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patteeu 08-21-2012 07:51 AM

Reminiscing about Hope and Change
 
Well, it didn't really work out, but with easy access to history through youtube, I guess my liberal friends can always look back at how much fun it was at the time. This is for you guys:

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Feel free to share your memories of Obama's faded glory in this thread and maybe have a cry for what might have been while you ignore the new reality:

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/a...1345067880.jpg

KILLER_CLOWN 08-21-2012 07:54 AM

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vailpass 08-21-2012 11:14 AM

I was hoping to see the input of the pro-obama posters here. Perhaps they haven't seen this post?

KILLER_CLOWN 08-21-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8838345)
I was hoping to see the input of the pro-obama posters here. Perhaps they haven't seen this post?

What you don't have the official Obama Joker poster at home?

vailpass 08-21-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8838349)
What you don't have the official Obama Joker poster at home?

There is NOTHING obama in my home, or in any of the homes in a wide radius around me.

KILLER_CLOWN 08-21-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8838365)
There is NOTHING obama in my home, or in any of the homes in a wide radius around me.

What would you do if the nicest people in the world moved in next to you and had hopey change stickers everywhere?

vailpass 08-21-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8838399)
What would you do if the nicest people in the world moved in next to you and had hopey change stickers everywhere?

There is space between properties where I live. In this case that would be a very good thing.

Comrade Crapski 08-31-2012 11:24 PM

http://thehopeandthechange.com/index.html

Fairplay 09-01-2012 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8838365)
There is NOTHING obama in my home, or in any of the homes in a wide radius around me.



About three blocks away from me is an Obama 2012 sign in their yard.
Other then that i haven't seen anything, those Hope and Change bumper stickers have been gone the last couple years.

I suppose i can understand voting for Obama back then.

But now? Well i will let his record and promises stand on that one.

Comrade Crapski 09-03-2012 02:27 AM

New income data from the Census Bureau reveal what a great job Barack Obama has done for the middle class as President. During his entire tenure in the oval office, median household income has declined by 7.3%.

In January, 2009, the month he entered office, median household income was $54,983. By June, 2012, it had spiraled down to $50,964. That's a loss of $4,019 per family, the equivalent of losing a little less than one month's income a year, every year. And on our current course that is only going to get worse not better.

Obama never tires of telling us that the economy was in one of the worst recessions since the Great Depression when he entered office, as if he was the only President to have suffered a recession early in his term. But nobody expected that he would use the vast powers of the most powerful office in the world to make it worse. But that is what he has done.

http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

D2112 09-03-2012 06:15 AM

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Oprah is crying

D2112 09-03-2012 06:17 AM

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Deberg_1990 09-03-2012 09:28 AM

My all time favorite....

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BigRedChief 09-03-2012 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8838365)
There is NOTHING obama in my home, or in any of the homes in a wide radius around me.

Reading this thread you'd think Romney was up 20 points and going to win in a landslide. No one opposes the Romney juggernaut. This is Florida, just one neighborhood but Romney has to take Florida.

Some of you guys seem stuck in some kind of Republican bubble. I thought I'd take this pic and post it for you to digest in your R bubble. All 4 corners of the intersection have Obama signs. There are 3 more signs within 2 blocks of these signs.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7...89d36bd6_z.jpg

patteeu 09-03-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8873903)
Reading this thread you'd think Romney was up 20 points and going to win in a landslide. No one opposes the Romney juggernaut. This is Florida, just one neighborhood but Romney has to take Florida.

Some of you guys seem stuck in some kind of Republican bubble. I thought I'd take this pic and post it for you to digest in your R bubble. All 4 corners of the intersection have Obama signs. There are 3 more signs within 2 blocks of these signs.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7...89d36bd6_z.jpg

We have slums here too.

Direckshun 09-03-2012 11:47 AM

This is a good thread.

I assume you miss SHITSPRAYER dearly.

KC native 09-03-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8874018)
This is a good thread.

I assume you miss SHITSPRAYER dearly.

