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Dante84 05-08-2014 08:59 PM

***The Dee Ford Thread***
 
Welcome Phone Call from the Chiefs

Introductory Press Conference

In the National Championship
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Senior Bowl performance
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Highlight Video
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Sports Science: Dee Ford
*Spin Move Similar to Adrian Peterson!
*"Same class as Von Miller"
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King_Chief_Fan 05-08-2014 09:00 PM

What's not to like?

Planetman 05-08-2014 09:01 PM

http://www.dpciwholesale.com/images/D/9681.JPG

wait ... what ...

In58men 05-08-2014 09:02 PM

He ****ing sucks

loochy 05-08-2014 09:02 PM

http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-conte...HIEFS-FANS.gif

Simply Red 05-08-2014 09:03 PM

he's pretty darned good. but.

kchero 05-08-2014 09:03 PM

Dude looked like he was at a strip club when the Chiefs called.

In58men 05-08-2014 09:03 PM

@JasonLaCanfora: That's the first guy taken tonight I didn't have in the first round of my mock. And probably not the last I'd presume



On Dee Ford ROFL

MrGiggity 05-08-2014 09:04 PM

Good pick. Would have rather had Dennard but can't complain too much.

Molitoth 05-08-2014 09:04 PM

**** dee ford

Reerun_KC 05-08-2014 09:05 PM

Who?

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-08-2014 09:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One reason KC took Auburn DE Dee Ford: Tamba Hali weighed in at 284 pounds last Friday, 20 pounds over his optimal playing weight.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/464600086618832896">May 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Ragged Robin 05-08-2014 09:05 PM

Good player, don't think the value was there AT ALL. Could have picked a day 1 impact starter at Safety or WR or trade down and do the same thing.. instead they pick a rotational pass rusher who won't be on the field most of the time..

Urc Burry 05-08-2014 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10613167)
@JasonLaCanfora: That's the first guy taken tonight I didn't have in the first round of my mock. And probably not the last I'd presume



On Dee Ford ROFL

Who cares what one guy had him as? We were absolutely ****ed when we lost Tamba and Houston and we needed pass rush. A lot of guys here are fans of him and wanted him before today. I would of preferred Lee or Dennard but I can't complain

New World Order 05-08-2014 09:05 PM

Ugh. Just ugh

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-08-2014 09:06 PM

So Hali's smoking pot again !

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:06 PM

Love the pick.

We need pass rushers. Look what happened with this defense when Hali and Houston got hurt. Great pick.

@ArrowheadAddict: Picking Dee Ford means KC likes his medicals.

…Which means KC got the second best pass rusher in the draft behind Clowney.

Hammock Parties 05-08-2014 09:07 PM

It's a fine pick. Talented player, plays a position of impact, and a need.

I'm fine with at #23.

58-4ever 05-08-2014 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10613186)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One reason KC took Auburn DE Dee Ford: Tamba Hali weighed in at 284 pounds last Friday, 20 pounds over his optimal playing weight.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/464600086618832896">May 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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fat and happy

Down4Chiefs 05-08-2014 09:08 PM

He looks like he has athletic ability to be a beast,but I was hoping for a safety

BigCatDaddy 05-08-2014 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10613186)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>One reason KC took Auburn DE Dee Ford: Tamba Hali weighed in at 284 pounds last Friday, 20 pounds over his optimal playing weight.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/464600086618832896">May 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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WTF? Is he wanting to move down to DE?

TribalElder 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

We have completely ****ed this up again

Philly has Andy's number. I don't doubt they planned on trading with Cleveland all along because they knew Andy was going to try to go QB. Everyone knew that is why sal pal was up in Cleveland just to **** with Andy again

Everyone saw this coming except Andy and Dorsey

Dorsey doesn't watch tv or read the papers for weeks before the draft, maybe he should

Mojo Jojo 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10613188)
Good player, don't think the value was there AT ALL. Could have picked a day 1 impact starter at Safety or WR or trade down and do the same thing.. instead they pick a rotational pass rusher who won't be on the field most of the time..

or trade down...that means someone would want to trade up

penbrook 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

Per Herbie Teope

Chiefs coach Andy Reid called Dee Ford a "tremendous person" and complimented his high motor. Said looks forward to bringing him in the mix.

Iconic 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

CP should be embellishing this moment. There was like a 95% chance we would take OG instead of a monster of a play maker like Ford.

@ Haters.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...nbS1qgxdtt.gif

ChiTown 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

Excellent 2nd rd pick, oh, wait....

