Lord I'm stupid. :facepalm:

JFC you are stupid.

You dont know what '12 means yet you want to tell people what they need to be thinking.

:facepalm:

Innocent on grounds of he played at Florida!

Cap'N obvious

Beat you to it you life sized placenta.

LMAO finally someone understands!

SEC education :)

Its just one of those things that cant be overstated.

Agreed.

Prosecutors give up on Carlos Ortiz as witness against Hernandez

Posted by Mike Florio on February 1, 2014, 9:22 AM EST
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The case against former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez may not be as strong as once believed.

Carlos Ortiz, once believed to be the star witness against Hernandez in the murder of Odin Lloyd based on the extent to which information apparently obtained from him was used to support search warrants and arrest warrants, will now not be called as a witness at all. Via the Taunton (Mass.) Daily Gazette, paperwork filed Friday in court indicates that prosecutors view Ortiz as “completely unreliable” based on the fact that his once-damning story has dramatically changed.

As a result, prosecutors could now be attempting the equivalent of a Hail Mary pass.

Via the Associated Press, prosecutors want to review Hernandez’s phone conversations in search of “coded messages” that could show Hernandez was talking about the murder of Odin Lloyd with his fiancee, Shayanna Jenkins, and/or his cousin, Tanya Singleton.

Prosecutors contend Hernandez discussed Lloyd’s murder in cryptic fashion. Topics allegedly included Hernandez’s “belief about his criminal liability” and the “extent of his control over persons charged as accessories.”

Even if that’s what happened, it could be a challenge to use “I took care of that thing”-style remarks to show guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. But that may be all they have, if neither Ortiz nor Ernest Wallace, the two men allegedly in the car with Hernandez and Lloyd before Lloyd was shot to death, will be testifying against Hernandez.

heh, I've been saying this for awhile. The case against him is not that strong. There is a good chance Hernandez beats it.

send em to Italy they dont care if takes 10 trials to get a guilty verdict. Foxy Knoxy style.

meh, what other suspects are there in the Lloyd murder case? I mean, the circumstantial evidence is there, is their a ballistic match to Hernandez's pistol? That would be damning right there.

Witnesses are the least reliable of all evidence. However, if there is material evidence that links Hernandez to Lloyd's death, then that is what will send Hernandez to jail.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brutal details being presented by assistant DA, claiming a chain of events that began with a spilled drink led to Hernandez 2012 murders.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/statuses/471715723501654016">May 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Anybody see his right hand that he had Blood tattoo on there.

The odds of Hernandez being found not guilty in the Odin Lloyd are increasing. There are no credible witnesses, really, and they never did find the gun. Now the judge in the case has thrown out the texts, in particular the one from the victim to his, errr, sister, I think it was, on the night of hte murder saying "I'm with NFL, just so you know" or words to that effect.

It's become a case of completely circumstantial evidence. He's pretty clearly guilty, but the evidence isn't coming together the one the prosecution would like, there is no doubt of that.