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DaFace 11-30-2014 11:51 AM

Week 13 Rooting Guide (and now "other games thread")
 
I had this brilliant idea to use cdcox's software to put together a guide for who we should be rooting for to best help the Chiefs chances of making the playoffs. I always like stuff like that because it helps to tease out some of the nuances that you probably wouldn't have guessed:

http://i.imgur.com/Kbm97oO.png

The main one that's interesting to me in that is the Chargers game. Who would have thought that it's actually in our best interests for the Chargers to win today? That's mainly because the Chargers have a BRUTAL schedule to end the season, so it's unlikely they're going to be a threat for the WC spot anyway, so it's better for them to win now and take the Ravens down a notch.

(I should probably add that games not listed have essentially zero impact on our playoff chances.)

I was very proud of the great insight I gleaned from this analysis. That is...until I ran it with the Chiefs/Broncos game in there:

http://i.imgur.com/hRaM1kd.png

So basically, we can root for other teams all we want, but nothing matters NEAR as much as just taking care of our own business.

DaFace 11-30-2014 11:55 AM

Let me know if there's interest in me doing this each week (assuming the Chiefs remain in the hunt). I'm happy to do it, and the impact of other games will increase as we near the finish line, but the story will pretty much always be "Chiefs win = really good, Chiefs lose = really bad" compared to every other game.

Rausch 11-30-2014 11:57 AM

I hope for Dorsey no longer drafting b/u players and guys to replace guys he wants to cut.

Instead we'll have 2013 dorsey who espoused the importance of BAA...

Easy 6 11-30-2014 11:59 AM

Pretty cool idea, and you're right that I wouldnt have guessed that San Diego winning was in our best interests.

On a side note, would anyone like to offer up some advice? I'm torn on who to pick for the Giants @ Jags game... on one hand, I feel like NY is clearly the better team, on the other, it seems like Jax is due to put one together at home against a reeling team.

Otter 11-30-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11153498)
Let me know if there's interest in me doing this each week (assuming the Chiefs remain in the hunt). I'm happy to do it, and the impact of other games will increase as we near the finish line, but the story will pretty much always be "Chiefs win = really good, Chiefs lose = really bad" compared to every other game.

If our boys win tonight I love to see it every week but if they lose I think we're back in "maybe next year". Pretty much do or die tonight.

TimBone 11-30-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 11153514)
If our boys win tonight I love to see it every week but if they lose I think we're back in "maybe next year". Pretty much do or die tonight.

Yep. Tonight is essentially a playoff game for the Chiefs.

chefsos 11-30-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11153492)

So basically, we can root for other teams all we want, but nothing matters NEAR as much as just taking care of our own business.

I think that, in any other week, this will be much more useful. But, as huge as our game has shaped up (win ties division, loss essentially ends all hope) it overshadows scoreboard watching.

It's pretty awesome though. If you're keeping score, put me down as "keep doing this, and why the hell didn't you start sooner"

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-30-2014 12:08 PM

Now look back at how important that Titan loss was.

I told you so !

cdcox 11-30-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11153516)
Yep. Tonight is essentially a playoff game for the Chiefs.


Eh, even if we lose, 44% chance at this stage of the season puts us right in the thick of the WC race. It's nothing to sneeze at.

Nice job, DaFace.

thabear04 11-30-2014 12:12 PM

Rams just scored.

Dinny Bossa Nova 11-30-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11153504)
I hope for Dorsey no longer drafting b/u players and guys to replace guys he wants to cut.

Instead we'll have 2013 dorsey who espoused the importance of BAA...

FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD, RAUSCH!!!

Seriously.

I'm gonna come up there and buy you lunch or something. It's time for an intervention kind of thing here.

You're my boy, but for cryin' out loud already.

Dinny

Sandy Vagina 11-30-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11153508)
Pretty cool idea, and you're right that I wouldnt have guessed that San Diego winning was in our best interests.

On a side note, would anyone like to offer up some advice? I'm torn on who to pick for the Giants @ Jags game... on one hand, I feel like NY is clearly the better team, on the other, it seems like Jax is due to put one together at home against a reeling team.

Hate to see you go wrong here, but if it were my money? I'm picking the NYG to win this one.. by 10+ points.

DaFace 11-30-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 11153525)
I think that, in any other week, this will be much more useful. But, as huge as our game has shaped up (win ties division, loss essentially ends all hope) it overshadows scoreboard watching.

It's pretty awesome though. If you're keeping score, put me down as "keep doing this, and why the hell didn't you start sooner"

Actually, there's a decent reason for not starting sooner. The earlier you are in the season, the less of an impact any one game is going to have on your chances. There's a bit of "error" in the model in that running a simulation multiple times may result in swings of a point or two, so if the impact from a game is very small, it's essentially meaningless. So basically, you have to get late enough in the season for other games to cause enough of a difference to be meaningful.

Sandy Vagina 11-30-2014 12:16 PM

Just can't bring myself to pull for SD... can't... I won't. Looks like Ravens about to go up by two scores... :p

Dinny Bossa Nova 11-30-2014 12:17 PM

On topic.

This is an incredibly groovy thing, DaFace. I vote keep it going.

Dinny


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