TribalElder 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

Season tickets and division 3 packs still available

ILChief 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

Not sexy but could be worse

FloridaMan88 05-08-2014 09:09 PM

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Keep repeating that until the Chiefs realize they have a dumpster fire of fail at WR.

They ignored the position in free agency, and now in the first round of the draft.

Mecca 05-08-2014 09:10 PM

Hali isn't here much longer. These 2 drafts say this new regime is rebuilding and moving on from big contracts.

Hell even the ones they signed can be cut after this season even Bowe...

58-4ever 05-08-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 10613245)
Per Herbie Teope

Chiefs coach Andy Reid called Dee Ford a "tremendous person" and complimented his high motor. Said looks forward to bringing him in the mix.

Glad he complimented someone he needs to be successful in order for him to keep his job. Keep up the good journalism.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10613217)
Love the pick.

We need pass rushers. Look what happened with this defense when Hali and Houston got hurt. Great pick.

@ArrowheadAddict: Picking Dee Ford means KC likes his medicals.

…Which means KC got the second best pass rusher in the draft behind Clowney.

Great post. Really good pick. **** the whiners.

buddha 05-08-2014 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 10613244)
or trade down...that means someone would want to trade up

Good point...the Chiefs used all but a few seconds of their clock. I think they wanted to move down, but probably didn't have a partner willing to participate. Too bad.

Dee Ford is a good player, but damn...it sure looks like a reach.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613250)
Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Keep repeating that until the Chiefs realize they have a dumpster fire of fail at WR.

They ignored the position in free agency, and now in the first round of the draft.

Our receivers weren't the reason we gave up a 4 td lead...

Iconic 05-08-2014 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10613249)
Not sexy but could be worse

This pick is the definition of sexy. You guys will understand come week 6 when Ford snaps Manning's neck and hands it back to him.

ChiTown 05-08-2014 09:11 PM

If you are gonna reach at 23, go Lee. We have No WR's worth a mother ****. Gawdamn

l4z4rd 05-08-2014 09:11 PM

Lee and Dennard on the board and they go Ford...unbelievable.

Mecca 05-08-2014 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613250)
Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Keep repeating that until the Chiefs realize they have a dumpster fire of fail at WR.

They ignored the position in free agency, and now in the first round of the draft.

And they're telling all of us they're a rebuilding team that is concerned with replacing aging expensive players. Teams that think they are a legit contender don't do some of the things this one has.

It's a rebuilding team that is shedding contracts.

InChiefsHeaven 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

I just kinda sat there and went...huh. OK. I guess.

Glad we at least went defense. Would have preferred safety, but we can always use pass rushers and people here have been saying Tamba is gone next year anyway. Pay Houston and hope this dude can be a Tamba i guess.

At least it wasnt' a ****ing guard.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10613254)
Hali isn't here much longer. These 2 drafts say this new regime is rebuilding and moving on from big contracts.

Hell even the ones they signed can be cut after this season even Bowe...

So when do the Chiefs expect to be competitive again?

When Alex Smith is 50?

Chiefs with 8 Pro Bowl players last year are choosing to go into rebuild mode, rather than all in to try to compete for a Super Bowl.

That summarizes this offseason and the current state of this pathetic franchise.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

I'd rather emulate the Seahawks more so than the Donkeys.

mlyonsd 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

Looks like the chiefs have the QB's they think they can win with and are looking to neutralize horse face Jr.

Ragged Robin 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613250)
Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

That's a lot of dropped balls.

TimeForWasp 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

Should have traded Hali last year, but maybe we could get into the second or third round.Time for him to go.

Rain Man 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

He was my fourth choice after Bridgewater, Marquise Lee, and Darqueze Dennard. He wasn't completely inexplicable, but I have concluded that the Chiefs will never draft a quarterback in my lifetime. It's a waste of time to watch them.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10613226)
It's a fine pick. Talented player, plays a position of impact, and a need.

I'm fine with at #23.

Absolutely. Guys that can get to the QB are worth their weight in gold.

petegz28 05-08-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10613275)
If you are gonna reach at 23, go Lee. We have No WR's worth a mother ****. Gawdamn

Reach? We have no 2nd round pick.....if we wanted him that was the time to get him

Bill Brasky 05-08-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10613144)
He ****ing sucks

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/up...hing-sucks.gif

tmax63 05-08-2014 09:13 PM

It is damn hard to find good pass rushers, harder than CB's, WR's etc. If his medical is good then I got no problem with the pick.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10613279)
And they're telling all of us they're a rebuilding team that is concerned with replacing aging expensive players. Teams that think they are a legit contender don't do some of the things this one has.

