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ILChief 01-11-2013 02:23 PM
IF we are determined to trade down I would trade down very far. Five or six would be the farthest

HolyHat 01-11-2013 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9306143)
Yeah USC is so ****ing talented they can plug anybody in and still kick ass:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323660059
14/37
107 yards
1 TD
3 INT

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=323290030
14/28
186 yards
1 TD
2 INT

USC went from scoring 39.7 to 10 a game without Barkley.
Passing yards went from 327.3 per game to 146.5.

But its all about the WRs that USC has. Any QB can step in and be a superstar.

Sure, Barkley has had 4 years. The kid that stepped in for him had 4 minutes.

Bewbies 01-11-2013 02:27 PM
The two biggest differences between Barkley and Cassel is that Barkley was at least good enough to play QB in college.

Also, Fat Scott will never be writing Barkley a $63,000,000 check.

ChiefsCountry 01-11-2013 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9306154)
Sure, Barkley has had 4 years. The kid that stepped in for him had 4 minutes.
But your dumbass said anybody can step in and be a stud at USC. Apparently that isn't the case ****head.

ct 01-11-2013 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9306109)
I wouldn't love it, but with Reid as the coach, Barkley would work.

I've said for awhile that Barkley's going to be a solid QB in this league but he will absolutely have to go to a WCO. Well Reid's his guy then.

On the other hand, Reid has generally favored a more aggressive WCO; it uses the hitches, outs, etc... to utilize all 4 intermediate zones, but he also likes to push the ball upfield to keep defenders honest.

To my eyes, he's the most aggressive of the WCO practitioners. Can Barkley really thrive if Reid is trying to push the ball downfield? Oh, and can we really use 1.1 on a guy who's shoulder may/may not be sound?

Barkley is a sensible option, but certainly not my favorite.
I think you're on top of it. He runs a WCO based system, but most definitely wants to stretch the defense often. I don't see Barkley as a fit at all personally. But what do I know right? I'd still take Geno #1.

HolyHat 01-11-2013 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9306170)
But your dumbass said anybody can step in and be a stud at USC. Apparently that isn't the case ****head.
Real Mature. You can keep using google for you Barkley stats and what not while the rest of us have an adult conversation. You take things so personal. Relax. In case you forgot we are on the same team here. But whatever makes you feel better about pissing on your balls

ChiefsCountry 01-11-2013 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9306183)
Real Mature. You can keep using google for you Barkley stats and what not while the rest of us have an adult conversation. You take things so personal. Relax. In case you forgot we are on the same team here. But whatever makes you feel better about pissing on your balls
Bitter. You are an idiot. Don't say stupid shit and when its backed up by facts cry like a little girl.

HolyHat 01-11-2013 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9306236)
Bitter. You are an idiot. Don't say stupid shit and when its backed up by facts cry like a little girl.
Who's the one crying? And what facts did you present?

Are you somehow related to Barkley?

Bewbies 01-11-2013 02:55 PM
Would you bitches **** and get it over with?

ChiefsCountry 01-11-2013 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9306087)
You can plug in just about any QB with some sort of skill at USC. Thats what i'm saying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9306243)
Who's the one crying? And what facts did you present?

Are you somehow related to Barkley?
This douche.

Quote:
Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9306087)
You can plug in just about any QB with some sort of skill at USC. Thats what i'm saying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9306143)
Yeah USC is so ****ing talented they can plug anybody in and still kick ass:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=323660059
14/37
107 yards
1 TD
3 INT

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=323290030
14/28
186 yards
1 TD
2 INT

USC went from scoring 39.7 to 10 a game without Barkley.
Passing yards went from 327.3 per game to 146.5.

But its all about the WRs that USC has. Any QB can step in and be a superstar.

O.city 01-11-2013 02:59 PM
Barkley doesnt' have a cannon but he's PLENTY good enough to be successful if in the right system.


Which is pretty much the same with any QB in the league. There are 1 or 2 guys at QB int he NFL right now who would fit in any scheme. For the most part, you have to match the QB up with the right system.

Ace Gunner 01-11-2013 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9306097)
LMAO at this thread.

The Reid honeymoon is OVER bitches!

Now lets get back to telling each other just how ****ing STUPID we are.
ROFL rep

DJ's left nut 01-11-2013 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9306257)
Barkley doesnt' have a cannon but he's PLENTY good enough to be successful if in the right system.


Which is pretty much the same with any QB in the league. There are 1 or 2 guys at QB int he NFL right now who would fit in any scheme. For the most part, you have to match the QB up with the right system.
But is that system Andy Reids? And if so, what is it that Barkley has that someone a round later wouldn't? Is he just another Dalton?

I think it's fair to ask if it makes sense to use a pick that high on someone that's only going to succeed because the system is so QB friendly.

O.city 01-11-2013 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9306270)
But is that system Andy Reids? And if so, what is it that Barkley has that someone a round later wouldn't? Is he just another Dalton?

I think it's fair to ask if it makes sense to use a pick that high on someone that's only going to succeed because the system is so QB friendly.
I wasn't saying specifically here, just a generality statement.

I absolutely don't want another Dalton.

I think at this point, it'll be Wilson or Smith. Both have potential upside to be not just managers but legit QB's.

FringeNC 01-11-2013 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by @KCsporting (Post 9306183)
Real Mature. You can keep using google for you Barkley stats and what not while the rest of us have an adult conversation. You take things so personal. Relax. In case you forgot we are on the same team here. But whatever makes you feel better about pissing on your balls
You could also make an argument that you could stick any QB in an Air Raid offense, and he's going to put up scary numbers:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...942/seth-doege

Very, very similar to Geno's numbers, and no Tayvon Austin.

Evaluating college QBs is tough. No one thinks Doege is a legit prospect, despite having nearly the same stats as Smith.


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