pickle, I know.

I think the right decision is to just leave the tumor alone and hope it improves.

Coach 10-10-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7079162)
Ok so let's say we bench Cassel this week and Croyle comes in and in the 2nd series gets leveled and is out for the year. It is not like that hasn't happened at least a few times. Then what do you have?

Well, at least they tried. That's all we're asking.

Brock 10-10-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7079162)
Ok so let's say we bench Cassel this week and Croyle comes in and in the 2nd series gets leveled and is out for the year. It is not like that hasn't happened at least a few times. Then what do you have?

How are you worse off?

Coach 10-10-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7079173)
If Pioli is truly going to lead this team back to the Super Bowl, he'll need to trust his eyes and his coaches. Guiding a team from the standpoint of perceived failure will get this team nowhere.

I'd like to believe he's a bigger man than that.

I'd like to as well, but keep in mind that this is the guy that disregarded the 2009 draft by the Chiefs scouting team, and went with NE's scout draft. That didn't work out too well.

dirk digler 10-10-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7079168)
So you're saying we should start Cassel over Croyle to avoid the risk of having to start Cassel if/when Croyle gets injured.

Could you make your way to the inquisition thread, please?

I am not defending Cassel at all in fact if he got hurt and couldn't play the rest of the season that would be fine by me.

What I am saying though is we are 3-1 with a 2 game lead in the AFCW and replacing your starting QB is in effect throwing in the towel for the season, a potential division championship and playoff berth.

And now that I think about it the Eagles situation was based on injury as well so we would be doing what the Raiders did.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7079186)
I'd like to as well, but keep in mind that this is the guy that disregarded the 2009 draft by the Chiefs scouting team, and went with NE's scout draft. That didn't work out too well.

It didn't. But I don't think we've seen anything that leads us to believe that he doesn't trust his own guys. That's a much different story. If the Chiefs don't bring in a competitive QB in 2011, that's a different story. For now, I haven't seen anything that should lead us to believe that they have stubborn trust in him.

Brock 10-10-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 7079190)
replacing your starting QB is in effect throwing in the towel for the season, a potential division championship and playoff berth.

No, it isn't.

dirk digler 10-10-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 7079181)
Well, at least they tried. That's all we're asking.

I understand completely I hate Cassel just as much as everybody else does.

dirk digler 10-10-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7079193)
No, it isn't.

IMO it is. If this was a situation where Cassel got injured and Croyle came in and played well so they keep him as the starter that is totally different than benching your starting QB at 3-1.

Titty Meat 10-11-2010 12:12 AM

I'll bet Cassel isn't back next year.


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