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BossChief 08-22-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842859)
It actually does.



Once new management comes in, all bets are off, no matter what.

With any other position besides quarterback, I would agree with you.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8842866)
Not if you have the most popular athlete on your team next to Lebron.

Why does it matter about popularity?



Was that popularity for being a good QB in the NFL? Nope.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:21 PM

Especially a first round qb, who was projected to go in the third round or later, was drafted by a dipshit kid like coach, who you fired.

BossChief 08-22-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842870)
Why does it matter about popularity?



Was that popularity for being a good QB in the NFL? Nope.

Popularity for being a proven winner (in college) sitting on the bench of a team with a horrible record.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842870)
Why does it matter about popularity?



Was that popularity for being a good QB in the NFL? Nope.

$$$$ brother, $$$$$.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:28 PM

Quinn can't even beat out Cassel.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842894)
Quinn can't even beat out Pioli.

FYP

BoneKrusher 08-22-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842894)
Quinn can't even beat out Cassel.

maybe Pioli doesn't want Quinn to beat out Cassel/
how about Cassel plays with 2nd string this week and Quinn plays with 1st string?

O.city 08-22-2012 07:34 PM

Our HC drafted Quinn, started him in Cleveland.



If he were better than Cassel, he'd be playing.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842924)
Our HC drafted Quinn, started him in Cleveland.



If he were better than Cassel, he'd be playing.

ROFL

You are a TERRIBLE troll.





















Or stupid.

BoneKrusher 08-22-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842924)
Our HC drafted Quinn, started him in Cleveland.



If he were better than Cassel, he'd be playing.

and before the season is over i bet we see Quinn as the starter.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8842930)
and before the season is over i bet we see Quinn as the starter.

Cassel has yet to start a full season as a Chief. I can't wait to see Quinn start.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:38 PM

So you think Brady Quinn, guy who couldn't beat out Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, or Derek Anderson is better than Cassel.




Based on what?

BossChief 08-22-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8842926)
ROFL

You are a TERRIBLE troll.





















Or stupid.

I wouldnt trade 10 of you for 1 O. City.

Truth

BoneKrusher 08-22-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842935)
So you think Brady Quinn, guy who couldn't beat out Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, or Derek Anderson is better than Cassel.




Based on what?

let me see a First Round QB who has never been on a roster this talented or Matt Cassel...


i'd go with a First rounder every time.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:41 PM

If Cassel gets hurt and Quinn does infact earn the 2 spot and plays, goes on to have a shitty performance, I'm building the fire for Boss to roast Mr. Tomahawk on.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842935)
So you think Brady Quinn, guy who couldn't beat out Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, or Derek Anderson is better than Cassel.




Based on what?

Correct that statement and I will answer the question which proceeds it...

O.city 08-22-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8842942)
let me see a First Round QB who has never been on a roster this talented or Matt Cassel...


i'd go with a First rounder every time.

Tim Tebow was a first round qb, who hasn't had a roster this talented either.


Same with Ryan Leaf.



Want them too?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842944)
If Cassel gets hurt and Quinn does infact earn the 2 spot and plays, goes on to have a shitty performance, I'm building the fire for Boss to roast Mr. Tomahawk on.

I've built my own fire. He doesn't need your help.

Trust me.

Slut.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8842954)
I've built my own fire. He doesn't need your help.

Trust me.

Slut.

Got it.




o:-)

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8842936)
I wouldnt trade 10 of you for 1 O. City.

Truth

I'm not smart enough to understand this...

BoneKrusher 08-22-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842952)
Tim Tebow was a first round qb, who hasn't had a roster this talented either.


Same with Ryan Leaf.



Want them too?

i've said it before:
on guts and leadership quality alone i'd take Tebow over Cassel anyday.

Tebow = 1 playoff win

Matt Cassel = 1 Shitfilled uniform after the Ravens loss.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8842958)
I'm not smart enough to understand this...

Me is better than you. Fact

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842964)
Me is better than you. Fact

Makes sense.

O.city 08-22-2012 07:47 PM

Books out on Tebow. Dude is garbage, and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting cut from the Jets in the next year or two.


The guy just isn't a qb. Wanna run the wing T, or the option? Yeah he's the best guy to do that.

Want to run an offense in the NFL that is successful? Not so much.

