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Chiefs go with Luke Joeckel
Despite speculation the Chiefs will go with Geno Smith, they end up with the Texas A&M left tackle. But don't breathe a sigh of relief, Matt Cassel. The Chiefs will find their QB in the second round with E.J. Manuel (who certainly won't mind playing for Andy Reid). In case you're wondering, the Cardinals don't draft Smith (he goes No. 8 to Buffalo), and the Birds end up with Matt Barkley in the second round.

why do yo hate me?

oh yeah?

How about THIS, also from nfl.com?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/mock-d...-brooks/160100

NFL Mock Draft: Geno Smith still holds top spot

By Bucky Brooks |

Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network

Published: Feb. 6, 2013 at 04:03 p.m.
The conclusion of the Senior Bowl nearly brings the college all-star game circuit to a close, prompting NFL scouts and coaches to move on to the next phase in the evaluation process. With teams becoming increasingly familiar with all of the prospects, including a huge class of underclassmen entrants, the connection between team need and available talent is starting to crystallize. Additionally, the hiring of head coaches and coordinators provides us with an idea of how well prospects potentially fit into a team's designated offensive or defensive scheme. While the process remains fluid at this point, I thought I would dive in and take another crack at a mock draft. Since I'm not including a quick explanation behind each pick, feel free to hit me up on Twitter (@buckybrooks) to discuss the rationale behind the selections. Without further ado, here is my mock draft, version 2.0:

Pick 1. Kansas City Chiefs - Geno Smith, QB WVU.

So Geno goes #8.....but not #1. Makes sense. :rolleyes:

I've been a 'Noles fan for years (this is what you do when the hometown team consistently sucks) and as many CB's and DL prospects as I've pimped here over the years I pray to gawd we don't take him.

There is no ability, at all, to elevate his play in big games. He's got talent but over and over and over again has displayed an inability to ever progress to that true leadership role...

Todd McShay does the same horseshit in his latest mock.

Buffalo is taking Glennon. He's the only other QB with a strong enough arm to deliver the ball through their weather.

But Geno will be off the board before they can pick. :thumb:

EJ Manuel is a poor mans Josh Freeman

Jake Long/Chad Henne

And look how well that worked out.

Not even...

Exactly. Jake Long wont make a second contract with the team that drafted him, and the Dolphins have already drafted another QB.

All these guys need to continue to change their mocks etc to try and keep people interested.

When the week of the draft rolls around 90% of the mocks will have Geno Smith at #1.


Don't let them pull your chain

When I say "poor man" I mean half dead under a bridge poor...

Did you read the user comments? JFC our fan base is reeruned.

Someone was arguing the other day that our fan base isn't as stupid as they seem on the Radio....

Nah...they're that ****ing dense.

Yep.

"I dont think the chiefs will take Geno Smith I think they'll take Damontre Moore"

:facepalm:

Are you ****ing with me or something?

They really are. It's awful and unexplainable. I know guys with solid football IQ's that are arguing that we should take Joeckel because he's that "once a decade player at his position", and that Geno Smith/Barkley/Wilson are just guys. I always respond with "How's Miami looking these days with Jake Long?", and get the standard rambling bullshit of WELL THESE ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS....

Except that some people believe that Eric Fischer is a better prospect than Joeckel.

Two once in a decade players in one draft! Then there was Khalil last season, Clady a couple before that, etc, etc....

He's not a once in a decade player. Joekel is a once every single season player. And hell, it could be that Geno Smith is a once every single season player as well - but we need one now.

The logic just doesn't hold on the Joeckel pick once you start to really dig into it.

We have a left tackle. We don't have a quarterback.

That should end the debate before it ever begins.

EJ Manuel..........I haven't been drunk since 2004 but this may be the impetus to take a flying leap off the wagon...

My belief is that once the mouthbreathers start picking their "big boards" on ESPN rational thought goes right the **** out the door. OMGZZ YOU GUYS MCSHAY AND HAIRDO SAY NO QB IS WORTH THE TOP PICK WE BETTER NOT TAKE ONE, completely ignoring the fact that the FIRST thing this team needs is a quarterback.

Maddening

I'm going as far as to say Joeckel will end up a joke in the NFL. The guy gets pushed around a lot, ends up on the ground a lot. I don't see how that translates into a "once in a decade guy"

I didn't watch a ton of aTm games, but it seemed like the ofense was if the first two reads are covered, then run. That would make a ton of left tackles look good.

By the time the draft rolls around......a QB will be talked about as a lock to go #1 and Joeckel won't be the #1 rated OT.

^^^^^^^^^^^

Very possible

ROFL



kane198t:
I've said it in a few other posts, and I will say it again here. Any team that looks to draft a "franchise QB", needs to make sure they have an O line that is in place and they need to have weapons for the QB to get the ball to. If KC drafts Smith, they better have gotten a true no. 2 WR, and they need help on the O line. they DO need help, regardless of what some of their fans are saying. When you have the number 1 pick, you MUST make the safe pick or trade down, do not use that pick on a Boom or Bust, or Risk factor type of player.

It's a ****ing lock.

The year Cam Newton was drafted.....the Panthers were mocked Da'Quan Bowers or Nick Fairley for months. The draft gets closer and Newton creeps up those boards until he's pretty much a lock at #1.

:clap:

No. EJ Manuel is a broke, homeless, dying man's Adrian McPhearson.



