Likely to be the finalized staff...
 

From what I gathered, the staff will all be announced at once.

OC -Doug Pederson
QB coach - Matt Nagy
RB coach - Eric Bienemy
WR coach - David Culley
TE coach - Tom Melvin
OL - Eugene Chung
DC - Bob Sutton
DL - Tom Brasher
LB - Gary Gibbs
DB - Emmitt Thomas/Otis Smith *assistant
ST- Dave Toub

Senior offensive assistant/Assistant HC - Brad Childress

Don't know the quality control guys yet.

Toub would be a great addition.

Doug Pederson better not be a predictable twat. I hate shitty OC's more than anything.

I need to go do some research on him.

I always like to see whats coming in case I have to get up& take a piss.

Meh - Sutton.

Mediocre at best in NYJ when he was the DC, no better when he was the LB coach and a clear 3-4 candidate.

I was really hoping for a 4-3 guy with an actual track record of sustained success. Dutton's just a bleh coach that's not really

Sutton doesn't appear likely to bring anything to the table. He may not take anything off it (hard to say), but he sure doesn't look like a guy that's going to give you anything more than you already have. He's essentially the DC version of a game managing QB.

Was sort of my feeling after looking at his previous run in NY.

Kinda feel like I did when Vermiel named Robinson DC in 2001. Like - is HE really the best we can do.

Obviously, I hope I'm wrong.

I have a worse comparison - I feel like I felt when we brought in Dabol from Miami.

But no GM yet...

Herman Edwards, Eric Mangini or Rex Ryan disciple?

I'm optimistic with Sutton. But I'm not thoroughly excited. I was hoping Andy would get a home run that could handle the D. He needs a PRO to handle the defense. I'm not sure Sutton is the guy, but I'll reserve judgment for now...

Is Sutton gonna run the 1 gap?

Army disciple.

Don't know all that much about these people but that sure isn't a list that just screams excitement.

That would be my guess, but I don't know for sure.

He'll likely switch it to a 1-gap.

Why go to 4-3?

My buddy is a beat writer for the Jets. He said that Sutton really pushed for a more simplified approach from Rex.

He runs an attacking defense.

Well I like hearing that.

daboob was a fraud

more likely sutton is just mediocre

Yeah, Sutton has been coaching too long to be a fraud. He's got head coaching experience (At Army, lulz) and been in the game for the better part of 2 decades. He's no Daballess. He's closer to Gunther Cunningham.

gonna have to wait and see....an odd assortment

I was expecting more established coordinators, but as others have said, I will reserve judgement until we see them on the field. Sutton looks like a proper, nice guy...hopefully he coaches with some fire as I prefer seeing that in a defensive coordinator.

I was hoping Reid would've gotten a well-known and respected DC since we all know he's gonna be spending a lot of time with the offense.

I really like the defensive lineup of coaches. I like Brasher, and wanted to keep Gibbs and Thomas. Special teams coach is a coup in my eyes. I'm pretty happy. We'll just have to play wait and see with Sutton. He goes 1 gap and brings an attacking defense, I think we can do very well.

Being an old army guy he's going to bring some ****ing discipline to the defense, and they desperately need it. As long as he can scheme, we should be in real good shape. That's the real unknown here.

Is this all really official anyway?

http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com..._culley_1.html

Jeremy Maclin, come on down!

I have a number of fears about switching back to the 4-3.

1. It creates some major needs on defense. The last time we switched schemes we used the #3 pick on Tyson Jackson... Would have to see a defense "need" prevent us from taking a QB.

2. When you look at all the DC names we heard of most of them run the cover 2. I think that's an outdated defense, especially against running qbs. While I'd love to have Lovie Smith, I don't want to see the cover two back in KC.

Tyson is going to have to rework his deal. Yeah, he improved last year, but that ****er isn't getting 17 millio of Hunt dollars for his body of work to date. It's still a huge question mark if he'll be back.

ST- Dave Toub- This is huge. Andy has made several comments about upgrading our ST's in his interviews. :clap:

Who was available?

Kiffin wasn't interested. Which was good.

The guy most of us liked, Rivera is staying with the Panthers.

No one likes Rob Ryan.

I was interested in Greene from GB, but he's never been a DC.

SB staff.

That is true, I'm just hoping Reid has learned from his mistakes.

I'm going to wait and see how it goes.

I do like the idea of playing a 1-gap.

I'm kind of glad Reid isn't just getting the band back together. Sometimes, in fact most of the time, having an all star staff, doesn't work.

I just remember Chris Berman calling him Eric "sleeping with" Bienemy on the NFL countdown highlights.

Good point. Being an Army guy, you would think discipline is a big part of his teaching. Aggressive and disciplined sounds pretty good to me.

THIS.

Taub is a great S&C coach.

I'm surprised there will be no Marty M.

