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Reerun_KC 09-04-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan (Post 8876167)
How bad does Cassel suck when pining for Thiggy becomes a topic around here?

Has nothing to do with Cassel sucking, it has everything to do with the lack of basic football knowledge of our fanbase here.

We are quickly becoming CC and/or WPI...

htismaqe 09-04-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8876102)
That's just it. It's the preseason and we showed nothing. We have seen him throw the ball down the field in the last three years. People just don't want to admit it. People are crazy.

What games are you watching?

Any throw beyond 20 yards is almost guaranteed to be a neutral play AT BEST.

Go to any stat-related site there is and look it up - Matt Cassel's "deep ball" is one of the worst in the league among starting QBs.

beach tribe 09-04-2012 10:06 AM

Are you kidding?? Quinn looked like shit. Couldn't even hit a slant pass in the end zone on his first trip to the red zone, and then threw a pick on his next trip to the red zone. Cassel hit Bowe for like 10 TDs on that slant pass in 2010. It was almost unstoppable.

The Franchise 09-04-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8876417)
Are you kidding?? Quinn looked like shit. Couldn't even hit a slant pass in the end zone on his first trip to the red zone, and then threw a pick on his next trip to the red zone. Cassel hit Bowe for like 10 TDs on that slant pass in 2010. It was almost unstoppable.

JFC.....Quinn has had NO time with the #1s. I bet if Cassel went out and played with the scrubs....he'd look like dog shit as well.

beach tribe 09-04-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8876427)
JFC.....Quinn has had NO time with the #1s. I bet if Cassel went out and played with the scrubs....he'd look like dog shit as well.

So a QB that has been in the league for as long as he has needs a ton of reps to hit a 7 yard slant pass?
Look, I like Quinn. Love to have him as a back up, but Cassel is actually better, and that's not good for Quinn.

The Franchise 09-04-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8876433)
So a QB that has been in the league for as long as he has needs a ton of reps to hit a 7 yard slant pass?
Look, I like Quinn. Love to have him as a back up, but Cassel is actually better, and that's not good for Quinn.

When you don't get any reps with the WRs that you're throwing to? Yeah. The passing game relies on timing. You only get that from working with the WRs over and over again. Interesting that when Quinn goes out and plays with the #2s.....he's got no problems. That's because those are the guys that he's practicing with on a day to day basis.

I guarantee that if Quinn got #1 reps during practice....he'd blow Cassel out of the water. I've said it before.....and I'll say it again....Quinn is the perfect fit for this offense. He's better in the pocket than Cassel is. He's better at reading defenses. He's better at going through his progressions. And he's better at throwing the deep ball.

buddha 09-04-2012 10:18 AM

coogs, I posted something similar before the preseason. I am far from a Quinn honk and I hate ND...so no dog in the fight. I think Quinn has more presence and more ability than the other two QBs on the roster. He isn't perfect, and his biggest issue is his inability to sense pressure and burn pressure.

With that said, I think BQ is a better option for KC long term. To the stooges who think drafting a QB in the first round, no matter who it is, you guys are really really dumb.

ChiefsCountry 09-04-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8876014)
Doesn't have to be a HOFer. This team is not built in the fashion that needs a HOF QB to be successful... and successful deep into the post season. It does need a QB who can bring a bit more to the table than Cassel can.

Watch the 1st two series with Quinn against the Packers again. Watch it without any bias. You might be surprised.

I'm a Quinn supporter but with CoMo's track record just made it happen.

The Franchise 09-04-2012 10:20 AM

And before someone comes out and calls me a Quinn homer.......I'm not saying that if Quinn was starting....that he would be out competing with Brady, Brees or Rodgers. He's not that type of QB. But he is better than Cassel....and he won't go out there and just complete checkdown passes to McCluster all ****ing game.

beach tribe 09-04-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8876452)
When you don't get any reps with the WRs that you're throwing to? Yeah. The passing game relies on timing. You only get that from working with the WRs over and over again. Interesting that when Quinn goes out and plays with the #2s.....he's got no problems. That's because those are the guys that he's practicing with on a day to day basis.