Miss him? He's back again as Tom.Jay. The mods aren't taking out the trash despite their less than believable claims that they don't spend anytime in DC.

Direckshun 09-03-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 8874025)
Miss him? He's back again as Tom.Jay. The mods aren't taking out the trash despite their less than believable claims that they don't spend anytime in DC.

Ah.

patteeu 09-03-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8874018)
This is a good thread.

I assume you miss SHITSPRAYER dearly.

I'm comforted by the thought that he's fighting the good fight somewhere at all times. This thread was a way for me to post the music video in the OP. I liked the song despite the silliness of the lyrics.

KC native 09-03-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8874042)
I'm comforted by the thought that he's fighting the good fight somewhere at all times. This thread was a way for me to post the music video in the OP. I liked the song despite the silliness of the lyrics.

So in other words, you're bored and in full blown troll mode today.

Direckshun 09-03-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 8874048)
So in other words, you're bored and in full blown troll mode today.

Today?

KC native 09-03-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8874051)
Today?

Just noticed this thread wasn't started today. Sometimes being a stoner has it's drawbacks. :bong::)

patteeu 09-03-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 8874055)
Just noticed this thread wasn't started today. Sometimes being a stoner has it's drawbacks. :bong::)

Haha That's OK. Have another bong hit, listen to the Barack Obama song and drift away into the kind of oblivion that generates votes for the democrat party.

KC native 09-03-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8874069)
Haha That's OK. Have another bong hit, listen to the Barack Obama song and drift away into the kind of oblivion that generates votes for the democrat party.

Sounds good *walks away singing BARACK OBAMA BARACK OBAMA ROFL

Direckshun 09-03-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 8874055)
Just noticed this thread wasn't started today. Sometimes being a stoner has it's drawbacks. :bong::)

I'm just saying. Pat's MO has been long established on this forum.

BigRedChief 09-03-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8873995)
We have slums here too.

:LOL: All these houses with obama yard signs in the pic are worth north of 750K.

The bubble is strong with this one.

patteeu 09-03-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8874100)
:LOL: All these houses with obama yard signs in the pic are worth north of 750K.

The bubble is strong with this one.

Should I have said wannabe slums?

BigRedChief 09-03-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8874168)
Should I have said wannabe slums?

http://www.forumspile.com/Funnay-Out_of_reach.jpg

J Diddy 09-03-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8874075)
I'm just saying. Pat's MO has been long established on this forum.

If I had one word to describe it, it would be circular.

Calcountry 09-04-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8838399)
What would you do if the nicest people in the world moved in next to you and had hopey change stickers everywhere?

I would be nice back, but, would seriously call into question their discernment.

qabbaan 09-04-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8873903)
Reading this thread you'd think Romney was up 20 points and going to win in a landslide. No one opposes the Romney juggernaut. This is Florida, just one neighborhood but Romney has to take Florida.

Some of you guys seem stuck in some kind of Republican bubble. I thought I'd take this pic and post it for you to digest in your R bubble. All 4 corners of the intersection have Obama signs. There are 3 more signs within 2 blocks of these signs.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7...89d36bd6_z.jpg

Ah, how nice, you're in FL. I get the pleasure of canceling out your vote. It will be an honor.

BigRedChief 09-04-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8877775)
Ah, how nice, you're in FL. I get the pleasure of canceling out your vote. It will be an honor.

Thats okay, as you can see there are more Obama voters on the block than in your household. :p

Iowanian 09-05-2012 09:38 AM

Voting for Obama a 2nd time is like backing up the Titanic and crashing it into the iceburg again because it's not sinking fast enough.

A Salt Weapon 09-05-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8879541)
Voting for Obama a 2nd time is like backing up the Titanic and crashing it into the iceburg again because it's not sinking fast enough.

Well played sir, that was priceless.

qabbaan 09-05-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8877841)
Thats okay, as you can see there are more Obama voters on the block than in your household. :p

Yes, tell us more about your supposed ivory tower. We don't hear enough about it on a regular basis.

thecoffeeguy 09-05-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8879541)
Voting for Obama a 2nd time is like backing up the Titanic and crashing it into the iceburg again because it's not sinking fast enough.

