Maryville teen allegedly raped by football player
 

And wasn't prosecuted (probably) because the rapist's family was politically connected. There's no excuse for at least statutory under the facts as presented. Also. dude should probably avoid saying rape-y things on social media if he's still within the statute of limitations.

http://gawker.com/family-gets-driven...23656/@Tom_Ley

All these gun enthusiasts posting here, and yet no one has the guts...

Rape is only funny when SNR makes jokes about it.

The alleged rapist's grandfather served on the Public Safety-Law Enforcement committee, Criminal Law committee, and the appropriations committees for both. That's practically a license to rape.

that sucks but can you have statutory if everyone involved were minors? It certainly appears that this girl and her mom are being targeted by the community as a whole and that these young men are being enabled to act irresponsibly and with no consequences.

Blame the parents of the perps. Period. End of story. Prosecute the parents for this crap and it will stop happening

I'm so very very tired of arguing this point with other people. But how else will justice be served?

Prosecute the parents who allowed these minors to drink too.

End of story and if you don't agree, kindly piss off.

Not saying rape is okay. It clearly is not. But what the hell is a 14 year old doing at a party, and why the hell did she get black out drunk? We can talk peer pressure, but no one made her get drunk (unless we're talking roofie drunk).

Back in college, I can remember false calls of rape happening a lot. Girls get drunk, sleep with someone they wouldn't normally sleep with, then cry rape the day after. Happened to a mate of mine. Nearly ruined his life as well. Then the girls story unraveled and she admitted finally that it was consensual.

Anyways, clearly a 14 year old shouldn't be out partying and drinking and getting drunk. You're just asking for trouble. Strong parenting.

You can prosecute the parents with a fine of some sort for their kids drinking underage. But I honestly think our laws are too leniant on minors. You make a dumb decision as a "minor", you should face the same consequences as if you were an adult.

Is murder any lesser of a crime because the person who murdered was under the age of 18? If you do the crime, you face the same punishment regardless of your age. That is the way it should be anyways.

I don't know the case law, but the statute for 1st degree statutory just mentions the vic's age, not the perp.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5660000032.HTM

So she was asking to be raped. Got it.

You must have also missed the part about the confessions by the rapist in this case.

That tweet isn't rapey at all.
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This is a really sad story about how the local community seems to have rallied around the rapists instead of the victims.

The story clearly says the alleged perp is 17 so um, yah.

Typically I'm with you on this. But I don't think it's particularly common for the sheriff to so publicly and vehemently disagree with the prosecutor.

Prosecute the perps enabling parents.

And your point is????

I don't think you understand ****all about foreseeability and negligence.

I'm sure that you led a responsible, thoughtful and squeaky-clean life when you were a young teenager. Not. She was at a party because she's a teenage girl who wants to make friends and appear cool to her peers. She got blackout drunk because she has no idea how to drink responsibly yet.

It's scientific fact that people of that age haven't fully developed emotionally, mentally or physically, so I don't see the logic in expecting them to act as if they have.

Read the article.

1. She was dumped off on her front lawn in freezing weather. That doesn't scream consensual anything.

2. They confessed.

I like how you make it all about her though. Those poor guys... they're the REAL victims huh?

that when the rape allegedly happened the perp was 17 years of age or younger right? He was possibly 16? So he was under the age of 18 which is when a minor becomes a major or am I wrong?

Holding children as accountable as adults is the 2nd dumbest thing you've posted on this thread.

I think I've figured out the problem.

It's you.

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I don't anybody would claim she didn't use poor judgement in terms of putting herself in a bad situation but that's aside to a bunch of kids from well connected families potentially getting away w/ multiple felonies.

Star article said he was 17. Not only was he above the age of consent, there's nothing in the MO statute (that I'm aware of) preventing a minor from being prosecuted for statutory. It's probably exceedingly rare, though.

So tired of arguing this point, so very tired of it...

But he was below the age of being able to legally drink? MO is stupid.

there is wrong all over this deal. However, if I'm the mother of rapist boy, hes getting his ball shot off at some point

At the very least making or possessing a video tape of a 13 or 14 year old girl having sex would be child pornography. High School seniors have no business banging 13 year old girls.

Small town values, amirite!! They need to Dresden that town.

The girl may be a little void of strong parenting, but not necessarily due to neglect. Unless I'm confusing two stories, my wife told me her dad was a doctor who died not too long ago in a car wreck. This is so sad.

