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teedubya 03-09-2011 11:58 AM
Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Mitch Hedberg, Pryor & other funny ones who've passed on.
 
I love Bill Hicks. He is my favorite all time comedian. Carlin, Pryor and Hedberg are up there, as well.

All of the good ones, are dead, it seems... yet Carlos Mencia and Dane Cook are perfectly healthy.

Here is a set by Bill Hicks that David Letterman banned from his show about 16 years ago. I'd never seen this set until moments ago. Solid stuff.

Feel free to post some of the funniest bits from your favorite comedians that are no longer with us. We could all use a laugh, right?

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Discuss Thrower 03-09-2011 12:01 PM
Sam Kinison or GTFO.

gblowfish 03-09-2011 12:09 PM
Hicks was a brilliant political satirist and way ahead of his time. If he had lived, I could easily see him on the Daily Show, much the same role that Lewis Black has now.

Carlin was a master of wordplay. His vocabulary skills were unreal.

Pryor was supposed to be Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles, but the studios were afraid to cast him. He ended up writing many of the funnies bits in the movie with Mel Brooks.

Hedberg was a great observational comic, and had a funky delivery. It was his own unique style, much like Stephen Wright has his own unique deadpan style.

I personally miss Rodney Dangerfield. He had a great life, and IMHO, was the greatest standup to ever live.

Greg Giraldo was good, but not in the class with these guys.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7476820)
Hicks was a brilliant political satirist and way ahead of his time. If he had lived, I could easily see him on the Daily Show, much the same role that Lewis Black has now.

Carlin was a master of wordplay. His vocabulary skills were unreal.

Pryor was supposed to be Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles, but the studios were afraid to cast him. He ended up writing many of the funnies bits in the movie with Mel Brooks.

Hedberg was a great observational comic, and had a funky delivery. It was his own unique style, much like Stephen Wright has his own unique deadpan style.

I personally miss Rodney Dangerfield. He had a great life, and IMHO, was the greatest standup to ever live.

Greg Giraldo was good, but not in the class with these guys.
I loved Hedberg's delivery; he was one of my favorites.

My problem with Hicks was never his politics. It's that he was so damn dark. I understand that you have a message and I am well aware that it's not a perfect world - but I have a hard time with comedians that take everything so seriously and are so prone to going into some pretty sinister places.

I don't think he'd have been Jon Stewart. I see him becoming more like Bill Maher. Maher was funny at one point in his career, but now he's just kind of a bloviating shithead that takes himself entirely too seriously.

Lzen 03-09-2011 12:16 PM
I loved the older Carlin. Was just looking at his old sets the other day.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 12:17 PM
Hedberg is vastly overrated.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7476845)
Hedberg is vastly overrated.
He's unquestionably not for everyone.

I think Pryor's fairly overrated myself. His best bits are great; I don't recall the name of the special after he set himself on fire, but it was brilliant. Unfortunately, the vast majority of his bits are just saying "pussy" a lot and being crass for the sake of being crass. It's not funny, it's just vulgar. Dane Cook tries to pass off talking fast and loud as being funny - well Pryor was often content with passing off cussing and using exaggerated inflection as comedy.

I love Carlin, I like Kennison, but Pryor just grates on me because it's just the same thing over and over again.

Everyone's different w/ comedy, I certainly won't begrudge anyone for not liking Hedberg.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 12:21 PM
Carlin is probably my all time fav.

Bill Hicks is unfunny.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 12:24 PM
I actually liked Richard Jeni:

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teedubya 03-09-2011 12:35 PM
It's been confirmed that BCD has questionable comic tastes. heh. He hates Hedberg and Hicks? Damn.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!

Donger 03-09-2011 12:39 PM
I remember watching Hicks' performance on Dangerfield's show and thinking how different he was from the others. IIRC, Robert Schimmel (RIP), Dice Clay and a few others that went to become "famous" were on that same show.

Lzen 03-09-2011 12:40 PM
Old Carlin

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MOhillbilly 03-09-2011 12:43 PM
Pryor & Cosby are my all time favorites. Had a stack of comedy records in grade school. Loved em.

