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Who is/was more hated, Elvis Grbac or Matt Cassel?
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Who is/was more hated, Elvis Grbac or Matt Cassel?
Vote and tell us why.
I personally hate Cassel more, with Grbac atleast we had exciting games. |
Is Matt Cassel the worst person in history?
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Matt Cassel because the poll isn't up yet....
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Matt Cassel easy! Grbac had talent, he was just stupid. lol Matt has ughh, he's fairly tough? I cant think of anything he does good.
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I have no hate left for Grbac... that was more of an oversight by Schottenheimer to keep him instead of Gannon.
Now, Cassel is a good guy, but he REALLY sucked as a QB... and he is tied with Pioli, whom I have fiery inferno burning hate. |
Grbac seems like a rich prick
Cassel seems like a rich reerun. |
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But couldn't that be an argument that you should hate Grbac more? Grbac had talent he just didnt give a shit. Cassel tried but is the worst player in NFL history. This is why it's all so confusing. http://www.gamesdash.com/limg/1/158/...-dont-know.jpg |
No Steve Bono option?
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I always love this...
seems Marty wasn't the only one to get this wrong... http://www.jeffpearlman.com/elic-grbac-not-so-sexy/ |
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I hate Brady and manning more... Both our guys have bad genes and never had a chance.. JFC, they walk into walls!!! So thye are bad players, VERY bad, but I hate the other two dipshits more because they whine when they don't get their way!
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Grbac. His failure is his own fault, whereas Cassel basically maximized his extremely limited talent. I put that on Pioli for continuing to put Cassel out there.
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Which one was cuter?
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Steve Bono was a dipshit, and hell Grbac wore that stupid Indians hat during every locker room interview.
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Grbac never got a huge contract.
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I don't hate Cassel. I hate Pioli for bringing him here. Hell, I'd go shovel shit in China for $63M. Grbac, on the other hand, was a tool and forced Marty to choose between him and Gannon.
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http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/...sexy_elvis.jpg |
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One of my favorite all-time stories is about Elvis Grbac (left), Rich Gannon (right) and People Magazine's Sexiest Men issue from 1998. It is both outlandish and 100-percent true. |
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none of this is the players fault it's the coaches and GM's that chose them |
I don't hate either of them, it is just disappointing that Carl had to rely on the SF scouts for QB's and Pioli couldn't be bothered to actually bring in some real competition to take out Cassel.
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This is what you sound like. |
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As for the poll, I hate everybody equally.
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At least Grbac had talent but no heart or brains. Cassel had no talent, and the more I got a feel for him he was just as egotistical as Pioli.
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Cassel. And it isn't even close.
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Grbac was a talented dickface.
Cassel was a lottery winner. Grbac for the win. |
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ENOUGH WITH THE "MATT CASSEL IS A SMART NICE GUY" BULLSHIT.
MATT CASSEL IS/WAS AN ASSHOLE. Next person who says, "I like Matt Cassel the man, but I hate Matt Cassel the player" gets negative raped. |
kessel was terrible and I hate him I don't care how nice of a guy he was. there reaches a point where you have to admit you suck at your job. a doctor that keeps misdiagnosing shit still has to stop being a doctor despite liking puppies. kessel should have quit a long time ago. and also **** the GM who cannot be named. i hope he gets raped to death by the ghost of kessel's career.
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I hated Grbac for a couple years after he stabbed us in the back by leaving town just at the time he looked like he was coming around. The guy had some talent, just no guts. Seeing him crying on the Ravens sideline took some of the sting from my hate, and time has removed the rest.
Cassel should have never been brought to KC. He was here through no fault of his own. He was doing the best he could, and I can't blame him for that. He was by far the worse QB of the two. |
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In the end Grbac brought me some small amount of joy over three seasons (1997, 1999 and 2000, good years for him, comparatively speaking).
I got about 6 games of joy out of Cassel. **** Matt Cassel. |
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Cassel isn't Hitler, merely Goebbels.
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Cassel sucks, but the vitriol towards him is more due to the regime sticking with him and never trying to upgrade over him. He was never surrounded by a great team which he squandered, he just really wasn't very good.
Grbac should be the easy call here. He choked down the stretch in the '97 playoff loss. He was the guy who got in the way of us keeping Gannon around. He was the one who threw teammates under the bus when things didn't go well. He was the one who ditched this team after the team had been so loyal to him. He was the one who had little love for Chiefs fans. He was the one who, despite being surrounded by a superior team to what we have had the last four years, and despite being the superior talent to Cassel, still only won one division championship during his time (and you could argue Gannon won that down the stretch). Grbac in a landslide... |
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I can forgive Grbac, he couldn't throw it and/or catch it. Cassel is just all Omaha and no bite.
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I hate Matt Cassel much, much more. In fact, it isn't remotely close. Grbac at least had talent; Matt had nothing except an unearned, oversized contract.
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I can think of exactly one moment where Matt Cassel made me sit up and go **** YEAH and it was his first game when he hit that TD bomb to Bowe. I thought maybe he was the guy when I saw that.
