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All Battlestar Galactica, all the time. If you don't know, you should know.


***WARNING - The discussions going on in this thread could contain spoilers at any point in time, so if you are not current with the show and don't want to get info on future shows, read on at your own risk.

Dude, point that phaser somewhere else before one of us gets hurt.

Must see nerd TV. PBJ

I gotta' go ta' work, but the VCR will be running.

I think the Farscape+Stargate thing should be pretty cool...

I'd love to get myself into Claudia Black's "stargate".

I won't start watching until 8. Skip the fucking commercials that way.

Once again the Planet comes through. My wife loves this stuff, she told me it was on tonight and to her surprise I knew about it. :clap:

This is comedy gold coming from you, Dexter!

ROFL

Well, SG1 has been less than thrilling thus far. I'm going to go grab some dinner.

tivo rules

my tivo is on it!

Sweet Jesus she looks good in that black s&m outfit.

If more 32-33 year old women looked like that, I might re-consider this whole 'perpetually single' thing.

Seconded.

Fugging cliffhanger on SG-1.

So how was it? I just moved and haven't yet installed the dish.

How was SG Atlantis?

thanks

SG-1 was pretty good, but it's going to take a while to get used to Ben Browder on there. There were a lot of good moments, though. They even did a pretty good scene making fun of how similar Browder and Daniel Jackson look. Doc's gonna have to have a beard from now on I think, so you can tell the two apart.

I'm watching Atlantis right now, pretty good so far as well.

I will probably catch the replays that are about to start. Im expecting its going to be odd seeing Browder as a primary charactor on SG-1.

It really was, Miles. He's got more of a drawl than he did as John Crichton, but still...

And having Claudia Black on at the same time didn't help that much.

Still cool to see him back on TV. Now if they could just find a way to add some of the writing quality from farscape...

Galactica did not disappoint. That is a damn good show.

SG-1's been pretty solid since it moved to sci-fi I think.

I haven't seen galactica yet. Can't wait.

Claudia Black ??

Aeryn Sun from Farscape. She has a recurring role on SG-1, too.

I agree it has for the most part. Though its seems to be pretty inconsistent as far as how enjoyable it it.

It's just lighter. I think that's the real strongpoint of Galactica - the underlying darkness of the whole situation.

Damn she might look better than ever in this episode.

Is it wrong to lust for asian-cyborg love??

Unless you are a blind deaf mute, it is expected. But I'll take the one without the hole in her face, if you don't mind.

Grace Park is probably the only person on earth I'd consider marrying. She's pretty and smart and most importantly asian. Oh, and rich.

I thought she was on Caprica.

She'll be on earth eventually. I just know it.

I bet they'll both be on galactica before the season's over.

Yea it was a nice opener for the season.

I suppose I should log off and go watch it.

You should. You'll thank me later for saving you from all the pissing contest threads that are running rampant tonight.

Hell, that's the reason I can't log off. I'm having too much fun being a dick.

Hey, hey, there's a podcast up for scattered: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/

Decent episode, but I think it was the weakest of the entire series so far. And I hate the new opening.

I just finished watching it. Thought it was pretty solid but not on par with the latter episodes of the 1st season. Hopefully it will pick up some next week.

I think part of it may have been jumping between the extra planet. The story on Kobal (think thats the name) is rather uninteresting so far especially since they didnt have much of Baltar and the ultra hot cylon.

They did set the bar really high towards the end of last year.

I'm pretty disappointed that it only got two emmy noms, both technical.

Well, it was bound to be a disappointment...
 

SG-1 season opener was just a bad Indiana Jones ripoff story.

Question for you, Gaz -

Is Firefly a movie on its own, or is it a series that they are making Serenity from? I know you are a huge Whedon fan, so how would you rate this compared to Buffy and Angel? Me, I'm looking forward to the movie, but know nothing of the story that leads up to it.

Yeah, I have to agree. It will take time to integrate the new characters into an established story line. Hope they pull it off.

I'll have to ditto your SG-1 comments. "Mac" brought some comedy and personality to the show but it still just didn't capture my attention. A big shocker was how good I thought Stargate: Atlantis was (considering it's a spinoff of a show I really can't stand.)