I guarantee that if Quinn got #1 reps during practice....he'd blow Cassel out of the water. I've said it before.....and I'll say it again....Quinn is the perfect fit for this offense. He's better in the pocket than Cassel is. He's better at reading defenses. He's better at going through his progressions. And he's better at throwing the deep ball.

I really wish he could get a shot to do just that. It would be ****ing awesome for him to resurrect his career for us, and become the quality starter we need. He has all the talent in the world.

Reerun_KC 09-04-2012 10:21 AM

What is funny is how fast it went from Stanzimania to QuinnTaintLicking... Dear god, this is getting comical.

If you need a good laugh, open a QB thread on CP and read the expert analysis... LMAO

The Franchise 09-04-2012 10:23 AM

Quinn's career never really got off to a start at all. His situation in Cleveland was ****ed. He got injured...and then lost the coach that drafted him. Mangini ****ed up that whole situation. He went to Denver. Could he have shined and made the Broncos start him over Tebow? Sure. But I still think that Denver wasn't going to blow a 1st round pick on Tebow and then not give him a shot. He came here....and he's still ****ed because Pioli isn't benching Cassel.

The Franchise 09-04-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8876467)
What is funny is how fast it went from Stanzimania to QuinnTaintLicking... Dear god, this is getting comical.

If you need a good laugh, open a QB thread on CP and read the expert analysis... LMAO

What's funny is if ANYONE on this board actually thinks your posts have any substance to them. You've now fallen below R8ers and Setsuna. You're the most worthless poster on this board.

Frankie 09-04-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8874982)
Quinn is 27.

Playing like 57.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8875004)
Hopefully, Cassel throws down a breakout year, though and makes all that moot.

LMAO Cassel will have a year par with any average QB and we'll call it his break out year. Pioli will have that "I told you so" posture all off season and stay away from drafting one of the talented QBs coming up.

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8875081)
But I do know this. After only a couple of practices with the #1's... and probably very limited reps at that... Quinn looked pretty damn good when given the opportunity to play with the first string Thursday. Some obvious chemistry/timing issues, but those are to be expected. At least by me.

The ball went were it should have every single time... except one... but that was more on the O-line IMO. Split second longer with some pass protection, and the progression reads leads Quinn right to an easy TD on his left to right read pattern. And I mean split second.

I was vocally against drafting Quinn when he came out of college and posters here were screaming for him. I was totally correct. Quinn has not done anything for me to even get the crow out of the freezer.

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8875322)
Debating Cassel vs. Quinn vs. Thigpen is like last call at the bar, and debating, between the three skanks left, if you wanna go home with the hunchback, the gimp, or the cross-eyed chick.

LMAO

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 8875377)
If I was a gimp, hunchback, or cross-eyed chick I would be insulted by that comparison.

OK, fat, hair lip, and toothless.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8875565)
He didn't really check it down, thats the way Dabolls offense is designed.

Which is why I have theorized on this BB before and will here again, that Daboll has been instructed to devise an O that would be totally suited to Cassel. This may be one of the reasons Stanzi has regressed over last preseason. This and the long hair. ;)

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8875490)
Cassel will get hurt, and Quinn will win us a Super Bowl. Pioli finally finds his Brady.

And Prince Charles will be King of England.

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 8875765)
Quinn is better than Cassel and it's not even close. Waaaay more talented and poise in the pocket. Throws a better ball and reads defenses better. Looks like a QB. Cassel sucks and is a wannabe QB.

If you want purer stuff for cheaper call 1-555-pursht

Reerun_KC 09-04-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8876476)
What's funny is if ANYONE on this board actually thinks your posts have any substance to them. You've now fallen below R8ers and Setsuna. You're the most worthless poster on this board.

Yet your posts do? ROFL Little man, go away...


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