Ya the article mentions that.

And her mother was a vet. It's not like she came from an obviously dysfunctional family background.

I don't know anything about this case. However...whenever nearly everyone involved in a situation like this is on one side, and an article is published that makes it seem like all of those people are out of their minds...generally, there is a lot more to the story.

Is it more likely that an entire community is cool with raping a young girl OR is it more likely that a single reporter is trying to break a huge story by selectively including/omitting critical details?

Which has ****all to do with statutory rape.

I would say the Sheiffs comments seem to paint a pretty good picture that they thought they had a pretty good case.. They had video/confessions/Sheriffs stating it was a air tight case. I remember hearing about this awhile back, but never heard anyone defending the rapist.

This is the same area where a man was shot in broad daylight with over 30 witnesses and no one was ever prosecuted because the witnesses wouldn't speak.

This is also the same area where a pregnant woman was murdered, and the baby was cut out of her.

Maryville and the towns that surround it are filled with weird people.

I'm saying the state laws are stupid. If he can be persecuted for statutory that great, do it! But the town let him walk. I'm saying that if he is a minor in the legal sense, that is, below the age of 18 which is where most if not all the people in the US say is when a minor becomes an adult, then go after his parents too.

I smell bullshit, there is no woman on earth under the age of 80 named "Daisy".

Both of those incidents happened in Skidmore Missouri. Bobbie Jo wasn't kidnapped, but murdered in her own home. McElroy got what was coming to him from a community that was terrorized by him and his family

You didn't read the story, but people like you that blame the rape victim for being raped can DIAF.

One my best friends worked as a part time deputy sheriff in Nodaway County while he getting his degree at NWMSU. His opinion of the locals was not good.

So there was more to each of those stories than what a one-sided comment included?

You got it brother.

Real person.

http://kcur.org/post/why-was-maryvil...e-case-dropped

I've ready about this story after it happened since Maryville and St. Joe have some ties Maryville shit gets reported down here. The facts haven't changed in the last 2 years one bit as far as I've read.

I'm not sure what more there might be.

That’s when Melinda Coleman called 911, setting off a law enforcement response that Nodaway County Sheriff Darren White is proud of, saying they had the boys’ “videotaped confessions” wrapped up that day.




Nodaway County Sheriff Darren White outside the jail in Maryville, Mo
“I was actually pretty happy with it because we had what I considered to be a very serious crime and within a matter of a few hours, we had warrants for their arrest and they'd been arrested,” he said. “That's a pretty good day.”

In Missouri, 17-year-olds are considered to be adults in the criminal justice system. So Barnett was charged with a felony for sexual assault and a misdemeanor for child endangerment. The underage boy with Daisy’s friend also admitted he forced her into sex and was charged in the juvenile system.

I changed the kidnapped to murdered. I said the same area because Skidmore and Maryville are about 15 minutes apart and both in the middle of no where.

The people of the Nodaway County in Missouri are creepy ****ing people.

It's sort of like Deliverance placed in Missouri.

Anonymous picked up the story.

http://pastebin.com/3rq0ZSrY

She snuck out. Her mom did not know. She got herself in a bad situation. She doesn't deserve to be raped. It's not like she went to a party suggestively dressed and dry humping everyone in the place. Which still doesn't make rape OK, but this doesn't even rise to the level of her "asking for it".

She was also dumped in sub-freezing temps. I can't imagine doing that to someone.

It's stories like these that make me glad I don't have a daughter.

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The guy who texted Daisy was Barnett, a friend of Daisy’s older brother, Charlie, who had been at the Coleman’s a couple nights before for a chili dinner. Barnett drove over to the Colemans, picked up Daisy and her friend and, along with some other boys, snuck into Barnett’s home through a basement window. There, Daisy continued drinking, using a glass that has since become infamous. “They called it the ‘bitch cup,’” Daisy Coleman said, “and it’s a really, really tall shot glass. I think it had lines. Like, if you drank that much, you were some rank or whatever. Like, you’re a B-word if you only take half of it."

The ****ing guy is a predator. Totally premeditated. What a scumbag.

If I was this girls older brother, I'd be hanging around the Central Missouri campus looking for a little justice.

And let's be real - these scumbags raped a ninth and eighth grader after intentionally getting them drunk enough to pass out. ****ing dirtbags.

