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arrowheadnation 11-19-2012 10:52 PM

No "we should get Kaepernick" thread?
 
Are we really that emotionally spent that no one would even make a "we should go after Kaepernick" thread after tonight? I mean...say the 9'ers go to the SB this year with Alex Smith as their QB, maybe they'd give Kaepernick up. He's gotta be better than any of the QB's in this draft. Maybe we could spend our #1 pick on something more valuable. I know, I know, no more taking other team's QB's. He'd be the next Matt Flynn. yada yada yada.

DaWolf 11-19-2012 10:53 PM

Geno or bust...

jd1020 11-19-2012 10:53 PM

Sad when 1 good game after showings where he couldn't even hand the ball off makes people wet.

RealSNR 11-19-2012 10:55 PM

1983.

No. No no no no no. **** no.


No.

Hammock Parties 11-19-2012 10:56 PM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/30506753.jpg

arrowheadnation 11-19-2012 10:56 PM

I know. I'm not even saying we should go after him. I'm just saying any other time there would be a thread on here after his first completed pass. We as a board are emotionally broken.

Buck 11-19-2012 10:56 PM

I'm down for you all getting him.

RealSNR 11-19-2012 10:58 PM

Nobody else is the least bit suspicious that it took Jim Harbaugh to make Alex Smith not suck?

How do we know the same isn't true of Kaepernick? That he's good under a QB guru coach, but take that away from him and he'll crumble

Phobia 11-19-2012 10:58 PM

I'd love to have him but I don't think there's any way Harbaugh is going to let him get away. We could easily have Smith but not Kaepernick.

NJChiefsFan 11-19-2012 10:58 PM

#1 or 2 overall pick for a guy that played one game. Sounds like a plan. I am not saying he won't be a decent player but when you are on the right side of a blowout it becomes a lot easier to play loose. He had nothing to lose tonight going in, and by halftime he couldn't even lose the game. Having a franchise on your shoulders is something else entirely.

BossChief 11-19-2012 11:04 PM

WE WANT GE NO

WE WANT GE NO

WE WANT GE NO

CaliforniaChief 11-19-2012 11:05 PM

Good Lord, the willingness to accept others' sloppy seconds is deeply ingrained in the fan base of this team.

N-O.

L.A. Chieffan 11-19-2012 11:10 PM

One game and its obvious he would be the best QB on the team.

Psyko Tek 11-19-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9135470)
I'm down for you all getting him.

well that's a fine endorsement,
get a donk, and raider fan in
it's golden

griZZly64 11-19-2012 11:56 PM

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=266841

FloridaMan88 11-20-2012 02:17 AM

The thought of acquiring other teams back-up QB's is like heroin for some of the fanbase JFC.

DRAFT A FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

AussieChiefsFan 11-20-2012 02:18 AM

nooooope

zigbazah 11-20-2012 02:33 AM

One good game doesn't make a franchise QB. ESPN is just hyping this performance tonight for a story.

Rugby Thompson 11-20-2012 04:55 AM

i don't want him at all...

Rausch 11-20-2012 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 9135458)
He's gotta be better than any of the QB's in this draft.

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Lex Luthor 11-20-2012 06:06 AM

What was Einstein's definition of insanity again?

seamonster 11-20-2012 06:36 AM

No doubt in my mind Pioli would draft an ILB and trade the second round pick for Alex Smith. I watched the whole game last night and kapernick embarrased the bears "ballhawk" defense, 49ers wouldn't be shipping him off anytime soon. And everytime I see big armed Jason Cambell I see "upside", and he's black too. Could probably like run off tackle, or something.

okoye35chiefs 11-20-2012 06:45 AM

they are not going to let him go, we have a better chance of getting Alex Smith..

notorious 11-20-2012 07:05 AM

This thread needs to go **** itself.

BlackHelicopters 11-20-2012 07:11 AM

Kaepernic
See Flynn, Scott Mitchell, and probably others............

Deberg_1990 11-20-2012 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9135473)
I'd love to have him but I don't think there's any way Harbaugh is going to let him get away. We could easily have Smith but not Kaepernick.

This.

Harbaugh flirted with Manning and tried to replace Smith in the offseason. They know that Smith has a certain "Ceiling" and probably reached it last season. No way they let Kaepernick get away.

