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Donger 11-07-2012 03:34 PM

Boehner Extends Olive Branch on 'Fiscal Cliff'
 
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49731550

House Speaker John Boehner offered Wednesday to pursue a deal with a victorious President Barack Obama that will include higher taxes "under the right conditions" to help reduce the nation's staggering debt and put its finances in order.

"Mr. President, this is your moment," Boehner told reporters, speaking about the "fiscal cliff" that will hit in January. "We want you to lead."

Boehner said House Republicans are asking Obama "to make good on a balanced approach" that would including spending cuts and address government social benefit programs.

"Let's find the common ground that has eluded us," Boehner said while congratulating the president on winning a second term.

The Ohio Republican spoke a day after the president's clear re-election victory. He said conditions on higher taxes would include a revamped tax code to make it cleaner and fairer, fewer loopholes and lower rates for all.

The speaker noted that during one-on-one budget talks with the president in the summer of 2011, Obama had "endorsed the idea of tax reform and lower rates, including a top rate of lower than 35 percent," the present top rate.

"We're closer than we think to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done," he said.

Boehner did not specify what loopholes House Republicans might consider trimming. Nor did he take questions.

His comments were generally along the lines of proposals by vanquished Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney that also were vague on specifics.

Still, the speaker's comments signaled a willingness to enter into talks. He suggested Congress could use its upcoming lame-duck session to get the ball moving on such a compromise.

"We can't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight...This is going to take time," he said.

RNR 11-07-2012 03:39 PM

Now that the right has been slapped down he has no choice but to try to work with the left. I have zero hope that things can be turned around but both parties put their toe on the line and the right was soundly defeated. I hope they try to get something ****ing done. Two parties and no choice~

Direckshun 11-07-2012 03:43 PM

Good to see.

This needs to be a sea change in how our politics work.

DaFace 11-07-2012 03:44 PM

Skeptical, but optimistic. Hopefully the 2nd term will be a little less pissy than the first, but that's on Obama as much as anyone.

Donger 11-07-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9096268)
Skeptical, but optimistic. Hopefully the 2nd term will be a little less pissy than the first, but that's on Obama as much as anyone.

Indeed. At least Obama doesn't have Rahm around any longer.

kaplin42 11-07-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9096268)
Skeptical, but optimistic. Hopefully the 2nd term will be a little less pissy than the first, but that's on Obama as much as anyone.

And with no chance of being elected again, he can actually work instead of trying not to **** up so bad that he ruins his re-election chances.

But I totally agree that both sides need to come to the middle and make something happen that is going to fix our financial situation. But sides are going to have give in to compromise.

jiveturkey 11-07-2012 03:52 PM

This is a good sign.

BucEyedPea 11-07-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 9096251)
Now that the right has been slapped down he has no choice but to try to work with the left. I have zero hope that things can be turned around but both parties put their toe on the line and the right was soundly defeated. I hope they try to get something ****ing done. Two parties and no choice~

Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

kaplin42 11-07-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9096298)
Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

LOL. Please tell me you are just trolling.

If not, this is everything that is wrong with the GOP. Someone actually tries to reach across the aisle and get something done for the good of the country, and because it doesn't align with the agenda of "**** that ****er" it means he's a traitor.

This is how fail the Pubs have become.

ChiefsandO'sfan 11-07-2012 04:06 PM

Will Obama meet him half way is the Question.

mnchiefsguy 11-07-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9096264)
Good to see.

This needs to be a sea change in how our politics work.

Obama is going to have to change and meet the R's in the middle for this to work.

He cannot walk in and demand what he wants and simply say "I won."

Mr. BackseatModNuts 11-07-2012 04:17 PM

I've been very impressed with every politician I've heard from in the last 16 hours or so. I hope their follow through as half as good as their delivery. I'm not counting on it however.

La literatura 11-07-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9096332)
Will Obama meet him half way is the Question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 9096366)
Obama is going to have to change and meet the R's in the middle for this to work.

He cannot walk in and demand what he wants and simply say "I won."

Both have to meet in the middle. It almost happened summer 2011. This time, a deal needs to happen, and both sides coming away saying the other side flinched will be completely unacceptable.

alnorth 11-07-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 9096298)
Boehner is a traitor who has made back door deals with the WH. He's a big govt republican.

Boehner's really got no choice. If they don't work out a deal, the Bush tax cuts expire. Obama's not running for re-election, and the dems will probably point to some middle-class tax cut that the house rejected when they run in 2014.

BucEyedPea 11-07-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 9096331)
LOL. Please tell me you are just trolling.

Whatsomatta, you can't tolerate a different opinion than yours? You must be a liberal or progressive then.

Quote:

If not, this is everything that is wrong with the GOP.
In your opinion.

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Someone actually tries to reach across the aisle and get something done for the good of the country, and because it doesn't align with the agenda of "**** that ****er" it means he's a traitor.
That can also apply to Obama reaching across the aisle as well. You just want the reach to be one way— Obama's way. That's called One Party Rule which is never good. As for the good of the country, that's your opinion too. What you think is good may not be what I think is good. What is good or bad is a matter of opinion—not fact. I say spending needs to be cut. Obama's feet should be held to the fire on that. I'd say that even if Mitt won.

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This is how fail the Pubs have become.
In your opinion. If that were true, the Pubs would not have held the House and they did. That's where all spending bills must originate. That's also the People's House. The Presidential branch is not the People's House. That's per the Constitution.

Remember what Madison said about the House in Federalist Paper 58. I posted it earlier:

"This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788
My guess is, you'd probably call James Madison, who wrote that a "troll" too.


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