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B14ckmon 01-28-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9357971)
Why I don't think we will take a QB at #1 unless we felt that QB could start day one effectively.

California said to sign him and draft Geno Smith #1 overall.

Alex Smith would have to be a complete moron to do that.

CaliforniaChief 01-28-2013 10:13 AM

For those who don't want to make a FA play for Alex Smith, I'd be curious to see who you'd like to bring in for QB depth.

Michael Vick
Matt Hasselbeck
Matt Flynn
Kevin Kolb
Jason Campbell
Bruce Gradkowski
AJ Feeley
Matt Moore

I could see Matt Moore or Jason Campbell, but Alex Smith looks pretty attractive on that list.

CaliforniaChief 01-28-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9357974)
California said to sign him and draft Geno Smith #1 overall.

Alex Smith would have to be a complete moron to do that.

As I already said...

1. There's probably more to it than Smith just not wanting to be a backup. SF experience was embarrassing.
2. He could be a bridge-type one-year starter in KC.
3. The market for starting QB's in terms of FA's isn't that strong.

In addition:
1. Reid's offense could be a nice fit for Smith.
2. Chiefs have the money and cap space to do it.

ChiefMojo 01-28-2013 10:16 AM

I guess that is where I fall in line. I don't see Alex Smith as a steaming pile if sh*t like Matt Cassel. Do I think he is a really good QB? No, but I see him as quality and someone that could help KC for 2-3 years until the drafted QB is completely ready. Much like the same situation Dorsey and Green Bay did with Rodgers.

Rasputin 01-28-2013 10:17 AM

Alex Smith does not fit the PASSING QB & offensive role that Andy Reid is looking for. Same boat with Alex Smith as in Matt Cassel 2010. Coach Reid wants to pass the ball not just hand off to the running backs. Alex Smith is a game manager not a game winner.


Do not want not even as a back up, he doesn't want to be a back up. Let young QBs duke it out with one being Geno Smith and a later round QB.

RyFo18 01-28-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9357961)
...Why would he sign with a team who just drafted a QB #1 overall if he wants to start?

Because Free Agency is before the draft?

B14ckmon 01-28-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9357983)
Because Free Agency is before the draft?

Are the Chiefs going to be the first team in history to keep their #1 pick a secret?

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9357980)
As I already said...

1. There's probably more to it than Smith just not wanting to be a backup. SF experience was embarrassing.
2. He could be a bridge-type one-year starter in KC.
3. The market for starting QB's in terms of FA's isn't that strong.

In addition:
1. Reid's offense could be a nice fit for Smith.
2. Chiefs have the money and cap space to do it.

If you honestly think Alex Smith wants to go from a backup QB collecting Super Bowl rings, to a backup in Kansas City, I offer you this ketchup popsicle and pair of white gloves.

Rasputin 01-28-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9357981)
I guess that is where I fall in line. I don't see Alex Smith as a steaming pile if sh*t like Matt Cassel. Do I think he is a really good QB? No, but I see him as quality and someone that could help KC for 2-3 years until the drafted QB is completely ready.

Why should the draftee QB have to sit for 2-3 years? Last years class has proved a QB does not have to sit and "ride the pine". In this era of NFL football rookie QBs can come out and make a big impact to accellerate a team into turning it around. I'd hate to see #1 draft pick QB sit behind a retread QB that isn't going take us to the promise land.

DJ's left nut 01-28-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9357982)
Alex Smith does not fit the PASSING QB & offensive role that Andy Reid is looking for. Same boat with Alex Smith as in Matt Cassel 2010. Coach Reid wants to pass the ball not just hand off to the running backs. Alex Smith is a game manager not a game winner.


Do not want not even as a back up, he doesn't want to be a back up. Let young QBs duke it out with one being Geno Smith and a later round QB.

You keep saying that - it doesn't make it any more accurate.

He's not a downfield passer, true. But look at his skill-set and explain to me why he couldn't be an efficient volume passer in a west-coast set. He's accurate, he's smart with the ball and he's mobile. He could easily be a guy that throws the ball 30+ times a game but does so in a manner where he hits his guys in the intermediate areas to create space for them to operate.

No matter what QB he brings in, Reid doesn't have the personnel to run the offense he ran the last couple of years in Philly. He doesn't have the WRs to run it.

What he'll have to do is use a more conventional WCO where he uses the intermediate zones to create space for guys to rack up RAC yards. He'll have to use the short passing game to set up the run and deep passes off double moves.

Smith could do that. You keep saying he shouldn't be a volume passer because he hasn't been asked to be - but what do you see in the actual player that says he can't be?

He has the skills to do the job.

RyFo18 01-28-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9357984)
Are the Chiefs going to be the first team in history to keep their #1 pick a secret?

I'd say there is about a 95% chance of this happening, yes.

B14ckmon 01-28-2013 10:25 AM

Smith hasn't exactly had some high flying receivers in his career. Crabtree is just now starting to not suck like a diva.


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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9357995)
I'd say there is about a 95% chance of this happening, yes.


I am sure Alex Smith and his Agent will take the Kansas City Chiefs on faith then. lol

Rasputin 01-28-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9357993)
You keep saying that - it doesn't make it any more accurate.

He's not a downfield passer, true. But look at his skill-set and explain to me why he couldn't be an efficient volume passer in a west-coast set. He's accurate, he's smart with the ball and he's mobile. He could easily be a guy that throws the ball 30+ times a game but does so in a manner where he hits his guys in the intermediate areas to create space for them to operate.

No matter what QB he brings in, Reid doesn't have the personnel to run the offense he ran the last couple of years in Philly. He doesn't have the WRs to run it.

What he'll have to do is use a more conventional WCO where he uses the intermediate zones to create space for guys to rack up RAC yards. He'll have to use the short passing game to set up the run and deep passes off double moves.

Smith could do that. You keep saying he shouldn't be a volume passer because he hasn't been asked to be - but what do you see in the actual player that says he can't be?

He has the skills to do the job.

I have no NO desire to see Alex Smith in a Chief uniform none. Same as it ever was. His age and he is a retread. I don't think he is the kind of QB you would ask to pass the ball 40+ times like Andy Reid is wanting to ask the QB to do. He relies on the run game and playaction. I don't see Alex Smith having the arm strength and have to rely on his arm that many times a game each and every week.

RyFo18 01-28-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9357997)
I am sure Alex Smith and his Agent will take the Kansas City Chiefs on faith then. lol

I'm not saying that. I don't think there is really a situation that stands out where Alex Smith would walk in and not be asked to compete for a starting job though. Let's be realistic about Alex Smith and the kind of QB he is.

B14ckmon 01-28-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RyFo18 (Post 9358002)
I'm not saying that. I don't think there is really a situation that stands out where Alex Smith would walk in and not be asked to compete for a starting job though. Let's be realistic about Alex Smith and the kind of QB he is.

So if he had to choose between a team not drafting a QB in the first round and horrible QBs currently, and the chiefs who might be taking Geno Smith #1 overall, you think he would go with the Chiefs?

You are delusional lol.

FlaChief58 01-28-2013 10:31 AM

He'll be looking for a starting job which means if KC brings him in they will not draft a qb in the first 2 rounds.

Pass


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