RustShack 08-22-2012 07:50 PM

Quinn was #2 on the depth chart in Denver. The fans had been chanting for Tebow and the Broncos elected to grant their wishes. The the first game of the playoffs, they starting making a special package for Brady Quinn to come in if they need to pass, because you know, thats the QB's job and they thought Tebow wouldn't be able to do it for them.

ChiefsCountry 08-22-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8842781)
Our best 3 QB's played their college football in the state Indiana. Maybe we can hit with a 4th.

Dawson... Purdue
Montana... Notre Dame
Green... Indiana
Quinn... Notre Dame

Might just work.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=255566
;)

Coogs 08-22-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8842984)

:thumb:

I'd love for history to repeat itself.

O.city 08-22-2012 09:01 PM

Quinn's gonna have to get extremely lucky to even get a chance here in KC. I think it's too late for him TBH.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843167)
Quinn's gonna have to get extremely lucky to even get a chance here in KC. I think it's too late for him TBH.

Define "chance".

O.city 08-22-2012 09:03 PM

More than a spot start.



Cassel, like it or not, is the starter. Quinn is gonna have to be that much better and hope Cassel gets hurt or plays terrible.

BossChief 08-22-2012 09:04 PM

Brady Quinn is fools gold.

But he's our fools gold.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843176)
More than a spot start.



Cassel, like it or not, is the starter. Quinn is gonna have to be that much better and hope Cassel gets hurt or plays terrible.

Well Cassel has yet to play a full season here, so...

O.city 08-22-2012 09:06 PM

So say Cassel does miss a game or two. Quinn woudl have to dominate to show he deserves a chance.


Besides, Cassel hasn't ever had a line this good, he won't miss a game this year.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843182)
So say Cassel does miss a game or two. Quinn woudl have to dominate to show he deserves a chance.


Besides, Cassel hasn't ever had a line this good, he won't miss a game this year.

k.

O.city 08-22-2012 09:07 PM

What exactly makes you think Quinn would be this good, if given the chance?



What he did in Cleveland?




Or at ND?

L.A. Chieffan 08-22-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843179)
Well Cassel has yet to play a full season here, so...

Yeah, he missed a game that one time because he had his APPENDIX REMOVED.

What a pussy. :rolleyes:

Frankie 08-22-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8832699)
Quinn could do very well with our first team offense. Hes better than Kyle Orton.

Sorry Rust. Not even close.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8842564)
Quinn has never honestly had this much talent.

This much?! He has zero talent, sir.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8842684)
this one's for pest

http://i.imgur.com/g2yHD.gif

He's throwing off his back foot. After many years in the NFL he should have at least learned not to.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8843189)
Yeah, he missed a game that one time because he had his APPENDIX REMOVED.

What a pussy. :rolleyes:

Didn't call him a pussy.

Did I...?

You simply elaborated on what I was saying.

Thank you.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843188)
What exactly makes you think Quinn would be this good, if given the chance?



What he did in Cleveland?




Or at ND?

He accomplished more in college than Cassel did...

BossChief 08-22-2012 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843176)
More than a spot start.



Cassel, like it or not, is the starter. Quinn is gonna have to be that much better and hope Cassel gets hurt or plays terrible.

Look at our opening stretch and try to remember Matt Cassel against the types of defenses he will be facing every week to open the season.

Falcons have a good pass rush and really good corners.
The Bills pass rush is gonna be very very good and they have some playmakers in the secondary
The Saints are gonna put up points that Cassel is gonna have to match with his arm.
The Chargers defense added a few nice pieces and Rivers will put up points Cassels arm will need to keep up with
ravens
The buccaneers arent top shelf good, but they have a good DL and LBs and their offense should be able to put points on the board.

Its not out of the question that by the bye week, Cassel will have played himself out of the starters spot.

O.city 08-22-2012 09:14 PM

I've yet to read an answer as to why some are thinking he has a chance to be good, other than he was good in college?

O.city 08-22-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843199)
He accomplished more in college than Cassel did...

So did Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen, Rick Stanzi etc.




Whats your point?

L.A. Chieffan 08-22-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843197)
Didn't call him a pussy.

Did I...?

You simply elaborated on what I was saying.

Thank you.

You implied that Cassel is injury prone and Quinn will more than likely have a chance to start. This is false.

