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phisherman 05-14-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 11498870)
Had aa student teacher in HS for choir (yes, I am/was a badass singer), who was Mrs kansas runner up. So she was about a 7. But I don't think any of us had the guts to even try.

I'm not really sure if she would've been all that hip on your sleeveless denim shirt you were rocking at the time. LMAO

Donger 05-14-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500005)
For all the bitching about supposedly underqualified applicants that get into colleges, nothing is more maddening to me than women who work for two or three years after going to college, then become stay-at-home moms.

That seems a little weird. You think that mothers should not be college-educated?

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-14-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11500035)
That seems a little weird. You think that mothers should not be college-educated?

ROFL. Yup, that's it.

Actually, I think that if you're not willing to actually put your college education to use, don't take the spot of someone who will.

Donger 05-14-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500061)
ROFL. Yup, that's it.

Actually, I think that if you're not willing to actually put your college education to use, don't take the spot of someone who will.

Well, maybe the education is there whether or not it's being used at the time? Surely some of these women re-enter the workforce after their kids are in school.

Hell, I don't "use" my college education in my profession. In your eyes, I shouldn't have gone to college?

Sorry, that just seems a little weird to me.

RobBlake 05-14-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500005)
For all the bitching about supposedly underqualified applicants that get into colleges, nothing is more maddening to me than women who work for two or three years after going to college, then become stay-at-home moms.


Not maddening to me. Helps them save up for the necessities of they are just waiting on having a baby. Their life

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-14-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11500071)
Well, maybe the education is there whether or not it's being used at the time? Surely some of these women re-enter the workforce after their kids are in school.

Hell, I don't "use" my college education in my profession. In your eyes, I shouldn't have gone to college?

Sorry, that just seems a little weird to me.

That's not what I said at all. I'll be willing to bet that the skills you gained at college helped you transition into your current career, though.

If your ultimate goal is to stay at home for the next 20 years after having your first kid, you aren't utilizing those skills; you're using college to marry up via a bait and switch technique, and you're taking the spot of someone else who actually intends to use the things you learn at college.

That's quite a bit different than staying at home until the kids are toddlers, then rejoining the workforce.

Donger 05-14-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500078)
That's not what I said at all. I'll be willing to bet that the skills you gained at college helped you transition into your current career, though.

No, they really didn't.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500078)
If your ultimate goal is to stay at home for the next 20 years after having your first kid, you aren't utilizing those skills; you're using college to marry up via a bait and switch technique, and you're taking the spot of someone else who actually intends to use the things you learn at college.

That's quite a bit different than staying at home until the kids are toddlers, then rejoining the workforce.

Bait and switch? Really?

I can sense that you're a bit jaded on this matter, but surely some of these women just meet someone that changes their plans, right?

stevieray 05-14-2015 05:17 PM

There's no expiration date for a college degree.

If a woman decides to stay at home, good thing to have in your back pocket down the road.

lewdog 05-14-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500078)
That's not what I said at all. I'll be willing to bet that the skills you gained at college helped you transition into your current career, though.

If your ultimate goal is to stay at home for the next 20 years after having your first kid, you aren't utilizing those skills; you're using college to marry up via a bait and switch technique, and you're taking the spot of someone else who actually intends to use the things you learn at college.

That's quite a bit different than staying at home until the kids are toddlers, then rejoining the workforce.

I have plenty of my classmates who earned expensive advanced degrees only to get knocked up shortly after graduation and have spent the past years not working. One of my other friends, who's a girl, doesn't understand why you would do all this work to get a Master's degree, spend all this money and then just get knocked up and stay home. Seems odd to me as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-14-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11500084)
No, they really didn't.



Bait and switch? Really?

I can sense that you're a bit jaded on this matter, but surely some of these women just meet someone that changes their plans, right?

The critical thinking skills your gained/honed in college were of no use in your career, I'm sure.

You should stop projecting what you want to be beneficial for your argument and actually focus on the issue at hand.

You can certainly meet someone that changes your plans, but that's entirely different than, "I plan to work until I have my first kid, then stop and stay at home."

The people that were brought up aren't changing their plans; they're acting them out. You've got it completely wrong.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-14-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11500103)
There's no expiration date for a college degree.

If a woman decides to stay at home, good thing to have in your back pocket down the road.

There actually is an expiration date. Once you've been out of the workforce for twenty years, that degree is going to be viewed entirely differently than if you are straight out of school. Much of what they will have learned will be obsolete.

Imagine if you got a degree in Computer Science in 1994, left the workforce in 1995 after you got pregnant, had two kids, and just sent the second one off to college.

How relevant are those skills now?

Donger 05-14-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500127)
The critical thinking skills your gained/honed in college were of no use in your career, I'm sure.

You should stop projecting what you want to be beneficial for your argument and actually focus on the issue at hand.

You can certainly meet someone that changes your plans, but that's entirely different than, "I plan to work until I have my first kid, then stop and stay at home."

The people that were brought up aren't changing their plans; they're acting them out. You've got it completely wrong.

I can honestly say that is the case, Hamas. My skills were just fine before I went to KU. I certainly gained knowledge while there, but it isn't used in my career.

I really don't have an argument, other than to apparently counter yours. You seem to believe that there should be a "use it or don't come" requirement for college students. I just don't see what you have against someone getting an education, whether they use it directly in their chosen profession or as a parent. I don't see the difference.

Donger 05-14-2015 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500134)
There actually is an expiration date. Once you've been out of the workforce for twenty years, that degree is going to be viewed entirely differently than if you are straight out of school. Much of what they will have learned will be obsolete.

Imagine if you got a degree in Computer Science in 1994, left the workforce in 1995 after you got pregnant, had two kids, and just sent the second one off to college.

How relevant are those skills now?

Okay, that makes sense. But I would say that is a very specific case and not applicable to say a BA in Philosophy or History.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-14-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11500161)
I can honestly say that is the case, Hamas. My skills were just fine before I went to KU. I certainly gained knowledge while there, but it isn't used in my career.

I really don't have an argument, other than to apparently counter yours. You seem to believe that there should be a "use it or don't come" requirement for college students. I just don't see what you have against someone getting an education, whether they use it directly in their chosen profession or as a parent. I don't see the difference.

Well of course you wouldn't learn anything at KU.

You can learn for the sake of learning on your own. You can also do it at colleges with open admissions. But if you're going to a semi-competitive school with limited spots and your full intention is to work in that field for as long as it takes you to get impregnated, you're not really intending to use your degree as anything more than a rung on the social ladder, or a quasi-dowry.

Those seeking out Mrs degrees also **** over other young women, because there is an implicit assumption of risk among their employers that they made need to train a replacement within two years because they never really had any intention of pursing a career, just a placeholder job. That makes the women who actually want to put in the work appear less valuable to prospective employers.

Donger 05-14-2015 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500179)
Well of course you wouldn't learn anything at KU.

LMAO Let's just say that I was motivationally-challenged in high school.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11500179)
You can learn for the sake of learning on your own. You can also do it at colleges with open admissions. But if you're going to a semi-competitive school with limited spots and your full intention is to work in that field for as long as it takes you to get impregnated, you're not really intending to use your degree as anything more than a rung on the social ladder, or a quasi-dowry.

Those seeking out Mrs degrees also **** over other young women, because there is an implicit assumption of risk among their employers that they made need to train a replacement within two years because they never really had any intention of pursing a career, just a placeholder job. That makes the women who actually want to put in the work appear less valuable to prospective employers.

Okay, I suppose that makes some sense. Honestly, I had never heard of this "Mrs degree" until today. Thanks for the education.


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