Sweet. That's a better haul than I was expecting. As unexciting as the DC is, it is better than switching to some form of the Tampon 2 IMO.

If he sucks we'll go out and get a better one next year. There isn't much to chose from right now. It's a process.

He was solid on Tecmo Super Bowl as well.

Seriously?? You didn't expect a little better, or more experience, at OC/DC/QB coach?

I thought Andy would get one recently fired head coach to be a coordinator.

DC - No great options there

OC - He's known Pederson for a long time. Stop crying.

So we went from hiring coaches from the Pats tree to the Eagles tree and throw in a 90-year old DC.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

As with ANY HC, these guys are going to get people they KNOW and can be comfortable to work with.

Unlike ****stick who forces people on the HC.

Super happy with the Toub hire.

:facepalm: He's 61

Change your tampon

Sutton is 90?

It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.

Toub is the best ST coordinator in the league. That's a huge get if true, and certainly offsets any question marks at a couple position spots that may be unfounded anyway.

Does sutton run a 34?

Totally agree. Well said.

My bad he just looks 90 :)

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012...n--300x450.jpg

Jets run a 3-4.

It's assumed he'll run the same scheme.

Herm Edwards said he can run either.

Could be worse, it could have been Don Sutton. Thats the association my mind made when I first read it. Talk about a WTF moment.

well, his crank is so big he has to hold it while he works...

not sure if that helps on defense

Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen

#Bears S-T coordinator Dave Toub is at the Chiefs' headquarters this morning, interviewing with new coach Andy Reid, according to source.

Anyone get the feeling some of these are Juan Castillo-ish hires?

Prolly just me.

John Dorsey

ROFL:eek:

I don't know Matt Nagy, but he's the most important hire of the bunch. It's not enough to draft a quarterback. You have to give him a strong support and training infrastructure.

My mind read Bob Dutton...

Andy will be the primary person developing whatever young QB we take and Nagy will be getting tutored by Reid in the process. Andy will also be tutoring Pederson on how to call plays.:thumb:

A brief moment of dyslexia there I think:hmmm:

Would have really rather had Ray Horton as DC, but figured that wouldn't happen.

I thought we would go back to the tampon 2 and that would put a BIG damper on what we have going here.

That is a dynamic staff imo. I like it.

Not excited. Here's the bright side. He coached two gap but also led the shift to Ryans defense. You hope he learned from Rex. Rex is definitely an innovative mind. Plus, I appreciate that Reid is picking a scheme to match the talent instead of forcing a 43. First time in how many years that a coordinator wasn't plucked from a tree.

I'll be patient. I'm curious if he wants more two gap like mangini or attacking like Ryan.

Rapoti is good to go at 34RDE and Tyson J is far from suckage at 34LDE. you put these men in a 1 plus 2 gap scheme and they will get you pressure along with Poe up the middle. Add in Hali/Houston and you have a pass rush.

You swap this team out to 43 D and you have to start over in the pass rush dept.

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm excited about Sutton. I think he's ready for a DC shot, and will stick to the 3-4.

Then I am happy with the hire.

That's what we need.

Looks like a really good staff.

It's exactly what we need.

Looking like we hired a guy to fit the talent we already have on defense. I like it.

Huh?

Did we watch the same team last year?

No, Pitoitua is not 'good go go'; he's an adequate stop gap that should be no more than a situational player. He's only 'good to go' if you mean 'the hell away'. He's exceptionally replaceable.

As to Jackson, no, he is not far from suckage. He is an awful football player who has no technique and a pretty lousy motor.

And finally, no, they would not have to start over at pass-rusher if they converted to a 4-3 - they have Hali and Houston. Houston is a better version of Chris Clemons and Hali is the same guy that was drafted as a 4-3 DE, only now he's stronger than he used to be and has developed legitimate pass-rush moves. He's probably losing his first step a bit, however, so he's actually probably better suited to move back to the D-line as a down lineman where his route to the QB won't be quite as long as it is as a standup backer.

He's had a DC shot. He wasn't good at it.

I'm just not a fan of the 43 DJ, so I'll agree to disagree.

Bob Sutton (born January 28, 1951) is an American football coach. He is currently the assistant head coach and linebackers coach for the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). Sutton served as the head football coach at the United States Military Academy from 1991 to 1999, compiling a record of 44–55–1. He guided the 1996 Army squad to a 10–2 record, an appearance in the Independence Bowl, and a top 25 finish in both major polls. For his efforts that season, Sutton was awarded the Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award.
Sutton joined the New York Jets in 2000, and has since worked under four different head coaches. He began his tenure with the Jets as a linebackers coach before serving as the team's defensive coordinator from 2006 to 2008, succeeding Donnie Henderson.
Sutton earned his physical education degree from Eastern Michigan University. He and his wife, Debbie, have a son, Andrew, and a daughter, Sarah.

why is this huge ?

What is his background ?