LMAO

InChiefsHell 09-05-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 8877717)
I would be nice back, but, would seriously call into question their discernment.

I wouldn't talk politics at all. You can talk football with those people, and you might even grow to like them. Just DON'T talk politics.

Some of the nicest idiots I know are democrats.

Baby Lee 09-05-2012 12:08 PM

The Daily Show's 'Yes we can, . . But' montage last night was hilarious.

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ChiTown 09-05-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8879997)
The Daily Show's 'Yes we can, . . But' montage last night was hilarious.

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LMAO

Iowanian 09-05-2012 01:40 PM

Voting for Obama a 2nd time is like saying we should pump the Exxon Valdez full of crude and ramming it into an Alaskan rock ledge because the sea birds are getting too healthy.

Iowanian 09-05-2012 01:43 PM

"YES HE CAN" is now

"The best he can"

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...6BTXFAX-nN5Vnw

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8880287)
Voting for Obama a 2nd time is like saying we should pump the Exxon Valdez full of crude and ramming it into an Alaskan rock ledge because the sea birds are getting too healthy.

I just dont see how repeating the same policies as George W will be any better. Please enlighten me how it will turn out any better? Or is your opinion that George W policies would be better, that those were excellent policies.

Baby Lee 09-05-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881051)
I just dont see how repeating the same policies as George W will be any better. Please enlighten me how it will turn out any better? Or is your opinion that George W policies would be better, that those were excellent policies.

First, which policies have been overturned that you expect to be resurrected?

patteeu 09-05-2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881051)
I just dont see how repeating the same policies as George W will be any better. Please enlighten me how it will turn out any better? Or is your opinion that George W policies would be better, that those were excellent policies.

Repeating pro growth policies of the Bush years (e.g. reduced tax rates on capital) while avoiding big spending programs and costly tax cuts (e.g. Expanded tax breaks for dependents and low income rate cuts) would be economically beneficial compared to the "fairness" (redistributionist) policies of the current administration.

Afterall, it's the Republicans who more widely embraced the Bowles-Simpson commission findings which were largely constructive even if they avoided the entitlement elephant in the room (which was the reason Paul Ryan couldn't vote for them).

Bootlegged 09-05-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8873903)
Reading this thread you'd think Romney was up 20 points and going to win in a landslide. No one opposes the Romney juggernaut. This is Florida, just one neighborhood but Romney has to take Florida.

Some of you guys seem stuck in some kind of Republican bubble. I thought I'd take this pic and post it for you to digest in your R bubble. All 4 corners of the intersection have Obama signs. There are 3 more signs within 2 blocks of these signs.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7...89d36bd6_z.jpg

More pathetic - your love for Dumbo or the fact you stopped and took a picture of Obama signs to post on Chiefsplanet?

He could rape your mother, burn down your house and bang your dog and still get your vote.

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8881112)
Repeating pro growth policies of the Bush years (e.g. reduced tax rates on capital) while avoiding big spending programs

OMG, WTF patteau? Try to revise history much?

If that prescription drug program wasnt "big spending" just what the hell is "big spending"?

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 8881175)
More pathetic - your love for Dumbo or the fact you stopped and took a picture of Obama signs to post on Chiefsplanet?

He could rape your mother, burn down your house and bang your dog and still get your vote.

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

uhhh Hello, nice to meet ya. ;)

Iowanian 09-05-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881051)
I just dont see how repeating the same policies as George W will be any better. Please enlighten me how it will turn out any better? Or is your opinion that George W policies would be better, that those were excellent policies.

We could be $6 TRILLION less in debt....

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8881204)
We could be $6 TRILLION less in debt....

But, thats history. Now WTF are we going to do? We have a choice again.

Have you seen the BS #'s in Ryans budget? That budget will explode the deficit and run up trillions of more $'s in debt.

There has to be a different path that tax cuts wieghed heavily in favor of the rich. Surely, that not the best idea out there to get us out of this mess?

