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DRU 11-23-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9144386)
I'm trying to think of the advantages of this over just a thermostat switch or a motion detector. Is it smaller? More reliable? Can those devices not be hooked up to the logic to send a selective tweet or post? It seems like the selling point is converting that environmental change into words, right?

It would work the same as an existing thermostat really, so again, I'm just kinda throwing ideas around about what COULD be done, and trying to come up with a practical use-case that makes sense and isn't quite so obvious.

A thermometer could be used like a thermostat if a room, sure, or it could also be used to give real-time feedback on the inside of your BBQ grill, the water in a pool or hot tub, or anything else we could think of.

Just the whole idea of taking a piece of hardware that can return data about itself or what's around it, and then attaching that to the vast number of online services available to developers these days. There are things that have already been doing or would be pretty easy for existing hardware manufacturers to do, but there's SO MUCH data and networking service available online now that haven't been around all that long, so I know there are some interesting things that could be done that aren't being done yet. Just need to put my finger on it.

Dave Lane 11-23-2012 03:53 PM

Here's what you need to build. Look at the price tag, and theres normally a 3 month backlog of orders.

http://www.cyanogen.com/fix.php

Dave Lane 11-23-2012 03:54 PM

Here's the cost page

http://www.cyanogen.com/cloud_buy.php

They sell 2-4000 a year.

DRU 11-23-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9144427)
Here's the cost page

http://www.cyanogen.com/cloud_buy.php

They sell 2-4000 a year.

The problem with something like that is I don't have thousands and thousand of dollars to defend myself against patent and trademark infringement claims. I'm already the victim of "nuisances lawsuits" where a competing company knows damn good and well they have absolutely no shot at winning the case, but they also know I don't have enough money to defend myself. I'm going through that right now with my GiveMobiley solution, unfortunately.

So, ideally, I'd like to come up with something that isn't directly competing with an existing product.

Dave Lane 11-23-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU (Post 9144441)
The problem with something like that is I don't have thousands and thousand of dollars to defend myself against patent and trademark infringement claims. I'm already the victim of "nuisances lawsuits" where a competing company knows damn good and well they have absolutely no shot at winning the case, but they also know I don't have enough money to defend myself. I'm going through that right now with my GiveMobiley solution, unfortunately.

So, ideally, I'd like to come up with something that isn't directly competing with an existing product.

Use that board to build a device like this. Ive seen people doing it from parts for $50 - 100. then just do what you do best and write the software to record the reading in a simple comma delineated file.

Easy peezy.

teedubya 11-23-2012 04:17 PM

This reminds me of http://smartthings.com/... I have a developer license on it's way... as these smart devices are being delivered in Dec...

Motion and geo proximity based smart devices are going to be very popular over the next few years.

DRU 11-23-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 9144460)
This reminds me of http://smartthings.com/... I have a developer license on it's way... as these smart devices are being delivered in Dec...

Motion and geo proximity based smart devices are going to be very popular over the next few years.

I can't say for sure, but it actually looks like those guys are using the Arduino platform. It's open-source (free) and available for people to do exactly that...package it up and provide it to people for a price.

They're probably going to provide developers an easier way to do things with Arduino, which would be great depending on their royalties. Again, everything they're doing in that video (whether it is indeed Arduino or not) is exactly the same as Arduino works. Starting with that basic board housed in their "hub", soldering on extra parts to handle different tasks, and writing software apps to control it all.

I'll have to keep my eye on them. If they provide enough of an improvement over Arduino itself to justify their cost I'll probably use them. Otherwise, I'll just stick with Arduino directly since it's free.

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RippedmyFlesh 11-23-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU (Post 9144368)
Yes, it is. I enjoy playing guitar, too, so I've been thinking of building a little amp or pedal you can enable/disable to automatically trigger events based on specific chords you play or something like that.

That would be a cool security system trigger. Play the right chords to unlock the gate.

listopencil 11-23-2012 04:44 PM

Make a small robot that will patrol your home. Try to rig sensors in line with biological presence. Change in local temp, sound, vibration, etc. Also include a camera that will take stills when possible biological presence is detected, tweet/text you, with the option of turning on a video/audio stream that you can access. While you are doing this market the intermediate stages as a house pet observation device.

RippedmyFlesh 11-23-2012 04:50 PM

For dieters connect the system to fridge and cupboards door and require X amount of activity using motion detection to trigger the lock and get something to eat.

Groves 11-23-2012 04:50 PM

A networked chicken coop door actuator. A nice iphone front end, too, please.

Suburban chicken keepers will love it.

jspchief 11-23-2012 04:53 PM

Route tracking on forklifts in a large warehouse. Use the data to create the ideal WH layout, increasing efficiency.

FAX 11-23-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9144406)
I kind of figured that, and it seems like it would be manual. I'm not sure if anyone has devised an automated solution yet. It sounds like a no.

I talked to a guy once about using RFID chips to do this, and someone else about using GPS. At the time, the GPS wasn't precise enough, though maybe it is now. The RFID guy turned out to be a poseur of epic proportions, so I just fled from him.

So far as I know, they're totally manual.

You hire a consultancy who hires a guy who stands around and watches people come in and out of your store. After awhile, they write up a report and suggest you move some stuff around.

Oh, and send you an enormous bill.

That's about it.

FAX

T-Town 11-23-2012 05:47 PM

A group in my senior design class is using this in their project. They are designing a system that turns on the humidifiers and heaters in a yoga studio and then maintains the preset temperature and humidity. They have it set up so that the owner can control it all through an iphone app anywhere he has wifi or 3G. Definitely cool technology.


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