Texas A&M LT Joeckel is coming out for draft
 

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
Texas A&M LT Luke Joeckel is skipping his SR yr to enter NFL draft, per source as initially reported by @billyliucci
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no1curr

There is our #1 pick

can he play QB

Good thing we already have a solid young veteran tackle we can bring back, eh?

I'd hate to think this news is even remotely relevant...

It is just going to take everyone some time to get used to the fact that we will no longer be doing the exact opposite of what we should do. Pioli has broken the collective trust.

I would rather see what Stephenson has at LT than draft this **** at #1.

This will be our pick in every mock draft this year and next.

I'd rather see what Winston has at LT and Jeff Allen at RT with Hudson at G and Casey Weigman at C before I draft this **** at #1.

I will not, under any circumstances, support Jake Long 2.0 at 1.1.

Andy Reid more or less stated yesterday the team is going in a different direction than QB.

As the Wally penis gets harder...

No he didn't.

****ing mouth breather.

YOU CAN'T REACH FOR A QUARTERBACK JUST BECAUSE WE NEED ONE DRAFT FOR VALUE



BUT IF WE DON'T SIGN ALBERT, WE HAVE TO GET JOECKEL BECAUSE WE NEED A LEFT TACKLE FORGET THE OTHER POSITIONS

That happens to us, Cleveland, and Buffalo all the time.

Unsexy cities. Unremarkable teams. Boring. Subconsciously they want to see great draft picks paired up with teams that would look really hot with them. They don't want to mock any of the good ones to us.

Tackles, guards, DTs, and MLBs oh my!

Less.

As in, "didn't"

OKAY

Then mission failed by not signing Albert.

Essentially we get the #1 overall pick back by signing Albert.

This would be a disaster. See Cleveland & Miami. You don't build around a LT. You build around a QB.... And the #1 overall pick in the draft is suppose to be the person your franchise builds around.

Alberts back issues now have me a little concerned

The fact that there is no QB to protect seems to be lost on so many people.

the mocks are in boys, read em and weep

Or worth protecting, as is the case

While I'm with everyone that we need a QB; there aren't any high caliber QB's to be had with the no.1 pick IMO. Albert was up and down this season and Winston was outright terrible some of the time.

They are saying this guy is the best OT prospect to come out in 10 years. I would be behind Reid if he decided to take the BPA with the overall no.1 pick and then address the QB position in the 2nd round or trade back up into the 1st to get the QB they want.

I'm also confident we will be active in FA to find a "journeyman" type QB as a mentor.

He really didn't state that. We don't even have a gm right now. Do you honestly expect him to make that decision the same day he is introduced as the chiefs head coach?! We still have three months till the draft...

You know what really drives me nuts? People say this isn't a good QB class, but then go on to say we should wait to draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. Yeah that's brilliant! "It isn't a good QB class to begin with so lets just take one of the 2nd tier guys."

Who?

Who the !@#$ is saying that he's the best OT prospect in a decade?

He's not the best OT prospect in 12 months, IMO. Khalil is much better than Joekel. He's damn sure not Joe Thomas. The kid is just another Jake Long.

And next year's QB class is worse than this years (unless you believe McCarron can make the leap, but he peaks at Barkley levels, IMO) - if you don't take one this year, you're not getting a legitimate young QB in here until 2015.

Luke Joeckel the best OT to come out in 10 years?

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Its not a good QB class. If you have the choice between drafting a Willie Roaf or a Christian Ponder with the no. 1 overall pick. What do you think the best choice is for the future of this franchise?

The "2nd Tier" aren't any different in many respects than the "first tier".

ROFL

Yeah, you either weren't listening or you don't have a basic grasp of the English language.

i'm gonna run out of bullets before the draft gets here...

JFC lifetard alert!!!!

Luke Joeckel isn't Willie Roaf.

He isn't even Jake Long.

If Luke Joeckel is Willie Roaf then Geno Smith is Tom Brady.

Seriously, just stop. It's making you look stupid.

I think Joekel would "fit in well" with the Chiefs








Signed, Piolli

:spock::rolleyes::huh:

Luke Joekel isn't Willie Roaf and Geno Smith isn't Christian Ponder.

I'll go ahead and be lukewarm on Geno and Wilson for the sake of comparison.