Then we lost that game (mostly because he sucked hardcore before that one great TD pass) and it was pretty much all downhill from there. Oh yeah, there was the Titans game in 2010. That's it. One great pass in his first game and the proverbial definition of the sun hitting a dog's ass one year later. ****ing wastoid. |
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I sat there in disbelief while watching the first half of the Atlanta game. After playing unbelievably well in the first half he came crashing back down to earth in the second, with his dink and dunk flat passes and interceptions. I hate to say I was happy after that game. Happy that he had such a shitty second half, the only way it could of gone better in that second half is if a 747 happened to crash inside arrowhead, causing Cassel to take a direct hit. |
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One of these things is not like the other.
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Cassel
Zach Grbac |
Sorry, no. Cassel is a hapless fool and Grbac was a smug ****up. I've never hated a player like I hated Grbac.
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Cassel's suck is more fresh in the mind.
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I hate Cassel more.....because whether or not how big of a douche Grbac was....he was 10x the QB Cassel is....and that's all I care about.
I don't care about whether or not a pro athlete is a dickhead...I have zero relations with these people...they're here to make money and they do that by performing well. Cassel came in and virtually stole millions from the Hunt family and was the boy wonder of an incredibly arrogant and dickheadish GM. More importantly it was never Cassel's fault...just ask him. He never took blame for his shitty play. That's what pissed me off the most. |
I hate Cassel more. Four years of my life with this asshole are gpne. Nothing to show for it but depression and anger.
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Id say Cassel was more hated by far. But mainly because the overall team and organization was in worse shape than Grbac's years 97-2000. At least we were competitive for most of Grbacs time.
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I couldn't answer. The team is way more in shambles now but as QB's go Grbac was a major douche with no talent and Cassel just has even less talent.
Well after typing that out I have to say Grbac is my answer. Cassel was just a product of Pioli and those who were supposed to help him. He really had no choice but to go out and do is best, unfortunately is best was pretty bad. |
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Cassel, it is not even close.
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Hmmm... Elvis "I can't throw and catch it too" Grbac or Matt "I graded out perfectly" Cassel? That's like asking, "AIDS or cancer?"
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It seems as though maybe I am missing the point. Are we talking hate as in ability or overall why you dislike someone.
I do think Grbac was better than Cassel as far as Quarterbacking goes. But Grabac was a major Douche as a person. I think Cassel is an ok person he just can't play Quarterback. |
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Shoot - Grbac should be hated more. That guy was a QUITTER who SUCKED. Cassel just SUCKS - there's really no quit in him.
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Cassel by far; at least he had some talent, but was an arrogant prick.
Cassel has zero starting QB talent. |
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1st - Can you play. 2nd - Then I look at if they're a "Good guy" or not. Matt Cassel just flat out sucks. Grbac at least had some game. That's it for me. |
Grbac had talent he was just so impersonable.
Cassel is very personable but has no talent. |
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Grbac. Youngsters here who were still sniveling rug rats don't remember the level of disdain on this and other BB boards aimed at Grbac. That was before Facebook or Twitter and other social media could whip up vitriol campaigns the way they are able to now.
If Grbac were in Cassel's shoes he would have been run out of town way before Cassel was. I think most people realize that Cassel was A problem and not THE problem as it seemed Grbac was. Matt has less talent but he's not the target of locker room smear campaigns the way Grbac was. In the end Grbac was run out of town by his teammates. Not his coach, GM, or the media and many fans that were very late to get on the Grbackup bandwagon. So while it appears that Cassel is more hated, I think it was because it happened more quickly and intensely even though he has had more turmoil and change in his time here compared to Grbac, who had all of the pieces in place for him to succeed. |
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? Am I the only one finding this inconsistent? |
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Reading what you post makes me feel shame for you. Then I get pissed, because my parents obviously paid for your public education, and that money would have been better spent on... anything else. |
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see, I just figured Vermeil came in and wanted 'his' guy at QB. In fact, I remember Tony G publicly campaigning for Grbac to be retained by the new regime. I also remember Grbac throwing for like 4000 yards his last year here. Wasn't it against Oakland that year that Grbac threw for like 500 yards and put up 31 pts...but they D gave up like 50 and we lost?? Most single game passing yards for a Chief, win or lose, I DO remember THAT. Yeah, **** Matt Cassel. Grbac>Cassel The only way Cassel can throw for 500 yds is on Madden. |
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People didn't particularly want to dislike Cassel when he came here, but his on-field performance made it hard to do otherwise. Grbac was to a slight degree the opposite in that his on-field performance was better than his persona. However, his on-field performance was marked by mental lapses that kind of reflected his persona, so they melded together. I don't "hate" either of them. They both came here and wanted to succeed. They just didn't, so we have to move on. |
Grbac was hated for who he wasn't.
Cassell is hated for who he is. |
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He beat out Gannon and that's why you're bitter. You remember a lot more vitriol for Grbac than there actually was. |
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