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Marco Polo 04-01-2013 03:07 PM

Ouch: PFW Evaluates Geno, Barkley
 
Sorry if Q

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...outing-reports

Posted April 01, 2013 @ 2:32 p.m. ET
By Nolan Nawrocki

The following scouting reports were taken from Pro Football Weekly's 2013 Draft Preview book, which is now on sale. You can order it today through the PFW Store, or by calling 1-800-FOOTBALL (Monday through Friday from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. CT).

QB Matt Barkley, #7
USC
PFW Grade: 6.03
Ht: 6-21/2 | Wt: 227 | Sp: 4.95e | Arm: 305/8 | Hand: 101/8
Notes: His father, Les, was an All-American water polo player at USC (1976-79) and brother, Sam, is a hurdler on the USC track team. A four-year starter who threw for 9,487 yards and 78 touchdowns as a California prep. Suffered a broken collarbone in his first year of high school, when he was allowed to call his own plays. Became the first junior to be named Gatorade National Player of the Year in 2007 after throwing for 3,576 yards and 35 touchdowns. Enrolled at USC in time for spring practice in ’09 and was named the starter in the fall as a true freshman. In 12 starts, he completed 211-of-352 pass attempts (59.9 percent) for 2,735 yards with 15 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. Became the first USC true freshman ever to start an opener and the first true freshman to start an opener at QB for an AP Top Five team since Michigan’s Rick Leach in 1975. Missed the Washington game with a bruised right shoulder. Had surgery on his right wrist to relieve stiffness and inflammation prior to ’10 spring practice. In the fall, threw for 236-377-2,791-26-12 (62.6) in 12 starts. Was sidelined for second half of the Oregon State game and against Notre Dame with a high ankle sprain. Had a record-setting ’11 campaign with 308-446-3,528-39-7 (69.1) in 12 starts. Set the Pac-12 record for touchdown passes and broke the school mark for completion percentage. Became the top signalcaller in USC history in ’12 after hitting 246-387-3,273-36-15 (63.6) in 11 starts. Suffered a sprained AC joint (type III) in his throwing (right) shoulder on a hit against UCLA and missed the final two games of his collegiate career. Finished with 20 USC career, season and game marks with 10 also being Pac-12 records. Was the winner of the Wuerffel Trophy, awarded for exemplary community service with athletic and academic achievement. Was USC’s first-ever three-time captain and had a 34-13 record in 47 career starts. Did not work out at the Combine to rest his throwing shoulder.
Positives: Thickly built. Experienced four-year starter in a pro-style offense with progression NFL reads. Terrific football intelligence. Good decision-maker — knows when and where to go with the ball. Throws on balance with a smooth, fluid delivery. Good enough arm strength to connect deep — can drop it in a bucket and showed improved deep accuracy as a senior. Good short-to-intermediate accuracy and overall anticipation. Tough and will deliver with pressure barreling down — good poise and on-field demeanor. Can sidestep the rush and manipulate coverage with his eyes. Outstanding intangibles and leadership traits — commands respect from teammates. Rallied comeback wins throughout his career, from the time he was the first freshman to start for a top-5-ranked team since 1975 against Ohio State, to Oregon (2011) and Utah (2012). Very intelligent with an engaging personality. Team tempo-setter. Can elevate a locker room, uplift an organization and represent a franchise with integrity. Very strong support structure. Is a pro’s pro and football is very important to him. Highly determined.
Negatives: Has short arms and average grip strength (student manager was fired for deflating balls). Does not snap it quickly and spiral is not tight. Heavy-footed and cannot improvise or create with his feet. Cannot easily manipulate his arm and throwing platform under duress and the ball dies when he can’t step into it. Does not drive the ball down the field with high RPMs. Not quick-eyed — many throws are pre-determined at the line, and he will hold the ball too long on some progressions. Can be streaky (see Washington). Never beat Stanford’s pro-style defense in four years.
Summary: A cool, confident, rhythm passer who suffered as a senior behind a leaky, injured offensive line that left little time to throw. Looked much more comfortable as a junior with an elite left tackle. Is slow-footed and could be more prone to injury in the pros and take some time to adapt to live NFL bullets. Leadership traits, strength of character and football IQ will allow to operate at a high level in a play-action passing game with a clean pocket and a talented cast of receivers. Can become a very solid NFL starter and thrive with a strong supporting cast. A cross between Drew Brees and Colt McCoy.
NFL projection: First-round pick.

