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Hammock Parties 05-19-2018 06:34 PM

Madden 19
 
First news leak:

Improved QB arm animation

Route running rating is removed and replaced by deep, intermediate and short route running.

New punting interface

New franchise mode

New World Order 05-19-2018 06:35 PM

Just fix the ****ing blocking. That's all I want.

KCrockaholic 05-19-2018 06:36 PM

What you mean new franchise?

Hammock Parties 05-19-2018 06:44 PM

Hard to say. Maybe they totally revamped franchise mode.

The Franchise 05-19-2018 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13562500)
Hard to say. Maybe they totally revamped franchise mode.

Doubtful.

KCrockaholic 05-20-2018 05:31 AM

The new punter interface has to be a joke. Nobody gives a shit about punting.

CoMoChief 05-20-2018 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13562775)
The new punter interface has to be a joke. Nobody gives a shit about punting.

No shit.

Its like enhancing fan graphics/animations in the stands or animations in between plays, during huddles, sideline cam, coaches reactions shots etc.

No one cares about that shit. Just make the damn game play and AI better.

God...**** the Madden franchise. I only rarely play it because I need my football video game fix, and sadly EA knows that and exploits the shit out of customers w/ their exclusive rights shit.

At least w/ MLB The Show and their exclusive rights, at least it's a ****in awesome game. Only thing that's probably ever rivaled it was the '05-06 MVP Baseball series for PS2/Xbox. NCAA game was SOOOOOO much better. Dynasty mode in that game was 100000x better than any franchise mode Madden's ever come out with.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-20-2018 08:47 AM

Earlier you buy, earlier you discover the cheap cheeses that make it unplayable

Hammock Parties 05-20-2018 10:24 AM

I hope we do another online franchise here at CP.

If there's a new learning curve this year and Rocko is on the same level as the rest of us it'll be fun.

KCrockaholic 05-20-2018 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13562918)
I hope we do another online franchise here at CP.

If there's a new learning curve this year and Rocko is on the same level as the rest of us it'll be fun.

Eh. I’m good at the game first of all because I understand football. Secondly I’m really good at the game just due to experience of playing Madden religiously since I was about 8. But with that said, some years I do struggle out the gate. So if we do one for Madden 19 let’s try to start it up right after release date if possible to put everyone on even ground.

SAGA45 05-20-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13562486)
First news leak:

Improved QB arm animation

Route running rating is removed and replaced by deep, intermediate and short route running.

New punting interface

New franchise mode

That has already been confirmed fake by the lead gameplay designer. Even without that, "New punting interface" is a dead giveaway.

KCrockaholic 05-20-2018 11:05 AM

They do need to actually do something with franchise though. It’s pathetic that Madden 05 had a more badass franchise than 18. Madden geared so much towards ultimate team because it’s a cash cow for the idiots paying out hundreds or thousands all year long for fake cards that MIGHT help them win a few extra games and will then be worthless in August. So Madden looks at it as a waste of time to screw around with franchise.

We’ll see what they show at E3.

Sassy Squatch 05-20-2018 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13562954)
Eh. I’m good at the game first of all because I understand football. Secondly I’m really good at the game just due to experience of playing Madden religiously since I was about 8. But with that said, some years I do struggle out the gate. So if we do one for Madden 19 let’s try to start it up right after release date if possible to put everyone on even ground.

Not with the myriad of game breaking glitches they'll need to patch out. These games are usually damn near broken on release.

Sassy Squatch 05-20-2018 11:11 AM

They'd have to figure out how to squeeze micro transactions into franchise mode before they'd ever stop just copy pasting it.

The Franchise 05-20-2018 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13562957)
They do need to actually do something with franchise though. It’s pathetic that Madden 05 had a more badass franchise than 18. Madden geared so much towards ultimate team because it’s a cash cow for the idiots paying out hundreds or thousands all year long for fake cards that MIGHT help them win a few extra games and will then be worthless in August. So Madden looks at it as a waste of time to screw around with franchise.

We’ll see what they show at E3.

It’ll never happen. They care more about Ultimate Team and online play.

