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DaneMcCloud 11-09-2012 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9102717)
Lo'fing L at you Vermieil haters. They made no bones about what they were about. They said "We're gonna make a 3 year run at this." They had a shot in 2003. That was their big year. Everyone knew it. If you didn't, your fault.

I don't see how anyone can criticize Vermeil in the draft. They sold out for free agency. That was their draft. They had no intention of drafting well.

This regime, it's garbage. It's horrendous. I've never seen a regime draft as poorly as Vermeil and acquire leftovers Iike Steadman.

Pioli should go down in the annals of football history as one of the worst GMs in history. Easily the worst Chiefs GM.
This makes no sense.

chiefs1111 11-09-2012 11:27 PM
There are only two Vermiel! draft picks currently on this team and one of them is a punter. Screw him

Phobia 11-09-2012 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 9102744)
There are only two Vermiel! draft picks currently on this team and one of them is a punter. Screw him
Check every NFL roster going back 8 years and see how many are left.

bobbything 11-09-2012 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9102743)
This makes no sense.
Nonsense.

BossChief 11-09-2012 11:42 PM
Only 7 first round picks from the 2005 draft are still with their original team.

DaneMcCloud 11-09-2012 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9102771)
Check every NFL roster going back 8 years and see how many are left.
Ben Rothlisberger, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers.

Amirite?

tk13 11-09-2012 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9102627)
I'd like to know the real reason Gunther was re-hired as the teams DC.

Its not like he was a Dick Vermiel hire and after the whole internet firing from Carl Peterson, it probably wasn't his call either. That decision right there probably kept the 2003 and 2005 Chiefs teams from being superbowl contenders. Id like to know who I owe a big old kick in the balls to.
It's gotta be Carl all the way down the line. Notice how Vermeil got run out of town but Gunther stayed behind and was forced on Herm too.

And then when he left, Gunther threw both of them under the bus and complained about their philosophies being different. It was what it was... Carl went all-in on a last shot at winning it all. Except when DV left, he hung around for some reason and took the fall.

bricks 11-09-2012 11:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 9102717)
Lo'fing L at you Vermieil haters. They made no bones about what they were about. They said "We're gonna make a 3 year run at this." They had a shot in 2003. That was their big year. Everyone knew it. If you didn't, your fault.

I don't see how anyone can criticize Vermeil in the draft. They sold out for free agency. That was their draft.They had no intention of drafting well.

This regime, it's garbage. It's horrendous. I've never seen a regime draft as poorly as Vermeil and acquire leftovers Iike Steadman.

Pioli should go down in the annals of football history as one of the worst GMs in history. Easily the worst Chiefs GM.
That was one thing I really liked about that regime. They found some real steals in FA.

Priest, Kennison, Wiegmann and even acquiring T Green in a trade was a solid move.

As much as DVs draft were poor, at least he drafted Jared Allen and DJ. I give him some props for that.

DaneMcCloud 11-10-2012 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 9102798)
That was one thing I really liked about that regime. They found some real steals in FA.

Priest, Kennison, Wiegmann and even acquiring T Green in a trade was a solid move.

As much as DVs draft were poor, at least he drafted Jared Allen and DJ. I give him some props for that.
Steals?

LMAO

Priest Holmes was dumped by a Super Bowl team after two ACL surgeries. Kennison was dumped MID SEASON. Weigmann was a backup center.

Also, Vermeil expected Richardson to be the starter with Priest as a 3rd down back.

JFC, are you people THIS out of the loop?

Furthermore, you ****ing DUMBASS, they missed on how many defensive free agents? A dozen? How about guys like Snoop Minnis? Bigfoot? etc. and so on.

Shut the **** up.

BossChief 11-10-2012 12:28 AM
How can one argue that those guys weren't steals?

They were.

DaneMcCloud 11-10-2012 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9102853)
How can one argue that those guys weren't steals?

They were.
Steals? They were castoffs.

And for good reason.

And even then, Vermeil didn't know what the **** to do with them until weeks into the season.

Tony Richardson starting over Holmes? LMAO

Phobia 11-10-2012 12:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bricks (Post 9102798)
That was one thing I really liked about that regime. They found some real steals in FA.

Priest, Kennison, Wiegmann and even acquiring T Green in a trade was a solid move.

As much as DVs draft were poor, at least he drafted Jared Allen and DJ. I give him some props for that.
Giving a 1st round pick for a player who has no other suitors is not a solid move. You want to give him credit for a solid trade then Roaf is the one to talk about.

bobbything 11-10-2012 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9102843)
Steals?

LMAO

Priest Holmes was dumped by a Super Bowl team after two ACL surgeries. Kennison was dumped MID SEASON. Weigmann was a backup center.

Also, Vermeil expected Richardson to be the starter with Priest as a 3rd down back.

JFC, are you people THIS out of the loop?

Furthermore, you ****ing DUMBASS, they missed on how many defensive free agents? A dozen? How about guys like Snoop Minnis? Bigfoot? etc. and so on.

Shut the **** up.
Wait...wut? Are, or are you not, saying they were steals. Cuz it sounds like they are, but you're arguing they're not...but really are.

I'm cun****ed.

Phobia 11-10-2012 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9102855)
Steals? They were castoffs.

And for good reason.

And even then, Vermeil didn't know what the **** to do with them until weeks into the season.

Tony Richardson starting over Holmes? LMAO
I'm with you. Holmes has good numbers here. He was a patient back with good vision. He made a ton of cash because he was running behind arguably one of the best offensive lines assembled in the history of the NFL. I'd hate to see the guy behind this line. Nike wouldn't even manufacture a #31 jersey.

DaneMcCloud 11-10-2012 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9102853)
How can one argue that those guys weren't steals?

They were.
Trading the #12 overall pick for Trent Green was not a "steal", especially given that Drew Brees was on the board.

The Chiefs under Vermeil were a "Get Rich Quick" scheme.

And it failed miserably.


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