QB Geno Smith, #12
West Virginia
PFW Grade: 5.39
Ht: 6-23/8 | Wt: 218 | Sp: 4.59 | Arm: 321/2 | Hand: 91/4
Notes: His cousin, Melvin Bratton, was a star running back for the Miami Hurricanes in the late 1980s. The Florida prep was a Parade All-American selection after throwing for over 3,000 yards and 32 touchdowns. Saw limited action in five games as a true freshman in 2009, completing 32-of-49 passes for 309 yards (65.3 percent) with one touchdown and one interception while playing through a broken fifth metatarsal in his left foot for part of the season. Took over as the starter in ’10 and tossed 241-372-2,763-24-7 (64.8) in 13 starts. Was the first West Virginia QB in 12 years to throw for over 2,500 yards in a season. Garnered heavy recognition for ’11 season, setting the Big East Conference and school mark for passing yards with 346-526-4,385-31-7 (65.8), in addition to becoming the first Mountaineer QB in history and only the second Big East player to surpass 4,000 yards in a season in 13 starts. Named Orange Bowl MVP after throwing for 407 yards and six touchdowns against Clemson. Set the school record and led the Big 12 Conference in touchdown passes in ’12 after tossing 369-518-4,205-42-6 (a conference-leading 71.2) in 13 starts. Threw for 656 yards and eight touchdowns in a 70-63 shootout victory against Baylor. Had a 26-13 record in 39 career starts.
Positives: Has a strong arm and can rifle the ball with good velocity into tight windows. Can throw with accuracy on the move and layer the deep ball. Good overall accuracy, ball placement and touch, especially on the fade route. Throws a very catchable ball — spins it tightly. Good escapability — can sidestep the rush, find an open throwing window and extend plays with his feet when needed. Outstanding straight-line speed — clocked the best 40-yard time (4.56 seconds) and broad jump (10-foot-4) of any quarterback at the Combine. Very durable, experienced, three-year starter — overcame an average offensive line, has never missed any time to injury and will play through pain.
Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition — forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics — does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor — no urgency. Not committed or focused — marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college — cannot handle hard coaching.
Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.
NFL projection: Top-50 pick

CrazyPhuD 04-01-2013 03:09 PM

Wait this means Geno might still be there for our second round pick right?????? PBJPBJPBJ

Bewbies 04-01-2013 03:10 PM

PFW has a problem with black QB's.

RealSNR 04-01-2013 03:10 PM

ChiefsandO'sFan is masturbating furiously

Hammock Parties 04-01-2013 03:12 PM

Not committed or focused? Everything we know about Geno is the exact opposite. Dumbass writeup.

Reaper16 04-01-2013 03:12 PM

PFW is either making stuff up about Geno's locker room presence and combine performance, or they have sources both inside the West Virginia locker room AND embedded in at least one NFL franchise.

I'm going with Occam's Razor and moving on.

Hammock Parties 04-01-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

could drain energy from a QB room
What the **** does this even mean?

Is Geno going to disable the tractor beam in the QB room?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6SBdf2ieG9..._211Pyxurz.jpg

Kidd Lex 04-01-2013 03:14 PM

April fools maybe?

ChiefsCountry 04-01-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9546634)
ChiefsandO'sFan is masturbating furiously

#masturbate

Sorter 04-01-2013 03:16 PM

This is the same guy IIRC who wrote racist articles about Newton and RG3.

I believe PFT has an article about it.

silver5liter 04-01-2013 03:18 PM

He has a bad work ethic? lol k

CrazyPhuD 04-01-2013 03:20 PM

Wait....Geno's not dating Nolan's daughter is he????

Dayze 04-01-2013 03:20 PM

"Geno is far from a top 10 pick" / Randy Mead

Reaper16 04-01-2013 03:23 PM

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...nolan-nawrocki

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-01-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9546634)
ChiefsandO'sFan is masturbating furiously

Are you hitting the wall?

