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Rain Man 10-08-2012 06:13 PM

Who do you think will be our Day One starter at QB next season?
 
Poll to follow unless I intentionally throw it into the ground to avoid a turnover.

petegz28 10-08-2012 06:13 PM

Cassel........(runs for cover)

htismaqe 10-08-2012 06:17 PM

Cassel.

SAUTO 10-08-2012 06:21 PM

I'm going to go full wickedson and say Geno Smith.


**** we have gotta have hope for something
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notorious 10-08-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8993385)
Cassel........(runs for cover)

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8993399)
Cassel.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/fo...indow_Fall.gif

Rain Man 10-08-2012 06:23 PM

I think Matt Hasselbeck could be our guy, as a dark horse move. We draft a quarterback in the first round, release Cassel for p.r. reasons, and sign Hasselbeck to a 1 or 2 year contract to mentor the Arrowhead messiah.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2012 06:25 PM

Cassel

rockymtnchief 10-08-2012 06:33 PM

http://www.tire-information-world.co...s-21319987.jpg

RJ 10-08-2012 07:19 PM

Tebow, huh?

You know, I hate to say this but it wouldn't even surprise me. That's sad, huh?

DJ's left nut 10-08-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8993430)
I think Matt Hasselbeck could be our guy, as a dark horse move. We draft a quarterback in the first round, release Cassel for p.r. reasons, and sign Hasselbeck to a 1 or 2 year contract to mentor the Arrowhead messiah.

That was my thought - Hasselbeck or Moore.

Alternatively, Tony Romo's a darkhorse candidate if Dallas can't get him re-signed. Clark has a shitload of money he'll have to spend and throwing some scratch at someone like Romo that could pull us off his stench may be just the trick.

Whatever happens, I'm sure it will piss me off when all is said and done. Pioli is incapable of doing the right thing, even when he does the right thing.

Dayze 10-08-2012 07:32 PM

Cassel

Bob Dole 10-08-2012 07:33 PM

Todd Blackledge.

Print 'em.

tredadda 10-08-2012 07:37 PM

I chose an older veteran backup for another NFL team, not otherwise named. It has been the Chiefs way for longer than I can remember.

ElGringo 10-08-2012 07:39 PM

No Brett Favre comes out of retirement again option?

Munson 10-08-2012 07:41 PM

This guy.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USA...16ac2a14e2a4ec

cdcox 10-08-2012 07:51 PM

Jeff George. /Big Sexy

Bwana 10-08-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 8993465)

LMAO

DeezNutz 10-08-2012 07:53 PM

If it's a draft choice, we have to hope that Pioli isn't the GM. Are we forgetting? "No one knows Cassel better than Pioli."

This is our GM; this is empirical evidence of his knowledge and skill set.

whoman69 10-08-2012 10:03 PM

This is the Chiefs. We go for the other team's backups.

doomy3 10-08-2012 10:06 PM

This is the time we've been waiting for. It will be a first round rookie. Let's just hope they pan out better than Sanchez, Gabbert, etc.

Bane 10-08-2012 10:07 PM

Shaun Hill.

Bugeater 10-08-2012 10:09 PM

Why the hell is Charlie Batch on the list? LMAO

qabbaan 10-08-2012 10:10 PM

Some chump veteran like Hasselbeck, while our 5th round QB competes with Stanzi in a clipboard hot potato contest

qabbaan 10-08-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bane (Post 8994348)
Shaun Hill.

Shaun King.

RealSNR 10-08-2012 10:16 PM

If it's not Geno Smith, I will smear poop on Rain Man's office window.

(I suggest you call up Pioli now and "make a deal" if you don't want to look at feces when you're at the office, Kevin)

Bugeater 10-08-2012 10:19 PM

Oh, and Rausch is going to be livid when he sees teh 0dd t0dd isn't an option.

Rausch 10-08-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8994336)
This is the Chiefs. We go for the other team's backups.

This.

We'll trade for the b/u from whatever team wins the SB...

Rausch 10-08-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8994368)
Oh, and Rausch is going to be livid when he sees teh 0dd t0dd isn't an option.