KCrockaholic 05-20-2018 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13562960)
Not with the myriad of game breaking glitches they'll need to patch out. These games are usually damn near broken on release.

Ya this pisses me off that they can’t just make the game right the first time anymore.

New World Order 05-20-2018 12:45 PM

PS2-era Madden had and still has the best gameplay of any Madden era. Of course 18 is the first madden I've played since 08

I just wish we could get that gameplay with modern graphics.

Hammock Parties 05-20-2018 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13563087)
PS2-era Madden had and still has the best gameplay of any Madden era. Of course 18 is the first madden I've played since 08

I just wish we could get that gameplay with modern graphics.

No it didn't. Most of that era could just be abused with deep balls and user catching.

New World Order 05-20-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13563093)
No it didn't. Most of that era could just be abused with deep balls and user catching.

That was the 360 era

SAGA45 05-20-2018 04:07 PM

Any of you post over at OS by any chance?

Aspengc8 05-21-2018 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 13563334)
Any of you post over at OS by any chance?

I post on OS, muthead and reddit a lot. Been playing competative for the last few maddens.

KCrockaholic 05-21-2018 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13563740)
I post on OS, muthead and reddit a lot. Been playing competative for the last few maddens.

Why aren't you in our league then?

Aspengc8 05-21-2018 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13563794)
Why aren't you in our league then?

I'm already in two 32 man leagues and trying to keep up with the weekend league MUT tourneys is more than enough time. Maybe in 19 if you guys have an opening.

KCrockaholic 05-21-2018 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13563824)
I'm already in two 32 man leagues and trying to keep up with the weekend league MUT tourneys is more than enough time. Maybe in 19 if you guys have an opening.

Gotcha. Ya we'll have spots available for Madden 19.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-21-2018 03:44 PM

I just wish that they still made it for PC.

I really should just bit the bullet and buy a PS4 but from the sounds of it, Madden hasn't improved much.

beach tribe 05-22-2018 01:43 AM

CP league is PS4 or Xbox?

New World Order 05-22-2018 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 13564814)
CP league is PS4 or Xbox?

PS4

Dayze 05-22-2018 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13562491)
Just fix the ****ing blocking. That's all I want.

Yep.
This past year was the first time I had bought it in quite a number of years, courtesy of a $50 gamestop gift card. And while there were many improvements from the last Madden games I played, the blocking is consistently lacking.

Also, when playing a franchise as a Player (whatever it's called; when you play as a QB, RB, LB etc..), it's a little broken as well. As it pertains to QB, it's impossible to get a running game going, regardless who is in the backfield. you'll see a hole open up, and the RB (computer controlled) will just inexplicably cut back, or bounce to the outside. I recently completed a season at QB of the Chiefs, the my the most yards my RBs got me in a game all season was 116. and that would be considered a breakout compared to what they usually do. I try to play pretty realistically - balanced play calling, field positioning, clock management etc, so it's infuriating to consistently have a run game that gets you 40 yds on 20 carries.

So I'd say that aspect is pretty broken too.
I need to play more 'regular' franchise where I can switch between players etc.

New World Order 05-22-2018 08:06 AM

^ Agreed Dayze. Pulling lineman suck at blocking. Tosses suck because of this.

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Pasta Little Brioni 05-22-2018 08:22 AM

Raise the awareness rating!

Sassy Squatch 05-22-2018 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13564946)
Raise the awareness rating!

Hey now. Some NFL linemen just aren't aware of the fact that when they're out in open space they're supposed to engage and block defenders.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-22-2018 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13564974)
Hey now. Some NFL linemen just aren't aware of the fact that when they're out in open space they're supposed to engage and block defenders.

Was that Jordan Black out there?

Aspengc8 05-22-2018 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13564946)
Raise the awareness rating!

It doesnt need to be raised, it needs to be 'fixed' period. There are a ton of filler ratings that literally do NOTHING. They have been tested and discussed ad nauseum on different sites and yet EA did nothing. In that video clip with the missed lead block (flat out ignores closest defender), it doesn't matter if his awareness would have been a 99, he would still pull shit like that off.