Your welcome.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843202)
I've yet to read an answer as to why some are thinking he has a chance to be good, other than he was good in college?

How does one argue "he has a chance to be good"?

Doesn't he have to awarded an opportunity before he can be judged?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843203)
So did Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen, Rick Stanzi etc.




Whats your point?

Answering your question with relevance...

O.city 08-22-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843206)
How does one argue "he has a chance to be good"?

Doesn't he have to awarded an opportunity before he can be judged?

Didn't he have a chance in Cleveland and Denver?

O.city 08-22-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843207)
Answering your question with relevance...

So by saying he was good in college, it somehow rules out that all those other guys were also good in college how?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8843204)
You implied that Cassel is injury prone and Quinn will more than likely have a chance to start. This is false.

Your welcome.

How many complete seasons has he played for the Chiefs?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843213)
So by saying he was good in college, it somehow rules out that all those other guys were also good in college how?

He accomplished more than Matt Cassel.

That is ALL I said.

If you want to make more out of the statement and cry over it, go for it...

L.A. Chieffan 08-22-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843215)
How many complete seasons has he played for the Chiefs?

So now you realize what you said was idiotic and your trying to back pedal.

Weak sauce dude.

Thank you.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8843222)
So now you realize what you said was idiotic and your trying to back pedal.

Weak sauce dude.

Thank you.

I missed the answer...

How many?

O.city 08-22-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843220)
He accomplished more than Matt Cassel.

That is ALL I said.

If you want to make more out of the statement and cry over it, go for it...

So by stating that he did more than Matt Cassel in college, somehow means he will turn out to be a good quarterback?

BossChief 08-22-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843215)
How many complete seasons has he played for the Chiefs?

That's not fair and you know it.

There are lots of things to clown Cassel on, being physically tough isn't one of them.

To me, he is a mental pussy because the blitz destroys him.

As soon as he feels any pressure (real or not) he stops looking downfield almost immediately.

L.A. Chieffan 08-22-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8843225)
I missed the answer...

How many?

How many appendices does a human being have?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8843231)
That's not fair and you know it.

There are lots of things to clown Cassel on, being physically tough isn't one of them.

To me, he is a mental pussy because the blitz destroys him.

As soon as he feels any pressure (real or not) he stops looking downfield almost immediately.

Fair or not...it is a legitimate questions.

Something will cause him to miss a game....injury....family situation...I don't know. But he has yet to play a complete season.

I don't know how stating that he will miss a game this season is such a radical statement given his history...?

O.city 08-22-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8843231)
That's not fair and you know it.

There are lots of things to clown Cassel on, being physically tough isn't one of them.

To me, he is a mental pussy because the blitz destroys him.

As soon as he feels any pressure (real or not) he stops looking downfield almost immediately.

Not anymore, Daboll has changed that.

xztop12 08-22-2012 09:25 PM

remember that Quinn would have been the starting QB in his 3rd year had Romeo not been fired. The new coach came in and wanted big turnover an Quinn was a casualty of that.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843230)
So by stating that he did more than Matt Cassel in college, somehow means he will turn out to be a good quarterback?

Again...


Didn't say that.


I said..he accomplished more than Cassel did in College.

O.city 08-22-2012 09:26 PM

To be honest Tomahawk, I'm really just playing devils advocate here. I've liked Quinn since he was in ND and I think qb play has alot to do with situation.



I'm just not sure I wanna jump on that train.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843246)
To be honest Tomahawk, I'm really just playing devils advocate here. I've liked Quinn since he was in ND and I think qb play has alot to do with situation.



I'm just not sure I wanna jump on that train.

Stay on the Cassel train.

He has looked good this preseason.

O.city 08-22-2012 09:27 PM

So let me get this right, I asked what made you think Quinn would be a GOOD qb if given the chance.



You said, he was better than Cassel in college.


Correct?

BossChief 08-22-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843238)
Not anymore, Daboll has changed that.

haha

We can hope, but I keep going back to the Tyson comment.

"everybody has a plan till they get hit in the mouth"

Those are some tough defenses/teams to have as your first 6 games.

Setsuna 08-22-2012 09:30 PM

LOL who brought this terrible thread back. It should be pining the fords at this point.

O.city 08-22-2012 09:31 PM

Setsuna, what makes you think Quinn is so bad?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-22-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843250)
So let me get this right, I asked what made you think Quinn would be a GOOD qb if given the chance.