Deberg_1990 11-20-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9135656)
The thought of acquiring other teams back-up QB's is like heroin for some of the fanbase JFC.

DRAFT A FRANCHISE QB FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

IN fairness, Kaepernick is a little different. He was a high 2nd rounder, not a low 6th or 7th round guy the Chiefs usually go for. He was fairly well thought of coming out and obviously has a huge upside.

ILChief 11-20-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9135722)
Kaepernic
See Flynn, Scott Mitchell, and probably others............

I think you're missing a big one lol

KC_Lee 11-20-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9135722)
Kaepernic
See Flynn, Scott Mitchell, and probably others............

Took the words right out of my mouth.

No more other team back up BS. Draft and develop our own QB!!

Rausch 11-20-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9135734)
Took the words right out of my mouth.

No more other team back up BS. Draft and develop our own QB!!

But that's not what we do...

baitism 11-20-2012 07:35 AM

Why do people still want Geno? The dude folded against any decent competition this year.

Rausch 11-20-2012 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 9135755)
Why do people still want Geno? The dude folded against any decent competition this year.

I don't.

I thought that was clear...

Hootie 11-20-2012 07:41 AM

I'd take Kaepernick in a second.

THAT BEING SAID

he's going to get every chance going forward to be their starter this year...he put a spark in that offense they haven't seen all year.

The better question would be...

should we get Alex Smith?

and the answer to that?

No.

Rausch 11-20-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9135770)
I'd take Kaepernick in a second.

THAT BEING SAID

he's going to get every chance going forward to be their starter this year...

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BlackHelicopters 11-20-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9135733)
I think you're missing a big one lol

Those who speak fluent sarcasm got it.

Predarat 11-20-2012 07:57 AM

Too many tatoos
non NFL throwing motion
bad body language
DO NOT WANT

mr. tegu 11-20-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 9135755)
Why do people still want Geno? The dude folded against any decent competition this year.

You have no clue what you are talking about. :shake: If Geno has failed against good competition that means RG3 did as well.

Geno Smith so far this season in 7 conference games: 2,289 yards, 65.9% completion, 23 TD, 5 INTs, 147.4 rating.

RG3 in 9 conference games last season: 3,036 yards, 68.8% completion, 23 TDs, 6 INTs, 179.48 rating.

Geno Smith vs ranked opponents this season: 1,387 yards, 72.5% completion, 17 TDs, 4 INTs, 180.1 rating.

RG3 vs ranked opponents last season: 1,609 yards, 69% completion, 15 TDs, 3 INTs, 194.8 rating.

WV 11-20-2012 08:13 AM

I wanted him when he came out, but now I want Geno!

durtyrute 11-20-2012 08:20 AM

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suds79 11-20-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 9135755)
Why do people still want Geno? The dude folded against any decent competition this year.

I'm not sure Geno is my #1 guy anymore (tight race between him, Barkley & Wilson) but this statement seems misguided.

Is it Geno's fault his team plays zero defense? He scored 48 v Texas, 38 v TCU, 34 v OSU, 49 vs OU.

Now if you want to say he stunk vs K-State & Texas Tech, 14 points vs each, fine.

But to say folded against any decent competition this year is just wrong.

phisherman 11-20-2012 08:24 AM

I found myself thinking last night, "welcome to kc, alex smith."

Rausch 11-20-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 9135864)
I found myself thinking last night, "welcome to kc, alex smith."

He's a starter.

We only trade for b/u's...

Hootie 11-20-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9135787)

I'll bet you my CP account for your CP account Kaepernick starts next week...perhaps Alex Smith's concussion will magically "linger" for another week...but either way, he's getting the next start.

One more week where he flashes like he did against the...let me remind you...VAUNTED BEARS DEFENSE...Smith is getting Wally Pipp'd.

And as for this little personal vendetta you're having against me, I find it entertaining. So keep up the good work :thumb:

Dave Lane 11-20-2012 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 9135755)
Why do people still want Geno? His team folded against any decent competition this year.

FYP

Hootie 11-20-2012 08:35 AM

Kaepernick most certainly has "it"...proved it last night against a top tier defense.

One game, sure...but sometimes you can just tell.