Atlantis seems to have the better "bad guys," the better acting, and better cast. The idea of the first season (we're trapped in a land far, far away with no help and no idea what's going on) was somewhat spoiled by last season's cliffhanger ending, but I'd still recomend the 1st season.

I also liked "The Dead Zone" but lately it's turned to more of the generic sci-fi TV series: week to week the events of the series don't seem to be remembered or have any impact on the following week's events. It's like a sit-com where continuity is almost completely missing...

Bowser...
 

I'm having trouble keeping myself interested in both the 4400 and the Dead Zone this year.

I've still got to watch the Atlantis premeire. I was online and missed half the show.

Lukewarm...
 

Word up.

WATCH FIREFLY OR DIE SAD AND ALONE

Good stuff...
 

Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech?

Kaylee: Oh, gosh, I... I-I knew she took females as clients... I just... They look so glamorous together.
Jayne: I'll be in my bunk.

River: (looking at Jayne) "She's a liar."
Jayne: "That don't exactly set her apart from the rest of us. And the plunder sounds fun enough."
River: "She's a liar and no good will come of her."
Jayne: "Well, I say as a rule that girlfolk ain't to be trusted."
River: "Jayne is a girl's name."
Jayne: "She starts on that 'girl's name' thing, I'm gonna show her good an' all I got man parts."
Simon: "I'm trying to think of a way for you to be cruder. It's just not coming."

I for one am shocked that there are sci-fi geeks on this message board.

I didn't watch on Friday and could have swore that last season they should the rebroadcast on Tuesdays only to find that it was Monday. Guess I'll have to read the episode synopsis and go from there. :banghead:

Yosaffbridg: "Durran, this isn't what it looks like."
Mal: "Unless it looks like we're stealing your priceless Lassiter. Because that's what we're doing. Don't ask me about the gun, though, 'cause that's new."
Durran: "Well, I appreciate your honesty. Not, you know, a lot, but..."

Ah, yes. The new seasons start up for Sci-Fi's "big three" tonight. Who's watching?

Unfortunatly its only the two Stargate shows this summer for some reason. We are stuck waiting till the fall for Galactica.

Ah, crap. I knew that. Got too worked up thinking about the new seasons.


I SUCK AGAIN.


Kind of curious as to how they go along with SG-1 after the way last season ended.

Yeah I kind of forgot about what happened exactly but remember it being pretty big. I hope its not just a casual brush off of the ending and put off for a few episodes. I haven't seen any of the previews but have a bad feeling it may be what happens.

Yeah, but we get a full seasons worth of Galactica now. no more of this 10 episodes at a time with 4 months off between them.

This is a good thing.

It ended up with everyone dead, and Carter floating in space. And hopefully that feeling is just gas, and not a premonition.

Never got into Galactica but I am up for Atlantis and SG1. :D

Agreed. The half season thing is much more annoying with Galactica.

Personally, I would like them to do the non-stop season like 24 is doing now. 22 straight episodes in 22 weeks. I beleive Galactica is 22 episodes anyway.

Yep thats the best way for a show that does not have episodes that are completly independent of each other. It works well for FX, HBO and even BBC. Though each of those have shows that have shorter seasons.

All Battlestar Galactica, all the time.

Sci-Fi is showing the last season in back to back episodes right now, and the new season kicks off at 8 central tonight!

Added bonus - Sci-Fi is showing Heroes tonight at 6, in case anyone missed it and wanted to see it.

Fantastic. I can't wait.

Thanks!

just taped that BG - The story so far ..... don't know if it's worth it :shrug:

It's not bad. Kindof a 1 hr recap of the series up to this point. Great for somebody who likes the show but didn't see many of the earlier episodes. Not really anything new though.....

thanks ..... i've seen every episode so maybe i'll just skim it.

Anxiously awaiting the BG season premier. Best show on television, IMO.

Time to kick some toaster ass! :$2500:

watched the orginal galactica as a kid even had a poster, sounds like the new one is worth trying

Goram, I miss Firefly

For your geeky reading pleasure, the salon.com television critic tells you why BG rocks, and you shouldn't feel geeky or guilty for watching it:

http://salon.com/ent/tv/review/2006/...tar/print.html

Darkness becomes them
When the future of humankind rests in the hands of God-fearing robots, terrorism is our only hope. Hurray for the bleakness and ambiguity of "Battlestar Galactica"!
By Heather Havrilesky

Oct. 06, 2006 | At the end of the second season of "Battlestar Galactica," the colonists, recently settled on New Caprica, are faced with a horrifying vision: Cylon Raiders streaking across the skies above them. Instead of providing a fresh hope for humankind, their new home has become a trap. Looking on helplessly as red-eyed robots march through the streets, Galen "Chief" Tyrol asks his commanding officer, Kara "Starbuck" Thrace, "What do you want to do now, Captain?" With a scowl, she responds, "Same thing we always do. Fight 'em until we can't."