Bootlegged 09-05-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881314)
But, thats history. Now WTF are we going to do? We have a choice again.

Have you seen the BS #'s in Ryans budget? That budget will explode the deficit and run up trillions of more $'s in debt.

There has to be a different path that tax cuts wieghed heavily in favor of the rich. Surely, that not the best idea out there to get us out of this mess?

Ladies & Gents - It's Debbie Wassermann-Schultz!

qabbaan 09-05-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 8881420)
Ladies & Gents - It's Debbie Wassermann-Schultz!

I don't think he is Debbie herself, but I think he might compulsively wax his carrot when he sees her on TV.

Iowanian 09-05-2012 07:06 PM

Excellent Point. We now have a chance to fire the man in charge and ultimately responsible for such irresponsible fiscal policies.

Awesome.

Voting for Obama a 2nd term would be like bringing Tyler Palko back to QB the Chiefs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881314)
But, thats history. Now WTF are we going to do? We have a choice again.

Have you seen the BS #'s in Ryans budget? That budget will explode the deficit and run up trillions of more $'s in debt.

There has to be a different path that tax cuts wieghed heavily in favor of the rich. Surely, that not the best idea out there to get us out of this mess?


BigRedChief 09-05-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 8881420)
Ladies & Gents - It's Debbie Wassermann-Schultz!

dude, absolutes are not appicable to every situation or person.

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8881440)
Excellent Point. We now have a chance to fire the man in charge and ultimately responsible for such irresponsible fiscal policies.

Awesome.

Voting for Obama a 2nd term would be like bringing Tyler Palko back to QB the Chiefs.

I think Romey's plan will make the deficit worse than Obama's plan. We can not sustain those tax cuts for the higher income brackets and lower taxes in other parts of the tax code and magically think its going to create more revenue than the tax cut cost.

Bootlegged 09-05-2012 07:10 PM

For the 3 MSNBC'ers... I had the misfortune of meeting Larry O'Donnell last year on a TV project. He went on and on talking to the director about getting more acting work and that his agent discourages this because he can stay in cable news and collect steady pay for a longer term. Larry said he despises his job that he can "do in his sleep" and is "tired of spoon feeding his audience DNC talking points every night".

I'm sure the people that watch that network won't believe one of their own couldn't care less about what he says. But they don't believe a lot of truth.

Iowanian 09-05-2012 07:11 PM

You think.


Obama's plan doubled the debt increase under 8 years of Bush in just 4 years. Doubled it. Bush at least had an attack on our nation, rebuilding an democrat depleted military and 2 war campaigns and a busted realestate market.

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8881437)
I don't think he is Debbie herself, but I think he might compulsively wax his carrot when he sees her on TV.

I did do some "waxing" to Farah back in the day. She does have the blonde perm. ;)
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzI0WDIxNw..._id=8800005007

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8881473)
You think.


Obama's plan doubled the debt increase under 8 years of Bush in just 4 years. Doubled it. Bush at least had an attack on our nation, rebuilding an democrat depleted military and 2 war campaigns and a busted realestate market.

again, how will Romneys plan be any better? You just cant say... it cant be any worse.

The numbers, Romeys own numbers look like to me that he could make it worse than it is now.

Iowanian 09-05-2012 07:17 PM

Voting for Obama for a 2nd term is like sending your child to the Summer camp Sandusky is holding in his prison cell.


You're right....it can't be any worse. It would take a terrible vegas gambler named "the goocher" or something to run the economy any worse than Obama. Obama's record is worse than yours with white underwear.

I do agree though, it CAN'T be any worse, so why not start over.

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8881505)
Voting for Obama for a 2nd term is like sending your child to the Summer camp Sandusky is holding in his prison cell.


You're right....it can't be any worse. It would take a terrible vegas gambler named "the goocher" or something to run the economy any worse than Obama. Obama's record is worse than yours with white underwear.

I do agree though, it CAN'T be any worse, so why not start over.

thats my point. The deficit will get worse under Romeny. The revenue will never make up the trillions in tax cuts. It will just go on the credit card just like Obama did.