That being said, he is absolutely, 100% off the block. The 49ers wouldn't take 2 firsts for him after that game.

Alex Smith was a stopgap, and they knew that. Kaepernick has QBotF potential.

KC_Lee 11-20-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9135748)
But that's not what we do...

Yeah and we don't go to the Super Bowl or win playoff games either.

Cause and effect?

Dartgod 11-20-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9135474)
#1 or 2 overall pick for a guy that played one game. Sounds like a plan. I am not saying he won't be a decent player but when you are on the right side of a blowout it becomes a lot easier to play loose. He had nothing to lose tonight going in, and by halftime he couldn't even lose the game. Having a franchise on your shoulders is something else entirely.

Scott Mitchell approves of this post.

baitism 11-20-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9135817)
You have no clue what you are talking about. :shake: If Geno has failed against good competition that means RG3 did as well.

Geno Smith so far this season in 7 conference games: 2,289 yards, 65.9% completion, 23 TD, 5 INTs, 147.4 rating.

RG3 in 9 conference games last season: 3,036 yards, 68.8% completion, 23 TDs, 6 INTs, 179.48 rating.

Geno Smith vs ranked opponents this season: 1,387 yards, 72.5% completion, 17 TDs, 4 INTs, 180.1 rating.

RG3 vs ranked opponents last season: 1,609 yards, 69% completion, 15 TDs, 3 INTs, 194.8 rating.

You pretty much proved my point. Sorry, but 32 points higher in rating is significant. Not to mention the Big 12 was a much better conference last year.

The Iron Chief 11-20-2012 08:43 AM

You know I was thinking damn he looks good as well but then my brain kicked in.
A performance or two from a surprise back up never tells the true story til their put under a microscope after a sufficient amount of time/games.
Chiefs fans over the yrs know this story by heart.
Thats why you dont jump the gun and sign him/back up to a huge contract.


Matt Cassel ... Became the fifth player in NFL history to have back-to-back 400-yard passing games with a 415-yard performance against the Miami Dolphins on Nov. 23 after a 400-yard performance against the New York Jets on Nov. 13 ... Made his first career start at the New York Jets on Sept. 14 ... Posted a career-high passer rating of 136.3 while throwing for three touchdown passes in the Patriots' 41-7 victory over the Broncos on Oct. 20 ... His 136.3 passer rating against the Broncos ranks as the 10th best mark by a Patriots quarterback since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

Painful to read I know.
The man became a gazillionaire all on account of his first few starts.

Hootie 11-20-2012 08:52 AM

ok but Matt Cassel never passed the eye test

be honest

did Kaepernick pass your eye test last night? Because the dude certainly passed mine. Throws a beautiful deep ball, drives through every pass, and I saw him carry out a great play fake for a score as well.

NOT TO MENTION THE FACT HE CAN RUN LIKE CUNNINGHAM

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2012 08:58 AM

Maybe it's just that people have learned by now not to take other teams leftovers because of a good game or two.

Mike in SW-MO 11-20-2012 09:08 AM

With no consensus #1 QB this year, we will probably see a lot more of the top guys in post-season evaluations. No skipping combine, Senior Bowl, East-West game, etc.

Should be more interesting than usual.

Deberg_1990 11-20-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9135987)
Maybe it's just that people have learned by now not to take other teams leftovers because of a good game or two.

They have? The Seahawks gave Flynn a 26 mil contract and he doesnt even start.

The Cards gave big money to Kolb as well....

QB driven and QB needy league. Some team will always be ready and willing to hand out big money to somone elses backup.

Monty 11-20-2012 09:17 AM

Instead of going after the QB, why don't they go after the the coach who turned it around for Smith and developed Kaepernick??

I was suggesting Geep Chryst last year after Haley was fired. At the very least, he could be an OC.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9136031)
They have? The Seahawks gave Flynn a 26 mil contract and he doesnt even start.

The Cards gave big money to Kolb as well....

QB driven and QB needy league. Some team will always be ready and willing to hand out big money to somone elses backup.

Sorry, "people" meaning CP posters.