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I guarantee you that if we had traded into the #2 spot last year for RG3....there would have been a section of our fan base screaming to take Matt Kalil or Trent Richardson. This fan base is so ****ing scared to take a QB....especially a black one....that it's ****ing pathetic.

If that

Lets beef up that Oline and draft a RB. Get back to the glory years of 1992!

Seriously.....you know how I know this fan base is borderline racist?

They'd rather wait and draft Manziel. The kid isn't going to amount to shit in the NFL....but he's white and won the Heisman.

watched him very little

but i sense a consensus in this thread...lol

There, that should fix it.

Not Racist !

Manziel does not have a great arm and doesn't always make good decisions.

He had an unbelievable year, but he's going to come back to earth this season in a big way, IMO.

I don't like to wish my life away, but I can't wait until this ****ing draft is over with so that I don't have to read take upon take from dumbasses who think they have inside information.

I hope he gets killed in a car wreck driving home tonight.

The proper term is homeless man's [x].

"We must have a Pro-Bowler at every position on offense and defense. Only then can we even think about selecting a QB."

Heh

Heh, Now that he's got a season under his belt he will be able to cut loose and now that Joekel guy won't be in his way.

Just for kicks, I'm watching his snaps vs Bama and jesus, Joeckel is getting absolutely raped. I mean, Bama doesn't have an awesome 7-tech but Joeckel is getting his shit pushed in repeatedly by Hubbard? #42.

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It's pretty easy to look like a good LT when the DEs you're facing have to worry about containment instead of just rushing the QB.

Holy shit. Clay, please gif up 7:36. ROFL That is the next Ogden?

Joeckel gets his hands raped by 42 doing his best Tamba impersonation at 8:45 as well.

on NFL 32 just now talking to brain dawkins he said he expects andy to address the O-Line first and make our O-Line nasty and then work with cassel to get better and work on getting the ball out of cassel's hand sooner.

and **** ESPN

I watched them a bit and they talk about how Reid is gonna help Cassel because HE MADE THE PRO BOWL ONLY 2 YEARS AGO

they acting like Geno is gonna be a 2nd rounder, **** that. Wait for the combine. They'll see.

and drafting a tackle to replace an already good tackle DOESNT MAKE YOU ANY ****ING BETTER

**** that Cassel

**** that noise. Dawkins has been huffing too much shoe polish. Jesus tap dancing Christ...

Former players don't know shit about anything. This has been established.

Marcellus Wiley and Tedy Bruschi said a month ago that they liked the Andy Reid hire because he's a coach who can work with Matt Cassel and get him to play at a solid level.

Playing in the NFL doesn't necessarily mean you know about the NFL.

I am 100% on Andy working with Cassel to get the ball out of his hands sooner.

As in, right now.

Permanently.

Then he can work on getting Cassel out of the pocket. And the building.

And the state.

It does if the move the "good" (more like adequate) LT to G, where he might REALLY be something. Then whoever we get at QB will benefit especially said Franchise QB.

:clap:

Just goes to show that being a former player doesnt mean they know jack squat about a given team.

If he knew anything about KC, he'd know that the line really doesnt HAVE to change much if at all, it really only HAS to have competition and depth... and of course, for him to still be talking about Cassel? he clearly needs to go get a brain scan, because he's got damage.

Why don't you watch Joeckel play against Bama.

He is a legitimate downgrade from Albert.

Until Cassel is cut......all people will talk about is Andy working with Cassel. They won't mock us a QB until he's gone either.

When the college season had ended some were thinking about Teo, even if it was just Kiper and some true fans. That is all gone, and it isn't due to the scandal. True fans don't hold on to shit, they follow the wind. I have fallen into the trap now and then, but really we shouldn't be freaking out about any kind of stuff until the combine.

I did. You might be correct BUT wonder how he would be in a year or two? I bet he would be better across the board at LT than Albert was / is now if put against the same developmental time span. Just my take...

Meh you're missing one thing though. Guards are largely unimportant.

If they were, teams wouldn't routinely fill them with mid round selections in the draft every year.

Why is Matt still on the roster? Seriously, WHY IS MATT STILL ON THE ROSTER!

He's not moving to ****ing OG.....he already said it.

People can now shut the **** up about moving Albert to guard. It's not happening.

That's a very good point and one that will likely be overlooked.

I bet he'll never be as remotely as good as Ryan Kalil.

I'll be surprised if he ends up becoming as good of a pass blocker as Albert is now.

As good a pass blocker as Albert is now? I'm betting that you're gonna be surprised then. We'll re-vist this in a couple years.

I am going to be sick

I guess so.

Albert gave up 1 sack this year. ONE.

Shhh...let him live in fantasy land where Joeckel becomes the king of tackles. Ogden 2.0 baby!!!

Words can't describe how bad of a pick Jekyll would be.

It would be a waste of 3 draft picks.

1. The first overall pick.
2. Last year's 3rd rounder. (Donald Stephenson)
3. 2008's 1st rounder. (Branden Albert)

*shudder*

*pukes*

*wipes mouth, see's Pests post and pukes again*

It's beyond ****ing stupid that we even have to talk about drafting a LT at #1 overall.

EVEN if you are of the belief that Albert isn't worth the new contract. We've got Stephenson....who was at least average in limited playing time last season. Give him an entire offseason and season to see if he has it. If he doesn't.....draft a LT next year.

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Turn your rep on, buddy. I want to give you a secret message.

ROFL

I'll even give you a hint.


(It's rape!)

Jeez. That post you quoted makes me want to jump off my roof into a vat of AIDS acid.

How far away is the draft?