AustinChief 04-01-2013 03:25 PM

This guy is just as likely to be correct as any other random speculation. The fact is, we don't know shit at this point. The preponderance of evidence is that his work ethic is fine but who knows.

The closest thing we'll get to real info in this regard will be on Thursday's Gruden's QB Camp... and even that is iffy.

RealSNR 04-01-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9546674)
Are you hitting the wall?

What do you mean?

Dante84 04-01-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9546624)

QB Geno Smith, #12

Positives: Good escapability — can sidestep the rush, find an open throwing window and extend plays with his feet when needed.

Negatives: Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler.

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keg in kc 04-01-2013 03:26 PM

Well, I liked him until I read what QB expert Nolan Nawrocki had to say. Now my mind is changed. Or not.

ModSocks 04-01-2013 03:27 PM

I find it odd how Barkley gets absolutely glowing reviews and even gets compared to Drew Brees while Geno Smith gets completely shit on...all of which is in the contrary to nearly every opinion out there.

Hrmmmm....

Dante84 04-01-2013 03:27 PM

This is the same guy who slammed Cam and RG3.

Mother****erJones 04-01-2013 03:28 PM

Ya because I'll listen to PFW over a team's evaluation

Sorter 04-01-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9546688)
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ROFL

Dayze 04-01-2013 03:28 PM

this organization had better pray that if they pass on a QB in the first considering they have the #1 overall pick for the first ever, that whoever they pass on doesnt become a good player.


if they pass, and that QB turns around and is a stud, then it's obvious the Chifes FO is letting a monkey make their QB picks.

ModSocks 04-01-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9546688)
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yeah, i was gonna mention that too. Something is up with this article. Biased? But why?

Dante84 04-01-2013 03:30 PM

Barkley: A cross between Drew Brees and Colt McCoy.

Geno: A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks

Wes Welker is the same as Eric Decker, and Boomer Grigsby is Mike Alstott.

Sorter 04-01-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9546692)
I find it odd how Barkley gets absolutely glowing reviews and even gets compared to Drew Brees while Geno Smith gets completely shit on...all of which is in the contrary to nearly every opinion out there.

Hrmmmm....

The Akili Smith reference is the one that immediately makes me think it's race based.

There is literally nothing the two have in common as far as QBs other than their skin color and last names.

saphojunkie 04-01-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9546701)
yeah, i was gonna mention that too. Something is up with this article. Biased? But why?

It seems to me it's pretty black and white...

TEX 04-01-2013 03:35 PM

I'd take Barkley over Smith as well. Been saying it all along. Smith scares me - I think he's a product of the system.

Bewbies 04-01-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9546670)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4...lh1io1_500.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4...lh1io2_500.gif

ModSocks 04-01-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9546727)
I'd take Barkley over Smith as well. Been saying it all along. Smith scares me - I think he's a product of the system.

But hasn't he played in 3 different systems?

Sorter 04-01-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9546727)
I'd take Barkley over Smith as well. Been saying it all along. Smith scares me - I think he's a product of the system.

Please enlighten me as to why you think that. LMAO

Canofbier 04-01-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9546734)
Please enlighten me as to why you think that. LMAO

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hE-YVPAWMj...TONE_CHART.jpg

HonestChieffan 04-01-2013 03:40 PM

On the positive side, he is a quarterback. Lets not get real negative. Keep it real simple and have some other guy do that leadership thing. Don't schedule too much film time and they guy could be right up there.

RealSNR 04-01-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9546734)
Please enlighten me as to why you think that. LMAO

You've been such an asshole to people who disagree with you on Geno Smith, bro. Now there's some hell to pay, and Dane's going to be sure of that!

TEX 04-01-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9546731)
But hasn't he played in 3 different systems?

Yes. Just something about him makes me very cautious. Maybe it's the failure in some big games - I don't know - because he has also played well in some. I think he has more upside than Barkley, BUT also more potential for failure. Barkley had it all two seasons ago and to me just seems more steady - less risk. The only thing I don't like about him is the injury.

MahiMike 04-01-2013 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9546631)
Wait this means Geno might still be there for our second round pick right?????? PBJPBJPBJ

3rd?