Oh, the hopelessness of it all! But intoxicating darkness has always been "Battlestar Galactica's" calling card, from those opening shots of mushroom clouds and lonely ships, wandering off to find Earth, to the show's haunting, melancholy theme music, to the claustrophobic interiors of Galactica and the stifled rage and sadness of its occupants. When Starbuck (Katee Sackhoff) mutters her plan, through gritted teeth, she's not being tough or courageous or poetic like the heroes of most sci-fi shows. Her remark feels more like an existential lament, the fighter pilot's version of "If that's all there is, then let's keep dancing." Starbuck doesn't share the Cylons' undying faith in one supreme and all-powerful God, nor does she buy into the ancient mythologies that President Laura Roslin (Mary McDonnell) does, putting her hopes in prophecies about leading the colonists to the promised land. Starbuck is a pragmatist with no romantic delusions and few ideals beyond blowing away as many "toasters" (Cylons) and "skin jobs" (Cylons who've evolved to look like humans) as possible. But even without any guiding principles in her arsenal, Starbuck's barely contained rage, as irrepressible as it is relentless, may be the colonists' most important resource.

Because, in keeping with the show's ominous tone, instead of quick resolutions or merciful diversions, the darkness reaches a palpable extreme during the premiere of the third season (9 p.m. Friday, Oct. 6, on the Sci Fi channel), when the colonists are forced to come to terms with the dire nature of their circumstances and adjust to their new lives under Cylon occupation. For some of them, this means keeping a low profile, compromising their morals for the safety of their loved ones, or joining the Cylons in an effort to stay alive. For others, it means "fighting them until we can't" -- waging a violent revolution against the Cylon oppressors, even if it means that innocent humans will get hurt or die along the way.

Heavy stuff, even for a sci-fi excursion through the far reaches of space. But then, what better environment in which to examine the boundaries of personality and group dynamics than a fantastical scenario where the survival of humankind is at stake? The uninitiated may continue to write off "Battlestar Galactica" as the remake of a mediocre show, or as the domain of science fiction fans alone, but those who've watched the show more than once or twice know better.

And so do TV producers, who are turning in increasing numbers to the realm of science fiction as a rich horizon on which to explore the most essential questions about human nature and group dynamics. From "Lost" to the ill-fated "Invasion" to the new "X-Men"-like pilot "Heroes" and the nuclear holocaust pilot "Jericho," the networks have integrated sci-fi into the mainstream with shows that not only dig deeper into questions of community and the ways that communities react to outside threats, but also explore the responses of individuals to intense circumstances. Like "Lost," "Battlestar" concerns itself primarily with human survival and views the characters and stories through a historical lens, layering on sociopolitical, cultural, economic and religious meaning to illustrate the divergent natures of human beings as well as their wildly contrasting philosophies and approaches to persevering in the face of major risks.

Best of all, "Battlestar" examines these themes without compromising the depth and integrity of each character. Each individual's reaction to the dire circumstances on New Caprica, while at times startling, follows directly from what we know of them so far, but also tests the limits of their fundamental beliefs and strengths as human beings: Chief Tyrol (Aaron Douglas) and his wife Cally (Nicki Clyne) are looking after their firstborn son, yet Chief remains as fiercely committed to the colonial cause as ever, leading the insurgency against the Cylon forces. Col. Saul Tigh's wife, Ellen (Kate Vernon), in her usual unnerving mix of perversity and loyalty, seduces Brother Cavil (Dean Stockwell), a Cylon, in order to win Tigh's (Michael Hogan) release from captivity, where he's been tortured and has lost an eye. Starbuck has been captured by Leoben Conoy (Callum Keith Rennie), a Cylon she knows from a previous interrogation on Galactica, and is being tirelessly manipulated into forming an attachment to him. She's resisting him, of course, to a gory extent, but no woman, not even one most men refer to as "Sir," is an island.