What's sad is I'm pretty sure a grey bearded T0DD could have taken over after Green, played here until he retired, and we'd probably have been better off...

:facepalm:

Rain Man 10-08-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8994336)
This is the Chiefs. We go for the other team's backups.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8994350)
Why the hell is Charlie Batch on the list? LMAO

History. History is why Charlie Batch is on the list.

Rain Man 10-09-2012 10:42 PM

As some background, there have been 66 first-round quarterbacks drafted since the year we picked up Blackledge. This counts a few first-rounders in the supplemental draft, but excludes the special draft of USFL players when that league shut down.

Here's the list of them by team. The only two teams that have not drafted a quarterback in the first round during this period (1984-2012) are Kansas City and New Orleans. (In fairness, we've traded first-round picks for both Montana and Green in the past.)

4 teams have drafted four first-round quarterbacks.
7 teams have drafted three first-round quarterbacks.
11 teams have drafted two first-round quarterbacks.
8 teams have drafted one first-round quarterback.
2 teams have not drafted a first-round quarterback.

Bills - Losman
Dolphins - Tannehill
Patriots – Bledsoe
Jets – Sanchez, Pennington
Ravens - Flacco, Boller
Bengals – Palmer, Ak Smith, Klingler
Browns - Weeden, Quinn, Couch, Kosar (suppl. Pick)
Steelers - Roethlisberger
Texans - Carr
Colts – Luck, P. Manning, George
Jaguars - Gabbert, Leftwich
Titans - Locker, V. Young, McNair, J. Everett
Broncos - Tebow, Cutler, Maddox
Raiders – Russell, Marinovich
Chargers - E. Manning, Leaf

Cowboys – Walsh (suppl. Pick), Aikman
Giants - P. Rivers, D. Brown (suppl. Pick)
Eagles – McNabb
Redskins - Griffin, J. Campbell, P. Ramsey, Shuler
Bears – Grossman, McNown, Harbaugh
Lions - Stafford, Harrington, A. Ware, C. Long
Packers - Rodgers
Vikings – Ponder, Culpepper
Falcons – Ryan, Vick, C. Miller
Panthers – Newton, K. Collins
Buccaneers – Freeman, Dilfer, Testaverde
Cardinals – Leinert, Rosenbach (suppl. Pick), Stouffer
Rams - Bradford
49ers - A. Smith, Druckenmiller
Seahawks – Mirer, D. McGwire

BWillie 10-09-2012 11:39 PM

Haha who are the ppl who picked 1st rd rookie? Like that is ever gonna happen

007 10-10-2012 12:01 AM

If Pioli is still here it will be Cassel or some other never was. You guys that actually think the Chiefs will start a rookie are fooling yourselves.

R8RFAN 10-10-2012 05:52 AM

Yall will not be starting a rookie at QB when Cassel's last 2 years are gonna be so cheap

AussieChiefsFan 10-10-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8997837)
Yall will not be starting a rookie at QB when Cassel's last 2 years are gonna be so cheap

That's also a reason that just cutting him isn't too hard if they need to

R8RFAN 10-10-2012 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 8997838)
That's also a reason that just cutting him isn't too hard if they need to

It sure is.....

TimeForWasp 10-10-2012 06:02 AM

We would have to look hard to find another QB who made it all the way through college without playing a single snap. We don't want somebody all used up in college.

BlackHelicopters 10-10-2012 06:03 AM

Len Dawson?

Deberg_1990 10-10-2012 06:32 AM

Cassel. Pioli cant quit him.

Imon Yourside 10-10-2012 06:34 AM

40 people really think a 1st round rookie will start for this franchise? Can I have some of what you are smoking/snorting/injecting?

King_Chief_Fan 10-10-2012 06:42 AM

It will be the current back up to Tom Brady

AussieChiefsFan 10-10-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 8997907)
It will be the current back up to Tom Brady

Ryan Mallet
http://static.nfl.com/static/content.../MAL262949.jpg

He has no NFL expereince. He's our guy!

htismaqe 10-10-2012 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8997892)
40 people really think a 1st round rookie will start for this franchise? Can I have some of what you are smoking/snorting/injecting?