Ugly Duck 11-20-2012 09:25 AM

Kapernick just signed a 4-year, $5 mil contract. Thats super-cheap insurance against Alex Smith going down. 9ers are sitting pretty at QB with a quality backup that don't cost nothin.' They'd ask for a helluva lot to give that up.

suds79 11-20-2012 09:28 AM

Any talk about Kaepernick is a moot point. Outside of the fact that we should know by know getting other team's QBs doesnt work, he will be their starter soon enough (if not next week).

So does anybody want to deal for Alex Smith? Yeah I didn't think so.

Chief Roundup 11-20-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 9135469)
I know. I'm not even saying we should go after him. I'm just saying any other time there would be a thread on here after his first completed pass. We as a board are emotionally broken.

People have finally figured out that trading for someone elses backup is not the answer. It simply doesn't work. Not to mention we are finally in a position where we can draft one at the top for ourselves.

Deberg_1990 11-20-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 9135755)
Why do people still want Geno? The dude folded against any decent competition this year.

I know fans like to do this, but you don’t evaluate college QBs based on wins and losses alone. That’s not how you project talent.

Rausch 11-20-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9135888)
I'll bet you my CP account for your CP account Kaepernick starts next week...

That's like trading Gold for six gum wrappers on the floor outside Pioli's office.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9135888)
And as for this little personal vendetta you're having against me, I find it entertaining. So keep up the good work :thumb:

Who are you?...

mr. tegu 11-20-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 9135931)
You pretty much proved my point. Sorry, but 32 points higher in rating is significant. Not to mention the Big 12 was a much better conference last year.

The only thing even close to significantly lower than RG3 is the rating. Everything else is comparable. Not liking a QB simply because of his rating is silly (especially because Geno still has a good rating anyways).

And even without comparing him to RG3, putting up those numbers against ranked opponents and conference opponents is impressive. To your original point that he folded against good competition is just completely wrong. Check the stats.

Rausch 11-20-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9137188)
The only thing even close to significantly lower than RG3 is the rating. Everything else is comparable. Not liking a QB simply because of his rating is silly (especially because Geno still has a good rating anyways).

And even without comparing him to RG3, putting up those numbers against ranked opponents and conference opponents is impressive. To your original point that he folded against good competition is just completely wrong. Check the stats.

RGIII is such a better prospect that even comparing them calls for the racism card.

Geno has the absolute WORST footwork I've ever seen in a 1st round prospect and if I had to compare him to anyone it'd be Ryan Leaf...

whoman69 11-20-2012 04:19 PM

No chance 49ers give him up. I would say we have a better chance to end up with Smith going by the history of this organization.

Reerun_KC 11-20-2012 04:21 PM

I dont even have to read this thread and I already know the content...

This is why we are the Chiefs and why we will never win a superbowl.... Fans just dont want "it"....

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9136270)



Who are you?...

Until proven otherwise, I assume every suspect n00b is Blackboob.

1ChiefsDan 11-20-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 9135458)
Are we really that emotionally spent that no one would even make a "we should go after Kaepernick" thread after tonight? I mean...say the 9'ers go to the SB this year with Alex Smith as their QB, maybe they'd give Kaepernick up. He's gotta be better than any of the QB's in this draft. Maybe we could spend our #1 pick on something more valuable. I know, I know, no more taking other team's QB's. He'd be the next Matt Flynn. yada yada yada.

Arrowhead Pride has been tweeting about it all day. :mad:

Reerun_KC 11-20-2012 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 9135458)
Are we really that emotionally spent that no one would even make a "we should go after Kaepernick" thread after tonight? I mean...say the 9'ers go to the SB this year with Alex Smith as their QB, maybe they'd give Kaepernick up. He's gotta be better than any of the QB's in this draft. Maybe we could spend our #1 pick on something more valuable. I know, I know, no more taking other team's QB's. He'd be the next Matt Flynn. yada yada yada.

What is more valuable than a QB?

RG or an ILB?

Rausch 11-20-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9137239)
What is more valuable than a QB?

RG or an ILB?

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Reerun_KC 11-20-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9137254)

Whats more important than drafting a Franchise QB?

Rausch 11-20-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9137259)
Whats more important than drafting a Franchise QB?

Not having AIDS.

That's it..

Period...

Reerun_KC 11-20-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9137263)
Not having AIDS.

That's it..

Period...

LMAO

TLO 11-20-2012 04:54 PM

NO NO NO!!!

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


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