Favorite Pryor - the mafia nws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQE_pGaGTYk

Cosby - chicken heart
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwF2d8QyvU

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vPimtcK3-A

Deberg_1990 03-09-2011 12:44 PM
I wish Eddie Murphy would return to R rated standup....sigh...
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BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7476883)
It's been confirmed that BCD has questionable comic tastes. heh. He hates Hedberg and Hicks? Damn.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!
Hell, a lot of people like Cook and Mencia. Those guys were funny for all of 2 minutes. To each his own.
My current favorites are: Daniel Tosh, Louis CK, and Mike Birbiglia.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7476894)
Pryor & Cosby are my all time favorites. Had a stack of comedy records in grade school. Loved em.

Favorite Pryor - the mafia nws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQE_pGaGTYk

Cosby - chicken heart
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwF2d8QyvU

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vPimtcK3-A
Cosby's my favorite as well.

Though it seems odd to have those 2 as your favorites - they couldn't be more different, really.

Lzen 03-09-2011 12:48 PM
Carlin in the latter years was a little too political and a little too angry for me. He definitely changed. But he still had his moments. I enjoyed this one.

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MOhillbilly 03-09-2011 12:49 PM
I like RAC & HipHop. variety is the spice of life and i want it all bruv.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7476897)
I wish Eddie Murphy would return to R rated standup....sigh...
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You know, as much as he has struggled to not make a POS movie, you'd think he'd try this.

johnny961 03-09-2011 12:51 PM
Carlin rocked. So did Dangerfield.

Donger 03-09-2011 12:52 PM
Schimmel at Dangerfield's. Most definitely NSFW:

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Mr. Plow 03-09-2011 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 7476794)
Here is a set by Bill Hicks that David Letterman banned from his show about 16 years ago. I'd never seen this set until moments ago. Solid stuff.

I think I know why he never showed it.

mcaj22 03-09-2011 12:57 PM
so what was actually wrong with that Hicks video on Letterman? I didnt know that video was modern Letterman looking back on it until the end (I skipped the beginning with the older lady).

At the end Letterman himself couldnt even justify why it was banned especially by todays standards. Was that Letterman indirectly admitted he might have been a douchebag 16 years ago lol?

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2011 12:57 PM
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ClevelandBronco 03-09-2011 01:01 PM
If you haven't heard Hicks' "Dark Poet," get your ears around it some time. It's painful but fascinating to hear the man try to work against a crowd that clearly can't stand his presence.

Frazod 03-09-2011 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7476860)
I actually liked Richard Jeni:

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Good call. He was one of my favorites. He and Brad Delp (lead singer of Boston) killed themselves a day apart a couple of years ago. That was a shitty weekend. :(

Thig Lyfe 03-09-2011 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 7476894)
Pryor & Cosby are my all time favorites. Had a stack of comedy records in grade school. Loved em.

Favorite Pryor - the mafia nws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQE_pGaGTYk

Cosby - chicken heart
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhwF2d8QyvU

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vPimtcK3-A
Bill Cosby died?!?!?! :( :( :(

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7476955)
Good call. He was one of my favorites. He and Brad Delp (lead singer of Boston) killed themselves a day apart a couple of years ago. That was a shitty weekend. :(
I think you meant to post this in the Weber thread.

(Too soon?)

Thig Lyfe 03-09-2011 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7476901)
Louis CK
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Frazod 03-09-2011 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7476897)
I wish Eddie Murphy would return to R rated standup....sigh...
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I think the problem with Eddie Murphy is that he's such a complete uptight prick now that he simply doesn't want to deal with the "little people," and that includes performing in front of them. I don't even know if he could connect with an audience anymore. His last stand up show, Raw, wasn't nearly as good as his first two, and it was mainly just a two hour rant about him getting ****ed over by some woman. And that was back in the late 80s.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 01:14 PM
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ROFL

big nasty kcnut 03-09-2011 01:31 PM
I love richard jenni and also carlos francisco.

Deberg_1990 03-09-2011 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7476966)
I think the problem with Eddie Murphy is that he's such a complete uptight prick now that he simply doesn't want to deal with the "little people," and that includes performing in front of them. I don't even know if he could connect with an audience anymore. His last stand up show, Raw, wasn't nearly as good as his first two, and it was mainly just a two hour rant about him getting ****ed over by some woman. And that was back in the late 80s.
Yea, i think R rated Murphy is dead. Dude has mad so much money, he probably has no fire or desire to even try anymore....and when he did a few years ago (Dreamgirls) he acted like he got screwed over by the Academy.