For example, with oline, all that literally matters is RUN and PASS BLOCK ratings. Impact block if you have extra XP to burn, and all that does is increase your dice roll chance of a pancake block on a pull (toss, power-0, etc). For dline, literally all you need is BLOCK SHED and either POWER MOVE or FINESSE (dont waste in both). Strength and awareness don't do shit this year. In your secondary, 91 zone coverage is all you need. Thats the threshold where the defender AI will break on a pass during the QB's throwing motion. Literally before he even separates his ball secure hand from the football, they break on the pass like superman.

New World Order 05-22-2018 08:58 AM

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Pasta Little Brioni 05-22-2018 09:09 AM

Looks like you shit your pants when he broke free ROFL

ThaVirus 05-22-2018 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13564946)
Raise the awareness rating!

"You don't understand the game"

New World Order 05-22-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13565031)
Looks like you shit your pants when he broke free ROFL

LMAO

There wasn't a blitz. I didn't expect NT to come through unblocked.

Dayze 05-22-2018 11:42 AM

and the other thing I'm reminded of, is how useless play action is.
I mean, yeah, you might hit a big play on play action, but I don't think it's because of the PA part of the playcall. when you watch replays, viturally no defender ever reacts to the PA. you could run the ball 20 plays, and pass 2, and the defenders will still not react to the run fake.

Therefore.....just sling it on every down lol. Granted, most of my playing comes from playing as a Player/Position so maybe that game mode is different. but in that mode....if you're not a RB, running the ball is effectively a worthless option.

seems like Madden is very close to making an awesome game if they would just fix a few fundamental parts of the game. But it seems they're more worried about featuring color rush uniforms, or Longshot Mode etc. I've never played online, so I have no idea how that mode is, if it's as broken as the rest of the game.

Madden would be an awesome game if it was $30-40.
but each year, $70 for basically the same game year in and year out....pffft.

I still play it a lot, (well, as much as I'm able to / availability), but getting a new copy each year basically depends if I get a gift card or not lol. otherwise, I 'll buy a 2 year old used copy for $15 each year.

KCrockaholic 05-22-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13565213)
and the other thing I'm reminded of, is how useless play action is.
.

This is true.

New World Order 05-22-2018 12:03 PM

Oh yeah I forgot to LMAO @ 'New QB Arm Animation' and 'New Punting Interface'

Pasta Little Brioni 05-22-2018 12:56 PM

Better than the game breaking kick block bug

WhiteWhale 05-23-2018 09:19 AM

And it's barely changed from 2014.

WhiteWhale 05-23-2018 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13564267)
I just wish that they still made it for PC.

I really should just bit the bullet and buy a PS4 but from the sounds of it, Madden hasn't improved much.

It never really made leaps, but we're into major diminishing returns now.

It's been like that forever. Just buy a new one every 4 or 5 years. Then you can actually notice a difference instead of paying 60 bucks for a roster update and a few new animations.

SAGA45 05-23-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13563740)
I post on OS, muthead and reddit a lot. Been playing competative for the last few maddens.

Im Kanobi over on OS. Im an offline franchise mode guy but Madden '16 is the only one I've bought in the last five or six years. I'm hoping '19 takes a BIG step forward in terms of gameplay.

Aspengc8 05-23-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 13566310)
Im Kanobi over on OS. Im an offline franchise mode guy but Madden '16 is the only one I've bought in the last five or six years. I'm hoping '19 takes a BIG step forward in terms of gameplay.

Don't hold your breath bud. I can see them doing a makeover for CFM, naturally MUT will be the biggest focus as thats what brings the money in with all the tourneys. As far as gameplay, its not going to take a big step unless they recode the entire game ai and get the 'animation triggering' shit out.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2018 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 13565213)
I mean, yeah, you might hit a big play on play action, but I don't think it's because of the PA part of the playcall.

when you watch replays, viturally no defender ever reacts to the PA.

absolutely false

you're just using a shitty QB with a low play action rating.