That crossed my mind when I read about the house being burned down, because that takes a lot of hate even beyond blaming the victim.... but, the story on kansascity.com is pretty damn detailed and video doesn't lie.

I don't think it's really a matter of "an entire community being cool with rape," since the article says it's sparked outrage in the community. I don't think it's hard to imagine a football star telling lies, spreading rumors, etc; to the point that at least part of the school sides with the popular kids. I read somewhere else that the 17 year old has also had other charges dropped in the past, too.

You could very well be right, but unless some of the details in the article are flat out wrong, it certainly seems like a teenage girl waking up on a lawn with a BAC of .17 (or whatever it was) in 40 degree temps and video of the incident warrants more of an explanation than "lack of evidence".

Prior DUI, I think.

If she was passed out you don't **** her.
Period.

14 year old girls, alcohol, athletes. Mix. Enjoy.

I would love to see some street justice here.

Having lived in Maryville for 4 years I'm only a little surprised. Doesn't stop me from being disgusted though. This is the perfect confluence of rape culture and small-town crooked politics. Horrific.

Was the girls mother's house burned down or is it referring to McElroy's house, which burned several months after he was executed.

Alleged rape vic's house.

Yeah, that one... they moved before selling their house in Maryville, and it burned down. The article said it was investigated but the cause wasn't determined.

It's disgusting enough to blame the victim and cover up something like that, but then to go after them by firing the mom and burn down the house they lived in (and I'm sure the girls had a pleasant time in school, too)... holy shit.

Well I do have a daughter. She is 12 right now. I am preparing myself for prison, because if anything ever happens to her............. I would skin these little asswipes slowly.

MOAR!!!

I love anon, and I hope they are able to do something substantial.

I would also like to hear from some of our legal gurus on the board.

Paging Dj's left nut.

That may have been a good thing if they were making payments on it and the community refused to buy it.

The work that offshoot group did with the Steubenville case was amazing.

This is not funny and I'm not trying to joke about it...but I'm on my phone and the title was cut off to read 'Maryville Teen Allegedly Raped by Football.' That seemed painful.

Saying someone made bad decisions doesn't mean you're blaming them.

Saying a woman shouldn't walk in a dark parking lot alone at night doesn't mean you're blaming her if she gets mugged.

True, but when he added this part it sounded a whole lot like he didn't have much sympathy for her and stopped just short of saying it was her fault.

"Back in college, I can remember false calls of rape happening a lot. Girls get drunk, sleep with someone they wouldn't normally sleep with, then cry rape the day after. Happened to a mate of mine. Nearly ruined his life as well. Then the girls story unraveled and she admitted finally that it was consensual."

this dad of 4 girls would be in prison right about now for blowing his head off.

I'll take a stab at it. Consensual sex requires capacity to consent, and this girl's BAL was .13 in the morning (probably at least 8-10 hours after the party). Extrapolating back to when the alleged rape occurred, I think a tox expert could credibly testify that she was either passed out or so drunk as to be unable to meaningfully consent. She was probably somewhere around a .20 to .25, which is pretty ****ed up for a 14 year old girl. Again, keep in mind I don't know when the rape occurred or when she was tested.

Apparently there's a loophole in the current law, however, where that incapacity has to be caused only by the perp. In this case, she clearly had a role in her incapacity

http://barnesformissouri.com/?p=935

So, I'm back to my original assessment that a properly motivated prosecutor should at least have gotten a statutory conviction/plea. The perp's grandfather was retired highway patrol, so my guess is a few favors were called in.

:thumb:

Thanks.

I wonder if this didn't have more to do with their place as football players or just as popular kids than local politics. Who knows.

I went to college there and have several local friends. I guarantee the entire community doesn't approve of this or support it.

Tons of fellow bearcats on this board it seems.

Why were they silent? Why didn't anybody stand up for this girl?

All 3, since he was a popular football player with political ties in his family, and (supposedly) favors were called in to get the charges dropped, as they had been in the past for the same kid.

Hmmm...

http://www.yelp.com/biz/a-g-restaurant-maryville

I hate little shitty small towns.

Well hopefully anomyous and the internets will make his life hell..

The only thing that sucks is he has a generic name.. A lot of innocent people might get dirt dug up because of this..

Well, knowing where the two go to school and where they are from, and their ages within a year or two should help with that.

Looks like they've hit UCM's FB site pretty hard, too...

https://www.facebook.com/UCentralMO

...and it's just beginning.