No shit.

BlackHelicopters 10-10-2012 07:03 AM

Had a hard time voting as the poll was thrown with absolutely zero accuracy.

chiefzilla1501 10-10-2012 07:06 AM

Come on guys. Pioli isn't stupid. He's a good GM.

He knows Cassel isn't the answer.

He'll do the right thing. He'll use a player from the tree. Probably Damon Huard.

R8RFAN 10-10-2012 07:07 AM

Just remember Chief fans... Luck and RG3 are one in a millions and the odds are in favor of you getting a Jamarcus

AussieChiefsFan 10-10-2012 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8997965)
Just remember Chief fans... Luck and RG3 are one in a millions and the odds are in favor of you getting a Jamarcus

No.

BlackHelicopters 10-10-2012 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 8997965)
Just remember Chief fans... Luck and RG3 are one in a millions and the odds are in favor of you getting a Jamarcus

Can you find purple draaaaaaaaaank in KC?

R8RFAN 10-10-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 8997970)
Can you find purple draaaaaaaaaank in KC?

Probably find anything you want anywhere

Bump 10-10-2012 09:35 AM

anything other than a 1st round rookie is completely unacceptable and that rookie needs to be Geno!

R8RFAN 10-10-2012 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8998273)
anything other than a 1st round rookie is completely unacceptable and that rookie needs to be Geno!

Giver it up dude.... Cleveland is 0-5 and 8 other teams are 1-3 or 1-4

qabbaan 10-10-2012 10:41 AM

If its Pioli, some washed up vet

Discuss Thrower 10-10-2012 11:07 AM

Poll fail: No Alex Tanney.

Rain Man 10-10-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8998491)
Poll fail: No Alex Tanney.

How dare you accuse me of poll fail. Look again, my friend. Look again.

Discuss Thrower 10-10-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8998561)
How dare you accuse me of poll fail. Look again, my friend. Look again.

Wow, I fail. I fail HARD.

Reaper16 10-10-2012 11:52 AM

My gut tells me, regardless of who is GM, that Matt Barkley will be the opening day starter (the Chiefs winning too many games to draft Geno Smith).

CoMoChief 10-10-2012 11:58 AM

If Cassel is the starter of this team next year.

That will be the last straw...the final nail in the coffin, I will no longer be a Chiefs fan.

I will continue to post here...but it will be nothing but Chiefs bashing threads/posts.

Sofa King 10-10-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 8998608)
If Cassel is the starter of this team next year.

That will be the last straw...the final nail in the coffin, I will no longer be a Chiefs fan.

I will continue to post here...but it will be nothing but Chiefs bashing threads/posts.

That described 80% of the posters here already.

patteeu 10-10-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8997608)
As some background, there have been 66 first-round quarterbacks drafted since the year we picked up Blackledge. This counts a few first-rounders in the supplemental draft, but excludes the special draft of USFL players when that league shut down.

Here's the list of them by team. The only two teams that have not drafted a quarterback in the first round during this period (1984-2012) are Kansas City and New Orleans. (In fairness, we've traded first-round picks for both Montana and Green in the past.)

4 teams have drafted four first-round quarterbacks.
7 teams have drafted three first-round quarterbacks.
11 teams have drafted two first-round quarterbacks.
8 teams have drafted one first-round quarterback.
2 teams have not drafted a first-round quarterback.

