the perversity of drafting joeckel is mind destroying...

If Alberts back is bad and they decide to not take him, drafting Joeckel I guess makes sense.


That said, if his back checks out, IMO, you just re sign him and keep developing him. I don't really think he's topped out yet and he's still young.

I'm curious to see what Kiper will do, mock wise, if we re sign Albert and Bowe in free agency.

The Packers are the luckiest draft team ever.

Last year's draft just lined perfectly for them.

They needed a lot of players to fix their defense, and the BPA in every round just happened to be defensive players.

Dorsey and Reid are selling a bill of goods, and everyone is just buying it.

So, drafting Allen and Stephenson last year in the second and third rounds respectively, isn't enough?

Two of the better left tackles in college football drafted high isn't enough?

And they both now have NFL experience at the LT position?

And drafting another LT one year later makes sense?

Shit O...

I thought better of you.

Thank.

You.

Man, I'm just trying to wrap my head around all this. I'm all up for Geno, thought it would be a for sure thing by now.

I dunno waht to think.

I think we can agree that BPA is a little more complicated that the best player at any position available.

Frankly, I don't see why this is really a discussion. If we want to go based on history and how guys draft, the only time Reid was in a situation like this, he drafted a QB.

So there we go. Done.

Bingo.

And the guy he drafted didn't have the intangibles that Geno does.

Like this shit needs to be worked and over-worked.

It is a done deal.

Thank the maker(s).

I don't like that Clark is coming out saying what he's saying about QB's at this point.

But I hope you are right.

Like I give a shit what Clark says. The guy hired Peeholi. Endorsed Crennel as head coach. Gave a thumbs up for Daboll to run the worst offense the NFL has seen in 80 years - literally.

Reid and Dorsey have drafted very good QB's when they needed to and when they had them sitting there for the taking.

This shit is a done deal.

I think he was just trying to justify us somehow taking Joekel. I know OCity wants Geno.

Are you sure he said those actual words, and not just BPA no matter what? There is a big difference between BPA and BPA no matter the positions. I also disagree that ***** would be more likely to pick Geno.

Also, as far as the timetable goes, that time doesn't start until you get an actual QB. You don't build the team and then drop the QB in. At least, that's a difficult way to do it. They aren't going to just wait around on that position. Dorsey also was very honest about a good team needing a very good QB.

Do you think they are just feeding us lines, or just not explaining that BPA allows, even demands, need as a factor?

Both.

I don't think this is meant to be as a slight to fans but more as a smokescreen.

I'd buy the luck opinion if they weren't so consistent. Year in and year out they continue to add good players. Besides adding guys like Rodgers and Matthews look at what they've done after the 1st round

2011:Randall Cobb 2nd/64th 2010: Mike Neal 2nd/56th, Morgan Burnett 3rd/71, Andrew Quarless 5th/154th, Marshall Newhouse 5th/169th, James Starks 6th/193rd C.J. Wilson 7th/230 2009: T.J. Lang 4th/109th, Jarius Wynn 6th/182nd 2008: Jorday Nelson 2nd/36th, Patrick Lee 2nd/60th, Jermichael Finley 3rd/91st, Josh Sitton 4th/135 2007: Desmond Biship 6th/193rd James Jones 3rd/78th Mason Crosby 6th/194th 2006: Greg Jennings 2nd/52nd.

Lots of good picks in that group especially the WR corps :drool: