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Red Dawg 09-30-2012 07:44 PM

WOW! Dead on target. Nobody with can argue with any of that, not even the slubs at One Arrowhead Drive. It will probably fall on deaf ears or not even be read as I truly believe Clark does not care about the Chiefs that much. Cassel is Pioli's biggest fugg up and at this point he may as well listen to the fans and bench him but he won't tell RC that. He must hang on to his ego. I fully expect the Ravens to end any doubt even in Pioli's mind that Matt can't be the starter.

This is truly pathedic.

Bugeater 09-30-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8965191)
I've seen college freshmen write better than this. The subjects are unclear, and the sentences are awkward. It's not like he's trying to explain something very complicated. He just doesn't know when to combine clauses or make new sentences.

Most of the people reading it don't know how to do any of that shit either.

tredadda 09-30-2012 07:45 PM

Outstanding article. Hopefully it reaches Clark and sinks in.

petegz28 09-30-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8965217)
Outstanding article. Hopefully it reaches Clark and sinks in.

:LOL:

BossChief 09-30-2012 07:46 PM

I don't put the blame on Clark.

He spent the money to bring in the guy that seemed like the best candidate and paid top dollar to do so. He has also spent a ****ton of cash on players Pioli chose.

Pioli traded for Cassel and made the bold move of giving him that reeruned contract and has refused to even try to upgrade from an obviously failed move. Then, slaps the fanbase in the face with lies about competition, insults to the fanbases inteligence like the release about Cassels stats and allowing the coaching staff to be undermanned every ****ing year with MAJOR holes and refusing to make necessary changes across the board.

In a normal situation, Pioli would only be responsible for certain aspects, but this isnt a normal situation. Pioli has tried to micromanage every part of the team and therefore should be held completely responsible for his across the board failures.

It's a shame...if the bitch had hedged his bets with Orton...the season might have been salvegable.

tredadda 09-30-2012 07:47 PM

Honestly all we need to do is replace Pioli. A new GM will most assuredly can Crennel and Cassel.

DaFace 09-30-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8965224)
I don't put the blame on Clark.

He spent the money to bring in the guy that seemed like the best candidate and paid top dollar to do so. He has also spent a ****ton of cash on players Pioli chose.

Pioli traded for Cassel and made the bold move of giving him that reeruned contract and has refused to even try to upgrade from an obviously failed move. Then, slaps the fanbase in the face with lies about competition, insults to the fanbases inteligence like the release about Cassels stats and allowing the coaching staff to be undermanned every ****ing year with MAJOR holes and refusing to make necessary changes across the board.

In a normal situation, Pioli would only be responsible for certain aspects, but this isnt a normal situation. Pioli has tried to micromanage every part of the team and therefore should be held completely responsible for his across the board failures.

It's a shame...if the bitch had hedged his bets with Orton...the season might have been salvegable.

I don't blame Clark for bringing in Pioli. I don't blame him for OK-ing the Haley hire, nor the Crennel hire. I blame him for continuing to watch the embarrassment that is Matt Cassel and not stepping in in any way, shape, or form.

I would hope that people around here would know me as a pretty even-keel guy who doesn't get too high or too low on the team easily. I'm considering doing something I haven't done in over 15 years - skipping watching games intentionally. I just don't see the point until a TON of things change.

DaFace 09-30-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8965227)
Honestly all we need to do is replace Pioli. A new GM will most assuredly can Crennel and Cassel.

That's true. Even if they liked both of them, they'd almost be forced into getting rid of them both just for the PR.

DaWolf 09-30-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8965217)
Outstanding article. Hopefully it reaches Clark and sinks in.

Fans not showing up will sink in. This was a good article, but I think the other article the Star had up that quoted fans coming out of the stadium saying that they won't be back next week or will be looking to dump their season tickets is more telling.

