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Gadzooks 01-12-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9311334)
Hes shown this year that he is a franchise QB. He isnt Brady, but hes Matt Ryan, hes Trent Green.

When was Trent Green ever considered a "franchise" QB?!?

BTW - Flacco made himself a lot of $$$ today.

crossbow 01-12-2013 08:37 PM

That game tying TD was cool. He had to step up to avoid the sack and he fired off a strike between two corners.

SAUTO 01-12-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9311393)
To all the people voting yes, would you trade our #1 pick for him?

No.

But if we draft a defensive lineman or a tackle I reserve the right to flip flop.

If we take Geno Smith I'm taking him
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hometeam 01-12-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9311412)
When was Trent Green ever considered a "franchise" QB?!?

BTW - Flacco made himself a lot of $$$ today.



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With a third consecutive 4,000 yard season, Green joins Drew Bledsoe, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Warren Moon, and Tony Romo as the only quarterbacks in NFL history to pass for more than 4,000 yards in three or more seasons during their careers
He had several very productive years here, and even though he had more picks than TD's his first year, still threw for over 3700 yards. Trent Green wasnt a great QB, but he was the entry level franchise QB, same as Flacco.

chiefzilla1501 01-12-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9311204)
Good enough to take a team to a SB (and win it) and provides long-term, high-quality stability at the QB position.

Not elite, but because of all of the above qualities, I will define him as a franchise QB.

I would agree with you here on many fronts. Except I'd replace your first sentence with "Good enough to take a GOOD SUPPORTING CAST to a SB...."

But also agree with how you separated "franchise" from "elite." There are about 4-5 elite QBs in the league in any era, and no team should beat themselves up for not finding them. Flacco isn't in that category and I don't think he ever will be.

RJ 01-12-2013 08:47 PM

He was a Lee Evans drop from playing in the Super Bowl last year. So, yeah.

DeezNutz 01-12-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9311528)
I would agree with you here on many fronts. Except I'd replace your first sentence with "Good enough to take a GOOD SUPPORTING CAST to a SB...."

But also agree with how you separated "franchise" from "elite." There are about 4-5 elite QBs in the league in any era, and no team should beat themselves up for not finding them. Flacco isn't in that category and I don't think he ever will be.

That's fair. He's an unusual case in that he doesn't need to be carried, but he's not going to carry a team consistently, either.

chiefzilla1501 01-12-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9311393)
To all the people voting yes, would you trade our #1 pick for him?

No. I would rather swing for the fences and try to find our elite QB. Reid is a guy who loves to pass the ball a ton. I don't know that I'd trust Flacco in an unbalanced offense.

Imon Yourside 01-12-2013 08:48 PM

Never been a fan, and wouldn't want him on my team but it's hard to argue against the guy. He's more clutch than PM ever was.

Setsuna 01-12-2013 08:50 PM

23 people in here are flat out snake bit after Trent Green to vote "Yes"

chiefzilla1501 01-12-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9311412)
When was Trent Green ever considered a "franchise" QB?!?

BTW - Flacco made himself a lot of $$$ today.

Trent Green was absolutely a franchise QB. Elite? No. Franchise, yes.

You put him on Baltimore's team with Flacco's supporting cast, and I bet he'd be every bit as successful as Flacco has been.

JD10367 01-12-2013 08:52 PM

Flacco is very good, but not great. He threw some deep balls today that had no right being caught. Today was more about horrible pass D than Flacco being a franchise QB.

If Flacco can go on the road and beat the Patriots or Texans, and be one of the major factors, maybe I'll change my mind.

DeezNutz 01-12-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9311569)
Trent Green was absolutely a franchise QB. Elite? No. Franchise, yes.

You put him on Baltimore's team with Flacco's supporting cast, and I bet he'd be every bit as successful as Flacco has been.

He was not a franchise QB because of his short time with the team. Not enough years.

AussieChiefsFan 01-12-2013 08:58 PM

Well his success is undeniable

hometeam 01-12-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9311575)
He was not a franchise QB because of his short time with the team. Not enough years.

Flacco has only had one more year, and they have comparable numbers except for Greens massive advantage in yardage. Trent was a fledgling franchise QB whos career was ended with a massive concussion.

Flacco is a fledgling franchise QB with a defense, hence the playoff wins. I think they are very comparable at this point in Flaccos carreer


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