Sorter 04-01-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9546761)
Yes. just something about him makes me very cautious. Maybe it's the failure in some big games - I don't know - because he has also played well in some. I think he has more upside than Barkley, BUT also more potential for failure. Barkley had is all two seasons ago and to me just seems more steady - less risk. The only thing I don't like about him is the injury.

Again, tell me how Geno is a "product of the system".

I would love to learn from your in depth knowledge of the lack of similarity of progressions, route designs/concepts, and blocking schemes from the AirRaid and the NFL.

*inb4 "well, they throw a lot of screens*

silver5liter 04-01-2013 03:46 PM

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...nolan-nawrocki

Deberg_1990 04-01-2013 03:48 PM

Luke Joeckel approves this thread!

RealSNR 04-01-2013 04:03 PM

Also, outside of his shoulder this year, Barkley has no injury history. He's very sturdy.

Chiefaholic 04-01-2013 04:08 PM

Despite CP's opinion, I'd take Andy Reids opinion of Geno over any armchair QB. I WANT the Chiefs to draft Geno, more due to desperation for a QB than facts that prove him to be a legit franchise QB. If Andy sees Geno as a legit franchise QB, he'll draft him.

BryanBusby 04-01-2013 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9546694)
This is the same guy who slammed Cam and RG3.

He also questioned Russel Wilson's commitment to football. Either this dude is racist, or literally reeruned.

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9546634)
ChiefsandO'sFan is masturbating furiously

Are you curled up in the fetal position yet?

Chiefspants 04-01-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9546761)
Yes. Just something about him makes me very cautious. Maybe it's the failure in some big games - I don't know - because he has also played well in some. I think he has more upside than Barkley, BUT also more potential for failure. Barkley had it all two seasons ago and to me just seems more steady - less risk. The only thing I don't like about him is the injury.

70-33

hometeam 04-01-2013 04:14 PM

This guy shits on any black QB. Known quantity.

Chiefspants 04-01-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9546888)
He also questioned Russel Wilson's commitment to football.

LOL

RealSNR 04-01-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 9546888)
He also questioned Russel Wilson's commitment to football. Either this dude is racist, or literally reeruned.

Good ****ing God LMAO LMAO LMAO

He's the CoMo of football bloggers. Geno's a surefire HOFer now!

Sorter 04-01-2013 04:21 PM

Come on TEX, I'm still waiting...


ROFL

keg in kc 04-01-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9546855)
Also, outside of his shoulder this year, Barkley has no injury history. He's very sturdy.

I read that as "studly". NTTAWWT.

BryanBusby 04-01-2013 04:49 PM

@kfishbain
I don't know anyone who works harder or is more connected (GMs, coaches, scouts) than colleague Nolan Nawrocki. Criticism is comical.

hahaha

"Geno Smith is brown and uh he's brown, definitely not a team player. **** that shit. You ****ing dare question me? I got connections"

In58men 04-01-2013 04:54 PM

These threads are ****ing stupid. Just quit with this bullshit.

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 04:56 PM

All the Geno dry humpin threads make the smart football guys on this forum look bad.

Chiefspants 04-01-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547089)
All the Geno dry humpin threads make the smart football guys on this forum look bad.

Excited about Matt Floon?

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9547111)
Excited about Matt Floon?

I am excited about the possibility he presents and the price we paid for him. Too soon to tell other than that because I am not a nut hugging Homer

RealSNR 04-01-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547121)
I am excited about the possibility he presents and the price we paid for him. Too soon to tell other than that because I am not a nut hugging Homer

You learned your lesson from Carson Palmer, I take it

alanm 04-01-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9546695)
Ya because I'll listen to PFW over a team's evaluation

Anyone know what the Chiefs really think of him.

I still think the Chiefs are trading out of #1

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9547124)
You learned your lesson from Carson Palmer, I take it

Go Suck on your Geno blow up doll LMAO

silver5liter 04-01-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS 2h

Not guaranteeing Geno Smith will be a great NFL QB but was around him a lot in college to know he very much IS a student of the game.
Retweeted by SC_DougFarrar
I can post things too

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:17 PM

Come get your Geno Guice

RealSNR 04-01-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547129)
Go Suck on your Geno blow up doll LMAO

But seriously, you said some pretty foolish things about Carson Palmer.