Hammock Parties 05-23-2018 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13565297)
Better than the game breaking kick block bug

that's not game breaking

if you hold the snap until 3 seconds are left the kick is unblockable

Hammock Parties 05-23-2018 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13564929)
^ Agreed Dayze. Pulling lineman suck at blocking. Tosses suck because of this.

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you led the ****ing league in rushing

shut up

SAGA45 05-24-2018 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13566527)
Don't hold your breath bud. I can see them doing a makeover for CFM, naturally MUT will be the biggest focus as thats what brings the money in with all the tourneys. As far as gameplay, its not going to take a big step unless they recode the entire game ai and get the 'animation triggering' shit out.

There's an article where one of the dev's admits that there's still code from Madden '06 in the game for animations.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-24-2018 02:51 AM

Some will defend this terrible franchise till the death ROFL

Aspengc8 05-24-2018 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13567197)
that's not game breaking

if you hold the snap until 3 seconds are left the kick is unblockable

That was last year. I've blocked kicks online when kids wait that long, its all in the timing. The only way to have a kick not blocked is by hitting the 'perfect kick' markers in the meter.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 13567536)
There's an article where one of the dev's admits that there's still code from Madden '06 in the game for animations.

I know.. its pretty sad. Until there is another developer working on a new title, they won't recode. They put the 'nano detection system' in, and normal overload blitzes will trigger the lineman to stop because the AI is so bad.

Hammock Parties 05-24-2018 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13567594)
That was last year. I've blocked kicks online when kids wait that long, its all in the timing. The only way to have a kick not blocked is by hitting the 'perfect kick' markers in the meter.

Sorry...never had a kick blocked on 18 at 3 seconds

Aspengc8 05-24-2018 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13567617)
Sorry...never had a kick blocked on 18 at 3 seconds

vs real people or CPU? Maybe has to do with game mode as well (simulation, arcade or competitive mode)

KCrockaholic 05-24-2018 09:09 AM

I've blocked a couple dozen FG's this year online. Had a few of my own blocked as well. Doesn't happen often though.

KCrockaholic 05-25-2018 09:51 AM

Quote:

Madden 19 is introducing a feature called Real Player Motion to deliver game-changing control and precision on the field. From EA, "Realistic character movements provide smooth, immersive animations for adaptive and believable player motion while animation variety creates authentic movement unique to positions and body types. Your favorite players become true-to-life from snap to whistle."



There are also all new gameplay concepts in the game. Here's what we know:



One Cut - Control your ball carrier to change direction, avoid the tackle, and accelerate toward the end zone.
Hit the Hole - Allows your ball carrier to find the open lane, maneuver around your opponent, and seamlessly run through the lane for extra yards.
Push the Pile - Power through defenders at the line of scrimmage for that critical inch to get a first down or touchdown.
https://www.muthead.com/news/1453-ma...-preorder-info

Whatever EA. Better do better than that.

I got the G.O.A.T. edition last year for MUT, but this year I'll be sticking with the $60 basic game.

Dayze 05-25-2018 12:34 PM

just seems like they recycle the same handful of 'features' each year on a rotational basis.

Sassy Squatch 05-25-2018 01:36 PM

So they're back to fiddling with the running game? Wasn't there one year where it was reerunedly easy to run because of this shit.

Hammock Parties 05-25-2018 04:43 PM

OH SHIT. CUSTOM DRAFT CLASSES.

https://i.redd.it/uwbg84udp0011.jpg

Hammock Parties 05-25-2018 04:44 PM

available on PC? wut?

https://i.imgur.com/EQdm6Ra.jpg

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-25-2018 05:16 PM

Available on PC?

Please be for real!

big nasty kcnut 05-25-2018 08:20 PM

On madden mobile it hard to get the chiefs players i like. Costs in the millions.

Hammock Parties 05-31-2018 06:28 PM

Huh. New depth chart positions.

https://i.redd.it/2algxxgoq7111.jpg

I’ll save the deep dive for a future blog, but at a high level, these positions were created so that gameplay could tag formations with these new specialist positions. So for instance, instead of having to manually sub a defensive end down to defensive tackle out of Nickel, just assign that player to your Rush Defensive Tackle slot and he’ll already be there every time you call a Nickel defense.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-31-2018 06:31 PM

About time they have slot WR/CB.