It's a rebuilding team that is shedding contracts.

A rebuilding team with 8 Pro Bowl players and a 30 year old starting QB.

That would be seen as an opportunity to try to win now by most franchises.

BryanBusby 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

Sorry ya'll, but the Chiefs made a smart decision.

This draft is flush with receivers and you don't need to spend a first ****ing round pick on a mother****ing Guard. Was I begging for a QB? Sure, but I also knew there was 0 chance they were gonna do it.

The pick was fine considering the circumstances.

KCDC 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10613117)
What's not to like?

WEAKNESSES Undersized -- thin-framed, lacks bulk and anchor strength to dig in vs. the run. Cannot convert speed to power and gets stalled if he cannot work half of a blocker. Struggles to discard blockers when locked up and gets inverted. Not comfortable moving in reverse. Has consistently been dinged with injuries and has never made it through a full season healthy. Recorded a very pedestrian 4.73-second 20-yard shuttle time at his pro day, indicative of marginal change of direction.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

@adamteicher: reid: Chiefs had 3 or 4 players rated close to Ford. #KCpick

KCFaninSEA 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

My concern is that I saw OT Jake Matthews from Texas A&M own Dee Ford. If he can do most OT's in the league will be able to do it also. We will see.

Mecca 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613284)
So when do the Chiefs expect to be competitive again?

When Alex Smith is 50?

Chiefs with 8 Pro Bowl players last year are choosing to go into rebuild mode, rather than all in to try to compete for a Super Bowl.

That summarizes this offseason and the current state of this pathetic franchise.

Alex Smith is here to keep them better than 2-14, that's all. Clark couldn't endure another 2-14 so they had to try to be competitive. Problem is Dorsey and Reid want to and are gutting this team while trying to be competitive for Clark's sake.

Kiimo 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

Keep deluding yourselves that this isn't a giant abortion of a pick.

BossChief 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

I'd rather have a really good pass rusher than a corner with very stiff hips (Dennard)

Watch his combine workouts and listen to Deion just clown him.

Ford at 23 is a good pick.

It just sucks that we didnt get Manziel.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613250)
Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Bowe, Avery, Jenkins, Hemingway

Keep repeating that until the Chiefs realize they have a dumpster fire of fail at WR.

They ignored the position in free agency, and now in the first round of the draft.

35 ppg 2nd half of the year


35 ppg ALL OWED and like no sacks. Which is the biggest need again?

ChiTown 05-08-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 10613293)
Reach? We have no 2nd round pick.....if we wanted him that was the time to get him

Right, and we need a ****ing WR as well. Lee is less of a reach at 23 than Ford.

Dayze 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

it's cool/ we'll have our 250 DE on the line in our 3-4.

Jakemall 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10613217)
Love the pick.

We need pass rushers. Look what happened with this defense when Hali and Houston got hurt. Great pick.

@ArrowheadAddict: Picking Dee Ford means KC likes his medicals.

…Which means KC got the second best pass rusher in the draft behind Clowney.

I liked Ealy also...but Ford is a good pick, imo.

The two guys I use for ranking players had Ford in the the mid to late 20s. So it was a little early..but not horribly...not if they like the player.

Jakemall 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...-sack-study-10

Dayze 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10613312)
Keep deluding yourselves that this isn't a giant abortion of a pick.

that .


good player if you ran a 4-3

Meatloaf 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

Here you go....actually, pretty impressive summary!

STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS: Fluid athlete with impressive burst, agility and underrated strength. As his size suggests, Ford relies on his burst off the snap to gain the corner against offensive tackles. He accelerates smoothly and is flexible enough to bend around the corner as a pure speed rusher.
Also possesses long arms and broad shoulders. These give him better pop at the point of attack than his opponents expect. While he's not going to be able to hold up against a powerful run-blocking right tackle all day long, Ford shows some toughness in setting the edge and does a nice job of jumping outside to keep contain.

Best of all, while most of his snaps due come from the three-point stance, he is occasionally asked to drop back into coverage, giving scouts evidence that he'll be able to handle coverage duties. Ford shows balance and efficient change-of-direction skills when operating in reverse, making him one to watch as a linebacker convert.

WEAKNESSES: Lacks the size and leverage ability to routinely hold his ground at the point of attach against tackles, when asked to defend the run. Lacks consistent rep experience dropping into coverage and may have a learning curve there at the next level, where he'll need to show an ability to contribute if he hopes to be an every-down NFL player.