Iowanian 09-05-2012 07:23 PM

Well by that logic, if Romney will run the economy with the results of Bush, we'd be in HALF as much additional debt as we would with a repeat of Hopera at the wheel of the USS Titanic.

Bootlegged 09-05-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8881437)
I don't think he is Debbie herself, but I think he might compulsively wax his carrot when he sees her on TV.

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chiefzilla1501 09-05-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881455)
I think Romey's plan will make the deficit worse than Obama's plan. We can not sustain those tax cuts for the higher income brackets and lower taxes in other parts of the tax code and magically think its going to create more revenue than the tax cut cost.

Like any cost benefit analysis, you have to make assumptions about growth. And our federal entitlement structure is so messed up you have to incur cost to create long term benefit. For example, social security is broken, but you can't deny access to old people who paid into it. I despise that I'm young and have to pay into social security ill never see.

I'm not a fan of trickle down economics. And I agree, I hate that tax cuts and refusal to tax the upper class are off the table. I think those are stupid party policies. But I think those are much bigger issues than inability to address massively escalating entitlement costs. After all... Lower taxes is a simple fix. In the future, raise taxes. Entitlements on the other hand... Those won't be reformed unless somebody takes a bold step.

Baby Lee 09-05-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootlegged (Post 8881574)
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Now THAT is how you lie!!

None of that weak sauce RNC invisible dog whistles that are supposed to go off if you even mention Welfare, or shitty implied overstatement of possible responsibility when an auto plant you vouch for running another 100 years closes its doors.

BigRedChief 09-05-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8881597)
Like any cost benefit analysis, you have to make assumptions about growth. And our federal entitlement structure is so messed up you have to incur cost to create long term benefit. For example, social security is broken, but you can't deny access to old people who paid into it. I despise that I'm young and have to pay into social security ill never see.

I'm not a fan of trickle down economics. And I agree, I hate that tax cuts and refusal to tax the upper class are off the table. I think those are stupid party policies. But I think those are much bigger issues than inability to address massively escalating entitlement costs. After all... Lower taxes is a simple fix. In the future, raise taxes. Entitlements on the other hand... Those won't be reformed unless somebody takes a bold step.

I disagree. If the reports are true, the "grand bargain" between Bohner and Obama, Obama put entitlemnet cuts on the table in exchange for taxing the rich.

Dems arnt blind. Entitlments have to be reformed and curtailed but no ****ing way will I ever be in favor of that without the rich going back to the tax rate under Clinton. Thats not too much of a burden to bear.

Dayze 09-05-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8880287)
Voting for Obama a 2nd time is like saying we should pump the Exxon Valdez full of crude and ramming it into an Alaskan rock ledge because the sea birds are getting too healthy.

:p
Holy shit. Gold. Gold Jerry!

patteeu 09-05-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881178)
OMG, WTF patteau? Try to revise history much?

If that prescription drug program wasnt "big spending" just what the hell is "big spending"?

You misinterpreted me. I'm saying that some of Bush's policies are actually what we need now (far better than what Obama and the dems have in mind). It's just that we need to weed out the big spending from Bush and we sure as hell don't need the ultra big spending on non-growth programs that we got from Obama.

patteeu 09-05-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881314)
But, thats history. Now WTF are we going to do? We have a choice again.

Have you seen the BS #'s in Ryans budget? That budget will explode the deficit and run up trillions of more $'s in debt.

There has to be a different path that tax cuts wieghed heavily in favor of the rich. Surely, that not the best idea out there to get us out of this mess?

Have you even bothered to look at Obama's budget proposals where he ignores entitlements completely?

The Bush tax cuts were across the board tax cuts, not tax cuts "weighted heavily in favor of the rich". JFC, the poor barely pay taxes. How are we supposed to cut their taxes as much as we cut the taxes of real taxpayers? Are you serious about addressing the economy and the deficit/entitlement time bomb or are you more concerned with increasing the progressivity of the tax code?

patteeu 09-05-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881690)
I disagree. If the reports are true, the "grand bargain" between Bohner and Obama, Obama put entitlemnet cuts on the table in exchange for taxing the rich.