Bills - Losman
Dolphins - Tannehill
Patriots – Bledsoe
Jets – Sanchez, Pennington
Ravens - Flacco, Boller
Bengals – Palmer, Ak Smith, Klingler
Browns - Weeden, Quinn, Couch, Kosar (suppl. Pick)
Steelers - Roethlisberger
Texans - Carr
Colts – Luck, P. Manning, George
Jaguars - Gabbert, Leftwich
Titans - Locker, V. Young, McNair, J. Everett
Broncos - Tebow, Cutler, Maddox
Raiders – Russell, Marinovich
Chargers - E. Manning, Leaf

Cowboys – Walsh (suppl. Pick), Aikman
Giants - P. Rivers, D. Brown (suppl. Pick)
Eagles – McNabb
Redskins - Griffin, J. Campbell, P. Ramsey, Shuler
Bears – Grossman, McNown, Harbaugh
Lions - Stafford, Harrington, A. Ware, C. Long
Packers - Rodgers
Vikings – Ponder, Culpepper
Falcons – Ryan, Vick, C. Miller
Panthers – Newton, K. Collins
Buccaneers – Freeman, Dilfer, Testaverde
Cardinals – Leinert, Rosenbach (suppl. Pick), Stouffer
Rams - Bradford
49ers - A. Smith, Druckenmiller
Seahawks – Mirer, D. McGwire

Of those 66 first round QB picks, I only count 5 that took the team that drafted them to a SB win (6 if you count Eli Manning since the Giants essentially got him with a draft day maneuver and a little help from Archie. 4 if you don't count Trent Dilfer). Did I miss any? That's depressing.

Rain Man 10-10-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8998641)
Of those 66 first round QB picks, I only count 5 that took the team that drafted them to a SB win (6 if you count Eli Manning since the Giants essentially got him with a draft day maneuver and a little help from Archie. 4 if you don't count Trent Dilfer). Did I miss any? That's depressing.

That is indeed depressing, because we're all assuming it's the answer. Apparently the correct answer is that you don't need a 1st-round quarterback, but rather you need a great quarterback. Of course, the only way to get one of those is in the first round or in some sort of 6th-round lightning bolt from Mount Olympus.

We still have 18 guys who are still playing for the team that drafted them, and most of them are young. So maybe the number will go up. And I count three more who went to a Super Bowl with their original team and lost (McNabb, McNair, and Grossman), excluding PManning. And a few others who made it to the championship game - Flacco(?), Kosar, Culpepper, and Alex Smith. So it seems like the performance curve overall is decent, with roughly one in five making it to a conference championship with their team. However, one in five odds isn't exactly our expectation.

Rausch 10-10-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8999601)
That is indeed depressing, because we're all assuming it's the answer. Apparently the correct answer is that you don't need a 1st-round quarterback, but rather you need a great quarterback. Of course, the only way to get one of those is in the first round or in some sort of 6th-round lightning bolt from Mount Olympus.

We still have 18 guys who are still playing for the team that drafted them, and most of them are young. So maybe the number will go up. And I count three more who went to a Super Bowl with their original team and lost (McNabb, McNair, and Grossman), excluding PManning. And a few others who made it to the championship game - Flacco(?), Kosar, Culpepper, and Alex Smith. So it seems like the performance curve overall is decent, with roughly one in five making it to a conference championship with their team. However, one in five odds isn't exactly our expectation.

Keep in mind it's also these drafted QB's that have gone to multiple SB's.

Brady, Ruthlessrapist, Manning, etc. That's like 8 SB's right there...

patteeu 10-10-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8998641)
Of those 66 first round QB picks, I only count 5 that took the team that drafted them to a SB win (6 if you count Eli Manning since the Giants essentially got him with a draft day maneuver and a little help from Archie. 4 if you don't count Trent Dilfer). Did I miss any? That's depressing.

Oops, I shouldn't have counted Trent Dilfer to begin with. That makes it 4 (or 5 if you count Eli).

Austin Ed 10-10-2012 07:06 PM

I am afraid that Cassel will be the starter next year if Pioli is still the GM. I am through if that is the case. I have been attending Chiefs games since the 1960s. Family has had season tickets for over 40 years. No more if Cassel remains the QB. No more. I can't take it anymore.

whoman69 10-10-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8998491)
Poll fail: No Alex Tanney.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8998561)
How dare you accuse me of poll fail. Look again, my friend. Look again.

Drop the ban hammer. Thou shalt not question the Rain Man poll.

Rausch 10-10-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9000017)
Drop the ban hammer. Thou shalt not question the Rain Man poll.

No Gaz?...


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