I'll give Pioli one thing: he's managed to build a team that's not just good enough to keep people's interests. He's instead built one of the most boring and inept franchises in all of football, and people will easily lose interest in this team and stay home. And that is what Clark will notice...

chiefzilla1501 09-30-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8965224)
I don't put the blame on Clark.

He spent the money to bring in the guy that seemed like the best candidate and paid top dollar to do so. He has also spent a ****ton of cash on players Pioli chose.

Pioli traded for Cassel and made the bold move of giving him that reeruned contract and has refused to even try to upgrade from an obviously failed move. Then, slaps the fanbase in the face with lies about competition, insults to the fanbases inteligence like the release about Cassels stats and allowing the coaching staff to be undermanned every ****ing year with MAJOR holes and refusing to make necessary changes across the board.

In a normal situation, Pioli would only be responsible for certain aspects, but this isnt a normal situation. Pioli has tried to micromanage every part of the team and therefore should be held completely responsible for his across the board failures.

It's a shame...if the bitch had hedged his bets with Orton...the season might have been salvegable.

Exactly. I think Pioli's built a much better team than he gets credit here for.
What's hilarious is that we know this team turns from shit show by making three key moves. Fine for Pioli to trade for Cassel, but he should have had competition in year 2 and he should have been canned last year. No excuse for hiring Romeo. No excuse for hiring Daboll.

And the only reason Pioli didn't make those moves is arrogance.

siberian khatru 09-30-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8965239)
I would hope that people around here would know me as a pretty even-keel guy who doesn't get too high or too low on the team easily. I'm considering doing something I haven't done in over 15 years - skipping watching games intentionally. I just don't see the point until a TON of things change.

I'm seriously thinking about skipping next week's game and going to see "Looper."

BigRedChief 09-30-2012 07:53 PM

got off reddedit, says its from ESPN

Is it time to replace Matt Cassel?
September 30, 2012 8:09:43 PM PDT
By Bill Williamson

KANSAS CITY -- It is officially dump Matt Cassel season in Kansas City.

Cassel has never been overly popular in Kansas City. The Chiefs’ playoff-hungry fan base has wished their team were in the hands of a more dynamic quarterback ever since Tom Brady’s injury replacement came to Kansas City along with general manager Scott Pioli in 2009.

My mailbag was flooded by Kansas City fans demanding Cassel’s benching Sunday, and I’m sure the subject will be the main course for columnists and talk radio in the Heartland in the wake of an embarrassing offensive showing by the Chiefs in a 37-20 defeat to San Diego on Sunday.

Expect pressure on Cassel to grow until he is either removed as the team’s quarterback or the team decides to move away from him after the season.

Much was expected from Kansas City this year, but with a quarter of the season over, playoff hopes are starting to fade as Cassel and the Chiefs are now 1-3. The Chiefs have been outscored by a league-worst 77 points in the first quarter, they haven’t scored a touchdown on their opening drive since the 2010 season and they are the only team this season never to play with the lead.

After an inspired overtime win at New Orleans in Week 3, the Chiefs had the chance to tie San Diego for first in the AFC West. But Kansas City quickly showed themselves, the Chargers and their antsy fans that they were not ready to become a first-place team. Kansas City, which finished with six turnovers, committed three turnovers in the first quarter and trailed 17-0. Cassel threw three interceptions as the Chiefs were suffocated by a much improved, dangerous San Diego defense.

The truth is that the Chiefs' offensive line gave Cassel little time to work and Kansas City’s running backs lost three fumbles, including two by beloved running back Jamaal Charles.

Kansas City right tackle Eric Winston said Sunday's poor performance was a failure by all 11 offensive players. He also believes “a couple” of Chiefs will likely take the brunt from the media. While Winston didn’t say Cassel’s name, it's clear he's expecting to hear calls for Cassel’s removal.

Winston is right. It has already started. Kansas City coach Romeo Crennel was asked after the game if he is considering a quarterback change, and Cassel was asked about it in his media session that lasted less than 90 seconds Sunday. Crennel said he is not considering a change. He said he stuck with Charles despite his fumbles and he is sticking with his quarterback.