Which would make this a better football team next year: Jake Long or Jake Locker?

A) Locker/Albert
B) Alex Smith/Long

A seems like a no-brainer.

Joeckel is not even close to being Willie Roaf. IMO he's not even an improvement over Albert

I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?

So I turn on WHB and they're taking calls...

Caller #1: What if we take that tackle from Texas A&M and get a QB later? Maybe we could get Matt Barkley in the 2nd...

Caller #2: If we can get the 2010 Matt Cassel - 27 TDs, 7 INTs - I'll take it.

Caller #3: You're gonna think I'm nuts but why is nobody talking about Chase Daniel.

wouldn't it make sense to kill yourself?

sure would save us the time...

You weren't blasted for having a differing opinion. You were blasted for having a WRONG opinion.

It's always the same - Geno isn't Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert. But Luke Joeckel is the next Willie Roaf, Manti Te'o is the next Ray Lewis, and Jarvis Jones is the next Derrick Thomas.

It's ridiculous hyperbole and a blatant double standard.

History has shown that when a #1 pick is used on anything other than a qb it usually doesn't work out. Long over Ryan is the most recent example.

Before it was Teo, now it's gonna be this guy.

Forget Long over Ryan. Let's just look at Long.

Pretty solid for his first 4 seasons and then started tailing off. Has had a couple of nagging injuries and now the Dolphins are hinting at needing to replace him.

Even without Matt Rayn in the discussion, that pick was a DISASTER.

And Long was a superior prospect to Joeckel.

anything but a QB

ABAQB

Look at the remaining teams in the playoffs. The majority of the teams are built around a QB not a LT.

There was a caller the other day who argued we should trade the #1 overall pick for Cousins... :shake:

Well put.

We're not getting anything qb worthy any other way. Even assuming Geno doesn't have the fantastic potential to be completely worthy of the No. 1 pick, there's still a lot of teams out there quite desperate for a QB. I don't care if the qb draft CLASS is weak, because we have the top overall pick.

Finally,

Some folk'll never lose a toe, but then again, some folk'll
like cletus, the slack jawed Joeckel.

True. In the end waiting on the QB ended up netting them a lesser QB and a broken LT who probably isn't even going to be re-signed

Are you ****ing with us or something?

Look how long you've been part of this board.....Have you learned nothing?

The venom in here is awesome.

fwiw.. Jarvis Jones does remind me a bit of Derrick Thomas.


and like I said to begin with, I agree that we need a QB very badly. I'm just glad we have someone in charge that can recognize QB talent and won't be afraid to look elsewhere with the first pick if he doesn't deem the talent level at the position worth of the no. 1 pick overall.

Not to mention that the year before the Long pick MIA chose Ronnie Brown at #2 and passed on Aaron Rodgers. IMO there is more risk in not taking a shot with a QB than trying to play it safe

Thankfully fans like you are why the Chiefs do not feel compelled to win a superbowl...

Good. We want more excellent talent at the top of the draft, in case Reid isn't completely sold on Geno and wants to trade down a few spots to grab a different QB. The more good non-QB talent at the top of the draft, the better for the Chiefs.

yeah.. I've learned that we have 52 players on this team and the majority of them are crap. I've also learned that when a franchise falls in love with one player they end up with Jamarcus Russell.

I'm really starting to believe that if the actual Willie Roaf and the actual Christian Ponder were in the draft. This board would crucify anyone who would say to pick Roaf.

Just seems to be QB or bust.

BTW... from Andy Reid's comments in the PC... seems that he isn't sold on a QB at no.1 this year either.

However, if we do take a QB with the first pick. I will be very happy.

Draft him and move Albert to LG!

You're blasted for offering nothing to substantiate things like:

"Joekel is the best OT prospect in 10 years" and "He's the next Willie Roaf".

Offer some substance and I'll respond in kind. All you've done is offer your spin on a tired debate without any facts to back it. As maqe has noted - many of us are tired of the double standard being applied to prospects at 'lesser' positions. If you draft Joekel, he's a surefire HOFer whereas if you draft a QB, he's the next Ryan Leaf.

It's just dumb and ultimately it's nothing more than a by-product of A) People in KC have had this anti-QB bias beaten into them and B) The unrealistic and wholly inaccurate assumption that you only take a QB at #1 overall when Andrew Luck is sitting there.