Chiefspants 04-01-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9547161)
But seriously, you said some pretty foolish things about Carson Palmer.

In the end, I think the Raiders came out on top in that deal.

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9547161)
But seriously, you said some pretty foolish things about Carson Palmer.

Palmer is a 4000+ Yard per season QB... He was not the problem, His salary was..

Palmer is still a better QB than anything on the Chiefs roster past or present since Montana

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9547175)
In the end, I think the Raiders came out on top in that deal.

No it was a stupid trade in hindsight

The Money was one things but the picks hurt worse.

Al would not have made that trade nor would Reggie.. That was a Hue Jackson call and thats why coaches are not GM's

hometeam 04-01-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547190)
Palmer is a 4000+ Yard per season QB... He was not the problem, His salary was..

Palmer is still a better QB than anything on the Chiefs roster past or present since Montana

Trent Green =/= Carson Palmer

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9547206)
Trent Green =/= Carson Palmer

tRINT :LOL:

BryanBusby 04-01-2013 05:32 PM

People love taking the R8ers troll bait.

Three7s 04-01-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547214)
tRINT :LOL:

Good enough to beat the Raiders how many consecutive times? 8 was it? I forgot.

R8RFAN 04-01-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9547225)
Good enough to beat the Raiders how many consecutive times? 8 was it? I forgot.

Wow... and how many playoff games did he win?

nychief 04-01-2013 05:42 PM

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...ith-character/

Sorter 04-01-2013 08:59 PM

Still ****ing waiting on TEX.

Come on big boy, you think Geno's a "product of the system". Clearly you shouldn't have any problem in digging up some nice knowledge.

ROFL.

Gravedigger 04-01-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9547235)
Wow... and how many playoff games did he win?

How many did Carson win? Oh yeah he wasn't shit after the Steelers blew out his knee. Carson is a washed up bitch of a baby, he's that delusional older QB that thinks he can still play in today's game when every choice he makes leads him to worse and worse teams. Started with being drafted by Cincy, then to Oakland (how'd that help your career?), and now to Arizona (where his only competition is Lindley and Stanton). The one thing that the Raiders and Carson Palmer had in common was being caught in a black hole and going nowhere.

KC native 04-01-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9547844)
Still ****ing waiting on TEX.

Come on big boy, you think Geno's a "product of the system". Clearly you shouldn't have any problem in digging up some nice knowledge.

ROFL.

Haven't you learned CP yet? There are a ton of posters that love to sound informed so they find one line of argument that sounds plausible and drill it into the ground.

It's one of the main reasons I refrain from a lot of the football conversations.

Edit: That said there are a lot of people who do know the game here and give good takes. That's why I come here.

Sorter 04-01-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9548060)
Haven't you learned CP yet? There are a ton of posters that love to sound informed so they find one line of argument that sounds plausible and drill it into the ground.

It's one of the main reasons I refrain from a lot of the football conversations.

Edit: That said there are a lot of people who do know the game here and give good takes. That's why I come here.

But I was so excited. :(

KC native 04-01-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9548075)
But I was so excited. :(

watch the whole thing

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lMqZ-BAjVyQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sorter 04-01-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 9548082)
watch the whole thing

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lMqZ-BAjVyQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAOLMAO

rich, mon frere. Rich indeed.

wazu 04-01-2013 10:41 PM

This article might as well have been written by the Nazis or the Westboro Baptist Church for all of it's credibility. PFW just made my shit list for publishing it.

RyFo18 04-02-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9546655)
This is the same guy IIRC who wrote racist articles about Newton and RG3.

I believe PFT has an article about it.

Yep. He said Cam had a "fake smile." GTFO

If anything, this just means Geno will be a stud.

Hammock Parties 04-02-2013 08:27 AM

@BFeldmanCBS Work ethic knock on Geno is total BS. Spent more hours in WVU FB bldg after midnight than custodial crew

Just Passin' By 04-02-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9548144)
This article might as well have been written by the Nazis or the Westboro Baptist Church for all of it's credibility. PFW just made my shit list for publishing it.

Todd McShay disagreed with a fair bit of it regarding the so-called intangibles, but he agreed with some of it, as well, so it's not just one source.


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