COMPARES TO: Corey Lemonier, OLB, San Francisco 49ers - Like Lemonier, a former teammate, Ford is an undersized pass-rusher who primarily lines up at defensive end for Auburn but will be asked to transition to outside linebacker in the NFL.

--ROB RANG

PLAYER OVERVIEW

Ford was ranked as the nation's No. 26 defensive end by Scout.com coming out of Odenville, Ala., where he was selected to the Class 4A All-State team.
He appeared in 13 games as a reserve for Auburn in 2009, totaling 12 tackles. Ford started his first career game the following season, registering 11 tackles and two sacks while seeing action in 13 games overall.

Ford entered the starting lineup in 2012, with eight starts at defensive end. His junior season was highlighted by two sacks and seven total tackles against Clemson.

He really emerged as a force in 2013, finishing the regular season with 12.5 tackles for loss, including 8.5 sacks in earning first-team All-SEC honors from the league's coaches and the Associated Press.

Medically excluded from participating in the combine based on readings of remnant issues from a 2011 procedure on his back, Ford put on a show at his pro day workouts that backed up his game production and his boasting -- both of which are considerable. His intense focus was reflected first at the Senior Bowl and then by dropping eight pounds in 10 days before his pro day. At 244 pounds, he looked like a classic convertible -- able to move from a 4-3 defensive end to a destructive 3-4 outside linebacker or hybrid pass rusher if necessary.

His pro day show included a 35 1/2-inch vertical, 10-foot-4-inch broad jump, 29 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press and a 40-yard time of 4.53 seconds. There is something special here. Ford is a vocal and physical leader who could pay the most consistent, long-term dividends of any defensive end in this draft -- yes, including Jadeveon Clowney. He would be a steal after the middle of the first round, assuming his back in OK

kccrow 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

**** this excuse "well we lost Tamba and Houston and our defense crumbled." Well, duh, I expect that to happen when you lose your 2 best pass rushers.

The Chiefs lack too many starters to draft for next year or for depth when you need starters at WR or FS or even RG.

This sorry excuse for a franchise always has something to throw to the fans. Dee Ford is ****ing overrated. The guy can only rush the passer, somewhat effectively and he can't stop the run at all.

This is a guy I would have taken in the 3rd round. Hopefully the guy becomes all world, because we just passed on Earl Thomas Part 2 and a whole shitload of very good WRs.

penbrook 05-08-2014 09:15 PM

WR class is deep this year

-King- 05-08-2014 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10613226)
It's a fine pick. Talented player, plays a position of impact, and a need.

I'm fine with at #23.

This.

We need a ****ing WR in a bad way though.

Mecca 05-08-2014 09:16 PM

Pretty sure this regime doesn't think nearly as highly of this team and it's chance as the fan base does.

Look at their moves and tell them they don't think it's a gut project and not a push for the superbowl one.

Rasputin 05-08-2014 09:16 PM

I hope takes Peyton Manning head off



Oh snap

O.city 05-08-2014 09:17 PM

Get him on the field with Poe, Houston, and Hali this year.

htismaqe 05-08-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10613188)
Good player, don't think the value was there AT ALL. Could have picked a day 1 impact starter at Safety or WR or trade down and do the same thing.. instead they pick a rotational pass rusher who won't be on the field most of the time..

We tried to trade down. Nobody was biting.

Kiimo 05-08-2014 09:17 PM

Call it what you want he's a backup luxury pick when we had GLARING NEEDS and the players available to fill them. Donnie Avery y'all. That's who you have to put your faith in. What a ****ing joke.

-King- 05-08-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10613334)
that .


good player if you ran a 4-3

With his size, he's probably a better OLB in a 3-4 than a 4-3 DE.

l4z4rd 05-08-2014 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10613291)
Absolutely. Guys that can get to the QB are worth their weight in gold.

too bad he was the slowest of the bunch.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...-sack-study-10

ptlyon 05-08-2014 09:18 PM

Well, here's to getting drunk Sundays this fall. Fall down piss and shit yourself drunk.

petegz28 05-08-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 10613310)
My concern is that I saw OT Jake Matthews from Texas A&M own Dee Ford. If he can do most OT's in the league will be able to do it also. We will see.

Was that owning before or after Johnny Precious was pulling Ford's dick out of his ass?

hometeam 05-08-2014 09:18 PM

injury prone

TribalElder 05-08-2014 09:18 PM

Dude, they still have tickets available
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/11/fap.gif

Buzz 05-08-2014 09:18 PM

Stretch, has good rubber band strength, likes to play in the box.

BossChief 05-08-2014 09:18 PM

Jimmy Ward or Marquise Lee would have been a better pick.


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