You said, he was better than Cassel in college.


Correct?

Didn't necessarily answer it why I thought he would be good.

Just pointing out our current QB did, well, nothing in college...

So what does it matter what he did in college or Cleveland?

All I care is what he does now. When he gets a chance (to start).

Frankie 08-22-2012 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8842935)
So you think Brady Quinn, guy who couldn't beat out Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, or Derek Anderson is better than Cassel.

Based on what?

:clap:

Braincase 08-22-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843188)
What exactly makes you think Quinn would be this good, if given the chance?



What he did in Cleveland?




Or at ND?

Cleveland? Got hurt

ND? You're kidding, right?

BossChief 08-22-2012 09:48 PM

Who gives two shits what these guys did in college?

It was a million years ago and doesnt matter to anything except a players ceiling.

The Franchise 08-22-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8843196)
This much?! He has zero talent, sir.

This much talent AROUND him. Moron....

RustShack 08-22-2012 09:53 PM

I loooove that people always point to Cleveland in their arguments trying to say someone sucks. I'm a Cleveland Cavs fan, its pretty well known that city just doesn't win.

Denver? Yeah what was a crap shoot and anyone who followed it knew they had to go with Tebow.

saphojunkie 08-22-2012 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8842934)
Cassel has yet to start a full season as a Chief. I can't wait to see Quinn start.

:clap:

I really hope Cassel plays at a Pro Bowl level. I hope any starting QB for the Chiefs plays at a pro bowl level.

Having said that, the odds are in favor of one of our backups starting at least one game this year.

I think that Quinn, reunited with the head coach who drafted him, with a - gasp - strong running game and a - GASP GASP! - excellent corps of receivers, has a genuine chance to finally develop into the premier passer that people thought he could be.

I would be happy for Cassel if he did it, too. I would. But part of me would be giddy if it were Quinn.

Just remember people, if Quinn comes out and leads this team to victory, it's yet another reason to hate Carl Peterson! :hmmm:

Setsuna 08-23-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8843259)
Setsuna, what makes you think Quinn is so bad?

I have seen him crumble under pressure. Not necessarily the pressure of the rush. But the pressure of being called upon to provide adequate QB play in important games. Important games like regular season games and a preseason game that would have solidified himself as the #2 QB in Denver. This pressure it seems makes him play dumb to where he doesn't think on the field. It's really sad to see it but he can't get over that hump. That 4th game of the preseason. When all he'll have to do is play decent to wrap up the #2, he may very well look like he did a year ago, garbage. If he doesn't, well done. But if he ever gets a chance to start, it won't be pretty and you'll see it fairly quickly.

saphojunkie 08-23-2012 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8843732)
I have seen him crumble under pressure. Not necessarily the pressure of the rush. But the pressure of being called upon to provide adequate QB play in important games. Important games like regular season games and a preseason game that would have solidified himself as the #2 QB in Denver. This pressure it seems makes him play dumb to where he doesn't think on the field. It's really sad to see it but he can't get over that hump. That 4th game of the preseason. When all he'll have to do is play decent to wrap up the #2, he may very well look like he did a year ago, garbage. If he doesn't, well done. But if he ever gets a chance to start, it won't be pretty and you'll see it fairly quickly.

So, basically you're saying this because of the nine games he started in Cleveland as a rookie & 2nd year guy with shit around him, and a preseason game in Denver? That seems a bit premature.

WhiteWhale 08-23-2012 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8842942)
let me see a First Round QB who has never been on a roster this talented or Matt Cassel...


i'd go with a First rounder every time.

Jamarcus Russell is available.

BoneKrusher 08-23-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8843842)
Jamarcus Russell is available.

we dont need an Offensive Lineman tho.

WhiteWhale 08-23-2012 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8843844)
we dont need an Offensive Lineman tho.

Well, you're just being evasive... but I laughed so that's fine. :D

Frankie 08-23-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8843333)
This much talent AROUND him. Moron....

I got it..... SHEESH!...The fact that you are calling me a moron says that YOU did not get my sarcasm/silliness.

Mr_Tomahawk 08-24-2012 07:50 PM

...is it time?

BoneKrusher 08-24-2012 07:51 PM

time for the Mighty Quinn.


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