Frazod 03-09-2011 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7477128)
Yea, i think R rated Murphy is dead. Dude has mad so much money, he probably has no fire or desire to even try anymore....and when he did a few years ago (Dreamgirls) he acted like he got screwed over by the Academy.
I saw an interview he gave around the time Dreamgirls came out, where he addressed the issue of doing standup. He just basically said, I've moved on, get over it." He came across as a real douche, too, and that was with a camera on him.

I wonder if Dane has any Eddie Murphy stories?

Baby Lee 03-09-2011 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7476897)
I wish Eddie Murphy would return to R rated standup....sigh...
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The Amazing thing about Eddie was how much of his humor was singular to him. Read his jokes on the page and you're like 'Wait, what?'

But hearing him deliver them you're in stitches and lots of times you aren't even sure why.

99.9% of comedians could never make 'Cramden and Norton have gay sex' funny if they devoted their life to the bit. But 20+ years on, I hear in my mind 'Waaaah, hummina hummina' and still chuckle a bit. And like I said I'm not sure what's funny about it, except that Eddie made it funny.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7477141)
I saw an interview he gave around the time Dreamgirls came out, where he addressed the issue of doing standup. He just basically said, I've moved on, get over it." He came across as a real douche, too, and that was with a camera on him.

I wonder if Dane has any Eddie Murphy stories?
There aren't a lot of people where you can actually see the 'asshole' ooze off them.

Murphy's way up on that list. I get the feeling that Sean Penn is a complete prick and Dane Cook's right there with them both. Bale and Nicholson seem like they're probably dicks as well.

And I get the idea that Matt Damon would be one of the coolest guys to have a beer with of all of them. And I know kutcher tends to rank on the 'douche' lists, but I honestly don't see it. He seems like he knows he's kindof a goofball and relishes it. To be a prick, you have to take yourself way too seriously. I don't think he does.

Lzen 03-09-2011 02:48 PM
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Meh.

gblowfish 03-09-2011 02:51 PM
If we're talking about "passed on," then we're talking about a lot of great classic stand ups from the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. Ones who come to mind:

Foster Brooks
Redd Foxx
Charlie Callas
Alan King
Henny Youngman
Jack Benny
Lenny Bruce
Flip Wilson
Buddy Hackett
Bob Hope

And don't forget impressionists like David Frye and Frank Gorshin.

I think Larry Reeb "Uncle Larry" is funny, but he's not dead yet.

There's some people who are "actors" now who used to be stand ups beside Eddie Murphy. Guys like Steve Martin, Albert Brooks and Kevin Pollack.

Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock are tweeners. They're still both doing stand up, but also do acting gigs.

Guys like Leno, Letterman, Craig Ferguson, Jimmy Fallon and Jon Steward are kind of in their own odd "TV front man" category, but all have been stand ups at one time.

MOhillbilly 03-09-2011 03:00 PM
ese, i see the thread youre viewing. youre killin my funny bone. smokes check em!

Lzen 03-09-2011 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 7476962)
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ROFL

Rumsfeld handled himself pretty well, I'd say.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2011 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7477245)
If we're talking about "passed on," then we're talking about a lot of great classic stand ups from the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. Ones who come to mind:

Foster Brooks
Redd Foxx
Charlie Callas
Alan King
Henny Youngman
Jack Benny
Lenny Bruce
Flip Wilson
Buddy Hackett
Bob Hope

And don't forget impressionists like David Frye and Frank Gorshin.

I think Larry Reeb "Uncle Larry" is funny, but he's not dead yet.

There's some people who are "actors" now who used to be stand ups beside Eddie Murphy. Guys like Steve Martin, Albert Brooks and Kevin Pollack.

Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock are tweeners. They're still both doing stand up, but also do acting gigs.

Guys like Leno, Letterman, Craig Ferguson, Jimmy Fallon and Jon Steward are kind of in their own odd "TV front man" category, but all have been stand ups at one time.
Who's the guy that was Robin Williams before Robin Williams?

Jonathan Winters? I think that's it - that dude was funny as hell in his prime.

teedubya 03-09-2011 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donger (Post 7476888)
I remember watching Hicks' performance on Dangerfield's show and thinking how different he was from the others. IIRC, Robert Schimmel (RIP), Dice Clay and a few others that went to become "famous" were on that same show.
Yeah, I wore that VCR tape out. Great set. "I was at a hotel in Enid Oklahoma... you know when you have to press 9 to get a dialtone, well, I dialed 9 and got the Elmer Dinkley Residence" "I'm Elmer Dinkley and you just called mah house." " Your number is 9?" "Yeah, my cousin's number is 23... I got it on my forehead, I keep calling 32." ROFL

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Hydrae 03-09-2011 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7477291)
Who's the guy that was Robin Williams before Robin Williams?