Dems arnt blind. Entitlments have to be reformed and curtailed but no ****ing way will I ever be in favor of that without the rich going back to the tax rate under Clinton. Thats not too much of a burden to bear.

Why Clinton? Why not Carter or JFK? What's so magical about the tax rates under Clinton? And are you going to insist that everyone else's rates go back to what they were under Clinton too?

Comrade Crapski 09-05-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8881505)
Voting for Obama for a 2nd term is like sending your child to the Summer camp Sandusky is holding in his prison cell.

LMAO

nstygma 09-06-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881690)
...without the rich going back to the tax rate under Clinton. Thats not too much of a burden to bear.

at the end of clinton, the top 10% paid 65% of all federal income tax. in 09, they paid 70% of the total. is that because more people are broke and the bottom 90% is growing? i would think the government should focus on creating more rich people to tax(that's who makes people rich, after all) than to tax any of the current batch into stagnation.

Iowanian 09-06-2012 09:47 AM

Voting for Obama is like sending your sexy, young, naive 19 year old daughter to intern with Bill Clinton on a tropical island with no adult supervision...in a miniskirt....at a viagra convention.

BigRedChief 09-06-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8882335)
Why Clinton? Why not Carter or JFK? What's so magical about the tax rates under Clinton? And are you going to insist that everyone else's rates go back to what they were under Clinton too?

no, 3% is doable. I'd like to see them rolled back to where they were under the R's hero, Regan.

patteeu 09-06-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8884292)
no, 3% is doable. I'd like to see them rolled back to where they were under the R's hero, Regan.

:facepalm: The Reagan rates were a package deal. He wouldn't have supported the high top rate you're advocating combined with the breaks he agreed to give low income groups. Don't invoke Reagan unless you're actually advocating something he would have supported. Don't be BEP.

BigRedChief 09-06-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8884434)
:facepalm: The Reagan rates were a package deal. He wouldn't have supported the high top rate you're advocating combined with the breaks he agreed to give low income groups. Don't invoke Reagan unless you're actually advocating something he would have supported. Don't be BEP.

So now you have a exclusive on what the dead guy would have done?

How do you know? He raised taxes how many times? How many times did he compromise?

patteeu 09-06-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8884631)
So now you have a exclusive on what the dead guy would have done?

It's certainly not exclusive knowledge. I suspect that there are hundreds of thousands of people who understand him well enough to know this. Were you tuned out in the 80s?

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8884631)
How do you know? He raised taxes how many times? How many times did he compromise?

He raised basic tax rates zero times.

He compromised on many occasions, including his final tax reform in 1986 that resulted in a top marginal tax rate of 28%. His goal was to flatten the tax rate structure. Then, as now, democrats wanted more progressivity. Ever since the ink was dry on the deal, democrats have been trying to push the top rate back up (with the help of GHWBush on one occasion).

BigRedChief 10-02-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8873903)
Reading this thread you'd think Romney was up 20 points and going to win in a landslide. No one opposes the Romney juggernaut. This is Florida, just one neighborhood but Romney has to take Florida.

Some of you guys seem stuck in some kind of Republican bubble. I thought I'd take this pic and post it for you to digest in your R bubble. All 4 corners of the intersection have Obama signs. There are 3 more signs within 2 blocks of these signs.


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/7...89d36bd6_z.jpg

Someone has stolen the signs twice, so this got put up
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8460/8...cdc2a3df_c.jpg

Baby Lee 10-02-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8881051)
I just dont see how repeating the same policies as George W will be any better. Please enlighten me how it will turn out any better? Or is your opinion that George W policies would be better, that those were excellent policies.

BRC in DC: The movie

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King_Chief_Fan 10-03-2012 10:51 AM

If you aren't paying attention...it almost sounds like **** Obama when it starts out...sometimes you hear what you want to hear I guess

InChiefsHell 10-03-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 8971820)
BRC in DC: The movie

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=2d17409ae2cb" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dude's lucky he didn't get his ass kicked...LMAO


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