That's why you got blasted. Not because of your opinion, but because your opinion is the same re-packaged, ill-informed, wrong-headed tripe that we've heard for years.

I also saw this on facebook :banghead:

JOEKELYTES UNITE!!!!

The 'Albert to G' stuff started even sooner than I thought...

Because I'm sure a guy that was in the top 1/2 of the league at the highest paid O-line position in football is just dying to switch to a lower paid position in as a FA. Seems like a savvy career move, doesn't it?

People are idiots.

Here's a spin: You take the person at one that you feel will contribute more to your organization over a longer time span. I'm not convinced Geno is it. However, I, nor anybody outside of the Chiefs organization, make that call.

Ironically, I think if the Chiefs would have won a couple of more games and had a lower draft spot in the first the same things would have happened and we probably would draft a quarterback.

This place is going to epic meltdown status on draft day because I don't think Geno is in the cards.

I can totally understand where you are coming from. You are right, I have nothing but what I heard on the radio stating that some think he's the best OT prospect in 10 years.

But you have to agree that this is a very DOWN QB year.
-Everyone is charging ahead for Geno solely based on his big numbers early in the season.
Barkley was so/so and got hurt.

Assuming those are the 2 best options for the 1st pick at QB. They just both appear to be "Christian Ponder" to me. Game managers at best.

Just NOT the type of players you take with the overall no. 1 pick if there is a stunning player at a different position. Like a Jarvis Jones type guy who can really be a game changer.

We are not going to be able to turn this all around in 1 season, I'm sorry. We need talent.

Bunch of ****ing horseshit.

Get ready for it. His history shows he drafts OL and DL usually in the 1st rd.

Joe Thomas, jake long, and Matt Kalil were all the best LT in ten years yet they've all been drafted in the last ten years

This won't end very well...

lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.


Lets forget about the fact that we could potentially lose Brandon Albert and Dwayne Bowe, giving us 2 major holes to fill. Not to mention that we have NOTHING on the other side of Brandon Flowers.

MEDIOCRE college QB or BUST!!!

btw.. this is fun! lol

In a word. This.

Mostly due to him drafting McNabb and being set at the QB spot for most of his tenure

I am sure that has nothing to do with having McNabb for 10 years and not needing to consider drafting a QB...:rolleyes:

You really should just shoot yourself and save everybody the trouble because you are ****ing stupid.

True Fanz List of Non QBs to Pimp So We Can Avoid Having to Draft a QB at #1

Manti Te'o
Jarvis Jones
Luke Joeckel
Taylor Lewan
Bjoern Werner
Damontre Moore

Almost there, guys. We're almost done with the excuses from these idiot true fans.

Once Albert gets a new contract, they'll back away from Joeckel and Lewan and any other dumbshit tackle they want.

It will be down to Werner and Moore, and I think there we can point to the new defense we'll run coupled with ZERO need behind Hali and Houston.

It won't be long now, fellas. The tards will shut the **** up soon.

Jarvis Jones hype is over?

Derrick Thomas...


with spinal stenosis...

Oh shiiiiiiit, now you've done it

Spinal stenosis. I'm not even going to type out coherent posts if a true fan pimps Jarvis Jones.

I'll just say "spinal stenosis." That's it. He might reply with "Oh, does that mean he's never going to be good?" and I'll reply to that with "spinal stenosis."

That should do the trick. I encourage you to do the same.

Fair enough.

It wasn't just one team.

One well-known TV analyst said Jamarcus Russell was the biggest raw talent he'd EVER seen and was the best QB prospect since John Elway. That same analyst says there aren't any QBs in this draft worthy of the #1 pick. :hmmm:

Well you'd be wrong.

30 years of failure will do that to a fan. We've tried EVERY method to get a QB EXCEPT drafting one in the 1st round. That's the only method we haven't tried.

Andy Reid isn't sold on ANYTHING yet. He just started. He said HE HASN'T LOOKED AT IT YET.

i can't take it

first caller into 810 says, "let's draft that tackle jockey with the #1 pick..."

Is it possible for the walrus to not draft a QB with the first pick and still address the gaping hole we have behind the center? Sure.

But trading for Alex ****ing Smith isn't going to cut it. So he better have some magic ****ing beans if he drafts anything but a QB with the first pick.