Sutton wasn't the defensive coordinator under Ryan. He was the DC under Mangini.

Of course, he was also on Herm's staff.

Yeah, that was pretty much my point.

Hali is BEST at OLB, but he CAN play just about anywhere.

What would you guys think about signing Dic Seymour to a deal if he's released?

Be prepared for a year of shit defense.

These guys have been playing conservatively for four years in that shit 2 gap.

I wouldn't be surprised if we're one of the worst rushing defenses next year.

But then he would be running the Bill Parcells 2-gap defense.

:shrug:

We're just gonna have to see what these guys can do in a different scheme, I unlike others are not ready to give up on some of the more talented guys on the roster, like bailey, based on the cluster**** that was going on last season with what seems like zero direction.

I would almost expect the opposite. They have been caged so long that if you let them run free they are going to terrorize shit

Well, if you said it, it's definitely not happening.

Bailey has no quickness, get off or pass rush moves.

He's probably gonna be cut.

I think Clay's right in regards to the run defense.

They're probably going to sell-out pretty hard to attack those gaps and they'll end up abandoning run-fits. Worse still, the LBs are now going to have a hell of a lot more responsibility in that regard and they're not likely going to catch onto it quickly.

It does seem like we'll be a little soft against the run.

Anything better than that passive 2 gapping bullshit.

We'll see. That last defense that playe da 1-gap here was pretty good at stuffing the run and getting to the QB. But having said that every defense will have their strengths and weaknesses.

This is a great point. What happened years ago will HAPPEN AGAIN. IT IS WRITTEN.

He's not saying the 1-gap will fail.

He's saying it will struggle as these guys re-program themselves.

tha **** are you talking about? Bailey played 34RDE in a 2 gap against LT's you idiot. He's small/short for the position if anything. Had poor hand technique, yadayada.

And Poe is plenty quick off the ball -- he was playing 2 gap techniques as well, so he did not look real good this year, but slow off the ball he was not.

Dorsey is slow, but quick off the ball. so what. he's got nothing for the NFL. But at least he was given 5 ****ing seasons to improve.

Poe needs time, he's lacking technique -- that was his MO coming up. Had nothing to do with his ability to get off the ball.


You know what, you're an asshole for even tossing these guys out after 1 & 2 seasons. You know damn well DL players require 3 or more seasons to develop.