I spoke to former Kansas City running back Jackie Battle about Cassel, and he expects it to be a tough week for his former teammate.

“I don’t think people were always fair to Matt (in Kansas City),” Battle said. “I like Matt. He can do a lot of things. He was my leader when I was with the Chiefs.”

San Diego safety Eric Weddle said he thinks Cassel is “super athletic” and capable of winning games, but he acknowledged that falling behind 20-0 is tough on any quarterback.

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“Next week, he will come out and be great and he will silence the critics,” Weddle said. “That’s the way it is with quarterbacks.”

I think Crennel believes that and that’s why he is sticking with Cassel. Here’s another reason why Crennel won’t make a move: Who would be Cassel’s replacement? The basis of any position change -- especially one as colossal as quarterback -- is the belief in the replacement.

Does anybody believe Brady Quinn would be a better option than Cassel? What about second-year third stringer Ricky Stanzi? Are either of these players capable of turning the Chiefs around?

If you think so, you’re fooling yourself, but rational thinking is often thrown out the door when a team hasn’t won a playoff game in 19 years.

If Cassel is pulled this early in the season, it will be a shame. He is the only quarterback available who gives this team a chance to win. He hasn’t been awful this season. Yes, he had a poor showing Sunday. But so did the rest of the offense. This offense was the No. 1-ranked offense in the NFL through three weeks and Cassel was a big reason why the Chiefs won at New Orleans. After Week 3, Cassel was a respectable No. 16 in ESPN’s Total QBR.

Teams bench quarterbacks when they are completely lost. Cassel is not lost. He is just not good enough right now to be the difference-maker, a reason why this could be his last season in Kansas City.

The Chiefs have the makings of a good program and they have a lot of talent. If they don’t make the playoffs and Cassel’s play doesn’t improve, I’m sure the team will seriously consider making a move and drafting a quarterback.

That is fair. If Cassel can win this year, then wait to make the change. The Chiefs decided to build around him this year. If it doesn’t work, it’s time to pull the plug on him. Just don’t do it now.

I think Pioli should have his scouts jump inside USC QB Matt Barkley’s mind. They must find out everything they can about West Virginia’s Geno Smith, Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson and Tennessee’s Tyler Bray.

It’s definitely time for the Chiefs to be thinking about a different quarterback for the future other than Cassel. But the future is not now.

BigRedChief 09-30-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 8965094)
The quarterback hand-picked and made apparently untouchable by Pioli’s faith and New England nostalgia has been booed in both stadiums at Truman Sports Complex and now has 10 turnovers in four games.


Priceless

To be fair, every Chiefs QB besides Montana and Dawson have been booed in this town outside of Arrowhead stadium.

tredadda 09-30-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8965239)
I don't blame Clark for bringing in Pioli. I don't blame him for OK-ing the Haley hire, nor the Crennel hire. I blame him for continuing to watch the embarrassment that is Matt Cassel and not stepping in in any way, shape, or form.

I would hope that people around here would know me as a pretty even-keel guy who doesn't get too high or too low on the team easily. I'm considering doing something I haven't done in over 15 years - skipping watching games intentionally. I just don't see the point until a TON of things change.

I disagree with the bolded part. What is the point in paying Pioli if he will dictate to him what QB starts? You can't be ok with whom Pioli picks as HC and then question his choice at QB. This needs to be the season where Clark started it by saying "You pinned your hopes on Cassel Scott. If he fails you will be fired." Now did any of that happen? Doubt it, but I respect Clark not micro managing those who work for him. Now I think he needs to fire Pioli after this season after 4 years of mediocrity.

BossChief 09-30-2012 07:57 PM

This fanbase has shown to be loyal, even during bad years.

What we WON'T do is continue to buy a product from people that think we aren't deserving of information about the team and outright lying to us.


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