The Franchise 05-31-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13576862)
Huh. New depth chart positions.

https://i.redd.it/2algxxgoq7111.jpg

I’ll save the deep dive for a future blog, but at a high level, these positions were created so that gameplay could tag formations with these new specialist positions. So for instance, instead of having to manually sub a defensive end down to defensive tackle out of Nickel, just assign that player to your Rush Defensive Tackle slot and he’ll already be there every time you call a Nickel defense.

If it's in the game....we'll put it in the game......15 ****ing years later.

MarkDavis'Haircut 05-31-2018 08:22 PM

So was the PC claim false?

Aspengc8 06-01-2018 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13576954)
If it's in the game....we'll put it in the game......15 ****ing years later.

None of it is even going to matter unless they fix the damn ai. It's cool that they are finally building some of that in, but the AI is still trash and the playbooks are all mixed with gobbly-gook and don't resemble real playbooks outside of having a few correct passing/running concepts. Too many 'random' plays with no design to attack certain parts of the defense.

New World Order 06-01-2018 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13577558)
None of it is even going to matter unless they fix the damn ai. It's cool that they are finally building some of that in, but the AI is still trash and the playbooks are all mixed with gobbly-gook and don't resemble real playbooks outside of having a few correct passing/running concepts. Too many 'random' plays with no design to attack certain parts of the defense.

Thank you!!!!!

The Franchise 06-01-2018 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13577558)
None of it is even going to matter unless they fix the damn ai. It's cool that they are finally building some of that in, but the AI is still trash and the playbooks are all mixed with gobbly-gook and don't resemble real playbooks outside of having a few correct passing/running concepts. Too many 'random' plays with no design to attack certain parts of the defense.

Pretty much.

And Franchise is so far beyond broken.

Hammock Parties 06-01-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13578316)
Pretty much.

And Franchise is so far beyond broken.

Franchise isn't broken. It's quite good. And it's going to be AMAZING now that you can edit draft classes.

KCrockaholic 06-02-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13578319)
Franchise isn't broken. It's quite good. And it's going to be AMAZING now that you can edit draft classes.

Dude it's really not good.

I wouldn't say it's broken, but I can certainly say there's a major lack of effort and thought put into it compared to what they could be doing with it.

It's an extremely generic franchise mode right now, and they don't really care about it anymore because it doesn't make them money like Ultimate Team does.

Sassy Squatch 06-02-2018 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13578319)
Franchise isn't broken. It's quite good. And it's going to be AMAZING now that you can edit draft classes.

EA Clay back at it again.

New World Order 06-02-2018 07:45 PM

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pugsnotdrugs19 06-02-2018 08:46 PM

Connected franchise mode is dog shit for the most part. If you disagree, your expectations are set far too low.

Go play 2K’s career modes and see the difference. Their modes aren’t perfect but they are 10x better than Madden.

kcxiv 06-02-2018 08:54 PM

13 years and still no desire to play EA football! I havent posted a **** EA football in years, so here it is, **** EA football!

Yes, i realize no one cares, but i still put in my worthless 2 cents!

The Franchise 06-03-2018 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13578319)
Franchise isn't broken. It's quite good. And it's going to be AMAZING now that you can edit draft classes.

Go take a look at how The Show does trades and how in depth their franchise is and then tell me that Madden isn’t broken.

Hammock Parties 06-09-2018 03:14 PM

Graphics look better. New animations. Me rikey.

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New World Order 06-09-2018 03:19 PM

Exclusive first gameplay of Madden 19. It's only a short clip. (Pay attention to the DT up the middle).

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Hammock Parties 06-09-2018 03:33 PM

LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 06-09-2018 06:09 PM

Same shit game. Cheesers are the only hope...

Hammock Parties 06-09-2018 06:12 PM

There's little reason to believe the game will be the same. Madden 18 had significant differences compared to Madden 17. For one thing, they fixed zone defense entirely.


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