Jonathan Winters? I think that's it - that dude was funny as hell in his prime.
Johnathan Winters attic was a great improv show. Yes, he was Robin before Robin came on the scene in many ways.

Thig Lyfe 03-09-2011 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7477283)
ROFL

Rumsfeld handled himself pretty well, I'd say.
Yeah, I was pretty impressed at how he didn't hang up or get bent out of shape, especially after Louis just wouldn't stop asking.

He never did answer the question, though...

Dave Lane 03-09-2011 03:37 PM
I liked this one the best of course. It is awesome.

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MadMax 03-09-2011 03:37 PM
John Candy and Chris Farley also come to mind :)

Garcia Bronco 03-09-2011 03:39 PM
"The kid who eats too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own"

-George Carlin

"You can bet the the first person to utter the phrase "Buyer Beware" was bleeding from the asshole."

-George Carlin

teedubya 03-09-2011 03:59 PM
I share a lot of beliefs and ideals with Carlin.

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Ironic that after this was aired, Carlin died.

jet62 03-09-2011 04:08 PM
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Mi_chief_fan 03-09-2011 05:21 PM
I thought Tosh's "Completely Serious" was good. I'm a big fan of Dave Chappelle, wish he'd come back.

Pryor made me laugh like nobody else, and Redd Foxx was brilliant. Another guy you should all check out is Paul Mooney, he wrote alot of material for Pryor.

BigRedChief 03-09-2011 07:18 PM
George carlin is the funniest comedian of all time that was funny for 10 years or more.

CoMoChief 03-09-2011 07:48 PM
Norm MacDonald.....winner of this thread.


thank you

BigRedChief 03-09-2011 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7478167)
Norm MacDonald.....winner of this thread.


thank you
I thought this was a dead comedians thread.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 7477413)
John Candy and Chris Farley also come to mind :)
They werent known for stand-up at all.

BigMeatballDave 03-09-2011 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7478167)
Norm MacDonald.....winner of this thread.


thank you
Post fail

Third Eye 03-09-2011 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7476834)
I loved Hedberg's delivery; he was one of my favorites.

My problem with Hicks was never his politics. It's that he was so damn dark. I understand that you have a message and I am well aware that it's not a perfect world - but I have a hard time with comedians that take everything so seriously and are so prone to going into some pretty sinister places.

I don't think he'd have been Jon Stewart. I see him becoming more like Bill Maher. Maher was funny at one point in his career, but now he's just kind of a bloviating shithead that takes himself entirely too seriously.
Bill was dark, no doubt. I think if you really give a listen to his larger body of work, though, you will see his message is largely optimistic.

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Al Bundy 03-09-2011 08:49 PM
Bill Hicks FTW, I liked Sam Kinison too.

milkman 03-09-2011 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 7477245)
If we're talking about "passed on," then we're talking about a lot of great classic stand ups from the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. Ones who come to mind:

Foster Brooks
Redd Foxx
Charlie Callas
Alan King
Henny Youngman
Jack Benny
Lenny Bruce
Flip Wilson
Buddy Hackett
Bob Hope

And don't forget impressionists like David Frye and Frank Gorshin.

I think Larry Reeb "Uncle Larry" is funny, but he's not dead yet.

There's some people who are "actors" now who used to be stand ups beside Eddie Murphy. Guys like Steve Martin, Albert Brooks and Kevin Pollack.

Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock are tweeners. They're still both doing stand up, but also do acting gigs.

Guys like Leno, Letterman, Craig Ferguson, Jimmy Fallon and Jon Steward are kind of in their own odd "TV front man" category, but all have been stand ups at one time.
That's a really good list.

What most probably don't know is that Andy Griffith also started out as a stand up, and his "What it was, was football" set was one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

And Rich Little is still, to me, the best and funniest impressionist to have ever hit the stage.

teedubya 03-09-2011 10:05 PM
I'm surprised you like comedy, milkman. You strike me as someone who refuses laughter. rofl


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