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Saul Good 02-03-2012 08:59 AM

Heard from a teacher in Shawnee Mission today that it's "wear your favorit college team gear" today because of the MU/KU game. Evidently there is a much larger Mizzou following this year than in past years. Doesn't really mean much, but I thought it was interesting to hear that about a school 30 minutes from Lawrence.

Bambi 02-03-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8345316)
Heard from a teacher in Shawnee Mission today that it's "wear your favorit college team gear" today because of the MU/KU game. Evidently there is a much larger Mizzou following this year than in past years. Doesn't really mean much, but I thought it was interesting to hear that about a school 30 minutes from Lawrence.

Sounds like lots of people from Missouri have moved to Kansas after realizing how much better of a place to live it is... just like you.

Saul Good 02-03-2012 09:58 AM

That must be.

Bambi 02-03-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8345446)
That must be.

But to your point I always thought it was really strange ever since I was born that whenever I was on the Missouri side of the line (Chiefs games, Royals games, the Plaza, Crown Center, etc etc) all I saw was KU gear.

Pants 02-03-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8345316)
Heard from a teacher in Shawnee Mission today that it's "wear your favorit college team gear" today because of the MU/KU game. Evidently there is a much larger Mizzou following this year than in past years. Doesn't really mean much, but I thought it was interesting to hear that about a school 30 minutes from Lawrence.

So instead of 2 students wearing MU colors, there were 6? I remember a girl in highschool who wanted to be a photographer and was going to go to the MU J-school, the rest were on their way to KU/KSU. There were those who were going to good schools as well, but they were the tiny minority.

Frazod 02-03-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8345509)
But to your point I always thought it was really strange ever since I was born that whenever I was on the Missouri side of the line (Chiefs games, Royals games, the Plaza, Crown Center, etc etc) all I saw was KU gear.

I guess that tells you where all the good stuff is, doesn't it?

Hey Ethel, we could stay home and watch the ****ing wheat sway in the breeze, or go to Missouri and do something interesting!

kepp 02-03-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8345547)
I guess that tells you where all the good stuff is, doesn't it?

Hey Ethel, we could stay home and watch the ****ing wheat sway in the breeze, or go to Missouri and do something interesting!

"Hey! We could imitate the wheat! It could become a tradition."

Bambi 02-03-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 8345548)
"Hey! We could imitate the wheat! It could become a tradition."

Well you need to do SOMETHING when you score and win all the time...

Saul Good 02-03-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8345540)
So instead of 2 students wearing MU colors, there were 6? I remember a girl in highschool who wanted to be a photographer and was going to go to the MU J-school, the rest were on their way to KU/KSU. There were those who were going to good schools as well, but they were the tiny minority.

That's been the case at this school. Evidently it was around 5-1 last year but less than 2:1 this year. The exact e-mail quote was "actually pretty equal". I'm guessing a lot of it can be attributed to Mizzou's success this year compared to last year at this time.

The university has grown by 45% in the last decade, and the school has been considering capping enrollment. KU's enrollment has been in decline for several years now since peaking immediately after the Orange Bowl season.

It's no coincidence. Football success does a lot for the popularity of schools.

Pants 02-03-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8345592)
That's been the case at this school. Evidently it was around 5-1 last year but less than 2:1 this year. The exact e-mail quote was "actually pretty equal". I'm guessing a lot of it can be attributed to Mizzou's success this year compared to last year at this time.

The university has grown by 45% in the last decade, and the school has been considering capping enrollment. KU's enrollment has been in decline for several years now since peaking immediately after the Orange Bowl season.

It's no coincidence. Football success does a lot for the popularity of schools.

I think the number one thing is how many "in state" kids there are. Other things might matter, but not nearly to that extent. I have no idea why KU's enrollment is down, it could be due to football or maybe KSU is pulling more in or it could be some other factors. I just know that if it's between going to an instate school and paying 12k/year (or whatever it is now) and going to an out of state school and paying 20k+ a year, a lot of kids are going to go with instate. That's just the way it is.

Bambi 02-03-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8345606)
I think the number one thing is how many "in state" kids there are. Other things might matter, but not nearly to that extent. I have no idea why KU's enrollment is down, it could be due to football or maybe KSU is pulling more in or it could be some other factors. I just know that if it's between going to an instate school and paying 12k/year (or whatever it is now) and going to an out of state school and paying 20k+ a year, a lot of kids are going to go with instate. That's just the way it is.

MU has like 3k more students than Kansas.

Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

The state has 8 MILLION people in it. Kansas has less than 3. AND has to split the state with another BCS level school.

Thank God the KU enrollment has slowed. That school was about to explode.

Saul Good 02-03-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8345606)
I think the number one thing is how many "in state" kids there are. Other things might matter, but not nearly to that extent. I have no idea why KU's enrollment is down, it could be due to football or maybe KSU is pulling more in or it could be some other factors. I just know that if it's between going to an instate school and paying 12k/year (or whatever it is now) and going to an out of state school and paying 20k+ a year, a lot of kids are going to go with instate. That's just the way it is.

True, but those things have always been part of the equation. It didn't suddenly become the case. Mizzou is actually slightly more expensive and has more strict admission guidelines.

Mizzou is among the fastest growing universities in the country.

Saul Good 02-03-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8345637)
MU has like 3k more students than Kansas.

Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

The state has 8 MILLION people in it. Kansas has less than 3. AND has to split the state with another BCS level school.

Thank God the KU enrollment has slowed. That school was about to explode.

You should tell that to the university officials. They will be relieved to learn that declining enrollment is a good thing. They've even gone as far as to upping recruitment efforts in order to reduce the trend. I'm sure you know better than Bernadette, though.

K-State could be the largest school in Kansas by the end of the decade. If you remove Edwards campus and the med center, they actually just surpassed KU. As it is, K-State has narrowed the gap to under 5,000 after being 6,000 just a year ago.

Bambi 02-03-2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8345659)
You should tell that to the university officials. They will be relieved to learn that declining enrollment is a good thing. They've even gone as far as to upping recruitment efforts in order to reduce the trend. I'm sure you know better than Bernadette, though.

K-State could be the largest school in Kansas by the end of the decade. If you remove Edwards campus and the med center, they actually just surpassed KU. As it is, K-State has narrowed the gap to under 5,000 after being 6,000 just a year ago.

I believe they set a freshman enrollment record 4 years ago.

Sure it is down since then. Hence the term "record".

The article I read stated that the drop in enrollment is mostly because of less kids in Kansas high schools. Most likely because of the drop in certain places in the country with having children.

Lower income areas of the country are seeing booms in population. Not sure this is the case in Kansas. The population is pretty steady. Never rising and falling very much.

Setting the record for most football and basketball victories by an NCAA Division 1 program in 2008 probably helped set the enrollment record.

But when you reach that high there really isn't anywhere to go but down.

Saul Good 02-03-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8345680)
I believe they set a freshman enrollment record 4 years ago.

Sure it is down since then. Hence the term "record".

The article I read stated that the drop in enrollment is mostly because of less kids in Kansas high schools. Most likely because of the drop in certain places in the country with having children.

Lower income areas of the country are seeing booms in population. Not sure this is the case in Kansas. The population is pretty steady. Never rising and falling very much.

Setting the record for most football and basketball victories by an NCAA Division 1 program in 2008 probably helped set the enrollment record.

But when you reach that high there really isn't anywhere to go but down.

I guess Turner Gill is a hero, then. Without him, the school might have exploded.


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