Right there with you.

Hey, life sucks, imagination is better.

I'd argue that's the whole basis of Christmas.

So...

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Hope your office party was fun!

Dungy had exactly the same kind of team in Tampa Bay that Herman ****ing Edwards had in New York.

The only real difference between Dungy and Herman ****ing Edwards is Peyton Manning.

If Dungy were a real ****ing coach, he'd have won more than one SB with Manning.

They were both great coaches at what they did promoted above their level of...**** it....you know the rest.

Tony Dungy retired at the peak of Peyton's career. He's not coaching in the NFL, if ever again.

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Bullshit. Tony dungy had an elite defense behind an unbelievably shitty qb. Herms team relied heavily on Pennington. Behind even an average qb, dungys team probably would have won a few playoff games, even if I believe his Marty ball philosophy would have kept Tampa from the super bowl.

In Indy... Why did the colts fail in the playoffs? Was it poor game planning? Poor game management? Or was it Peyton playing uncharacteristically bad football, especially against the patriots?

Dungy isn't herm. He is cowher and Marty, smart coaches who can coach up a terrific football team that can't find a way to win big games.

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In Tampa, Dungy had Sapp, Derrick Brooks, John Lynch, Barber, Hardy Nickerson and some other really good defenders. His offense was crap hence why he didn't win 2 or 3 superbowls with that team.

Why so sad?

Tony Dungy built his reputation on the talent that others provided for him.

He had an elite defense in Tampa because he had elite talent.

He did nothing with his soft ass coaching style.

And he doesn't get any credit for coaching any of that up? Unlike herm, dungy has an unbelievably impressive coaching resume. He's terrific at coaching up players. In Indy, he wasn't given nearly as much to work with and, to his discredit, ran a traditional tampa 2 a few years past it's expiration date.

Whats intriguing is, I think dungy is smart enough to work with what he's got. He has experience running a 3-4. It wouldn't surprise me if he went back to his roots. This place gets way too critical of people they don't like. Dungy will coach up a terrific team, but they will probably find ways to lose in playoff games. Marty, for example, really adjusted his offense in San Diego but still kept losing big games. Again, dungy is not herm 2.0, he is Marty 2.0.

Exactly.

He's underachieved everywhere he's been...

I'm going to disagree with that to an extent. Sapp, Brooks, Lynch and a couple of the other guys credit him with how good they became.

I addressed that in this last post.

Take some Pepto- Bismol for that gut of yours. It'll relieve upset stomach caused by the gut wrenching performance, nausea from watching opposing QB's hit their WR's in stride, heartburn due to the flaming Aids tree you wish Pioli to fall from, diarrhea caused from the $#!+ product we've been force fed, and indigestion caused by the stress of not knowing if or when the Pioli regime is over in KC.