Meanwhile, Adm. William Adama (Edward James Olmos) hasn't given up on efforts to contact the colonists on New Caprica, but his son Lee's belief in the cause -- and in himself -- have diminished in direct proportion to the growth of his father's conviction. Indeed, we meet up with an almost unfamiliar Lee (Jamie Bamber): squishy, fat-faced, and unsure of himself in the face of his new role as commander. He's married to Dee (Kandyse McClure), but she already seems disillusioned with him in his new, pudgy state.

Unlike the original "Battlestar" series, which aired in 1978, this is not a show aimed at providing fun for the whole family, least of all this season, which features an examination of brutal wartime tactics that's about as far removed from the Ewok Village giddiness of children and robotic dogs as ever. Just as the show has used visual references to President Johnson's Air Force One swearing-in and to billboards of lost family members during 9/11, so too are we treated this season to images straight from Iraq: hooded prisoners being led into dismal cells like detainees at Abu Ghraib; men with black masks recruited by the Cylons to police other humans. The Cylons also have their own versions of communist propaganda posters ("Become part of the solution" they read), used to recruit these human police, and they instill Holocaust-era fear in the populace, hauling crowds of people away to face robotic firing squads.

Overpowered and oppressed, how will the colonists possibly survive in the face of such brutal tactics? By committing terrorist acts, of course. The insurgents, from Starbuck's husband Samuel Anders to Col. Tigh to Chief Tyrol, are in agreement: Only by sending men on suicide missions and planting bombs will the colonists stand a chance against their Cylon persecutors. That's right -- Cylons put their faith in one, all-powerful God and hope to "save" humankind by spreading God's word through their ranks, while the humans place their faith not in God, but in terrorism. You really have to hand it to the writers of "Battlestar" for turning the current political climate on its head.

Of course, the real drama here still rests in the human relationships: flawed characters, struggling to make it through chilling times without sacrificing too much of themselves in the process. Gaius Baltar (James Callis), who won the presidency with slick promises of a glorious future on New Caprica, fails to make it through with his dignity or honor intact, which is vaguely satisfying to see after all of his misdeeds. His endless seduction by Number Six (Tricia Helfer) seems to be drawing to a close as well -- a relief, after more than a season of the same breathy, imagined encounters with the Amazonian blonde that have been the only repetitive, predictable element in the series. Col. Tigh is also forced to make some huge sacrifices for the sake of his ideals, a nice twist for such a tough, uncompromising hawk of a character. As for the rest of the group, the future looks as uncertain as ever. Even after some major battles are won, the ambivalence and inner conflict we witness in these imperfect humans make us wonder if they'll ever find happiness, even if they do finally find the planet Earth.

But then, isn't that we love about "Battlestar Galactica" in the first place? Like those lonely spaceships in the opening credits, floating off into the abyss of space, the souls onboard remain indefinitely lost and uncertain of their true calling. There are temporary victories, epiphanies, discoveries and moments of grace, but the colonists, for the most part, muddle through the darkness just like the rest of us, unsure of where it all leads, yet determined to find out at any cost.


-- By Heather Havrilesky

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"Liou koe shway duh biao-tze huh hoe-tze duh bun ur-tze"
~River~




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And Farscape.

I just watched Serenity. Good flick, shame more people didn't watch it. Great universe, too bad we won't get to spend more time in it.

Herc at Ain't it Cool gave tonight's BSG premeire 5 stars. There's spoilers at that link, so don't go if you want to go into the ep. cold (I didn't read them myself).

Stargate -crap

Battlestar- original show was better.

All of it uninspiring, unoriginal recycled crap.

Dr. Who is the only show on SciFi that is actual SciFi.

Everything else are horror shows targetted for women.

1970's Van Daniken based schlock featuring a chimp in a robo-dog suit was better than the new version? I guess if it's not sci-fi, than "Starship Troopers" , "The Forever War", "The Matrix", and the Terminator films don't qualify either.

Each to their own..... :shake:

Well, everybody's entitled to an opinion.

But yours is fucking reeruned. :shake:

Jayne: I'll be in my bunk.

favorite quote from the season

Browncoats may be time to hijack this thread

I aim to misbehave
loved that show