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alnorth 04-06-2013 09:19 AM

* Kansas City Royals @ Philadelphia Phillies Game Thread (4/6) *
 
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<tr><td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
<tr> <td> KC (2-3) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
<tr> <td> PHI (2-3) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 2 </td></tr>
</table>

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/ima...s/80x80/kc.png

Luis Mendoza 6IP 1R 1ER 3BB 7K
Hold, (2) Aaron Crow 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Hold, (2) Kelvin Herrera 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Blown Save, (1); Loss, (0-1) Greg Holland ⅔IP 3R 3ER 3BB 2K

VS.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/ima.../80x80/phi.png

John Lannan 7IP 3R 3ER 0BB 5K
Mike Adams 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Win, (1-0) Antonio Bastardo 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 0K

Home Runs

none

AL Central

Final: SEA 3, CWS 4
Final: NYY 4, DET 8
Final: MIN 6, BAL 5
Final: CLE 0, TB 6

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Alcides Escobar, SS
3. Billy Butler, 1B
3. Jarrod Dyson, pr
3. Kelvin Herrera, P
3. Greg Holland, P
4. Salvador Perez, C
5. Lorenzo Cain, CF
6. Jeff Francoeur, RF
7. Miguel Tejada, 3B
7. Aaron Crow, P
7. Eric Hosmer, 1B
8. Elliot Johnson, 2B/3B
9. Luis Mendoza, P
9. Chris Getz, ph/2B

PHI

1. Ben Revere, CF
2. Jimmy Rollins, SS
3. Chase Utley, 2B
4. Ryan Howard, 1B
4. Ezequiel Carrera, pr
5. Michael Young, 3B
6. Domonic Brown, LF
7. John Mayberry, RF
8. Humberto Quintero, C
8. Kevin Frandsen, ph
9. John Lannan, P
9. Mike Adams, P
9. Laynce Nix, ph
9. Antonio Bastardo, P

alnorth 04-06-2013 09:20 AM

I don't normally do asterisks, but they seem to be working, so I threw a couple in there.

BlackHelicopters 04-06-2013 09:20 AM

14 runs today?

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-06-2013 09:23 AM

This will be the last time we see .500 this year, book it.

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 09:25 AM

So the whole superstitious GT starting thing is out the window, apparently.:)

stonedstooge 04-06-2013 09:26 AM

Hosmer's hot so Leadhead Ned's going to cool him down

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 9561178)
Hosmer's hot so Leadhead Ned's going to cool him down

Totally missed that.

WTF.

Hosmer in RF, please.

BigMeatballDave 04-06-2013 09:32 AM

Sitting Hos after a 4-hit game? :spock:

CaliforniaChief 04-06-2013 09:38 AM

We've been superstitious about GT starting privs. since I can remember, and none of our teams have won jack squat. So I like it. Maybe the Chiefs side of us can learn from it.

I guess it's better to have Hos sit out feeling good about himself than the other way around. Lefty starting, so I get it.

Lannan's a soft-tosser. Let's go boys.

mr. tegu 04-06-2013 09:41 AM

Sitting Hos? Really? Hopefully that's wrong since it was said yesterday that Hos was going to in RF so Billy could play first.

SCTrojan 04-06-2013 09:44 AM

Heading to Philly for the weekend games. If things go badly, you can blame me. Go Royals!

alnorth 04-06-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9561199)
Sitting Hos? Really? Hopefully that's wrong since it was said yesterday that Hos was going to in RF so Billy could play first.

Hosmer won't play RF today. Maybe later in the year, who knows. He looked bad in RF last year, and they apparently still don't think he's got the position figured out yet.

If you can only play Butler or Hosmer, then it makes sense to play Hos yesterday and Butler against the two leftys.

Old Dog 04-06-2013 09:46 AM

Wooo Hoooo tied for first place in the division

ChiTown 04-06-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9561199)
Sitting Hos? Really? Hopefully that's wrong since it was said yesterday that Hos was going to in RF so Billy could play first.

I believe the next two Philly starters are lefties. Hos will be seeing the pine until they get into the Philly bullpen for righties

CaliforniaChief 04-06-2013 09:53 AM

I would imagine Hamels won't be easy to get to...so hopefully we can lock up the series and a .500 record on this opening road trip. You'd have to call that a successful start, honestly.

And who knows? Maybe Shields will beat Hamels tomorrow. It's entirely possible.

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9561212)
I believe the next two Philly starters are lefties. Hos will be seeing the pine until they get into the Philly bullpen for righties

Good point. I didn't think about that.

Old Dog 04-06-2013 09:55 AM

I was hoping we would be .500 when they got back to The K. A win today = successful road trip to open the season.

TLO 04-06-2013 10:04 AM

In for the win

TLO 04-06-2013 10:07 AM

6:05 central time correct?

RedDread 04-06-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 9561235)
6:05 central time correct?

Yep, same time as the WSU final four game.

lewdog 04-06-2013 10:12 AM

Starting right in the middle of the final 4 games tonight.....damn.

SPchief 04-06-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9561171)
I don't normally do asterisks, but they seem to be working, so I threw a couple in there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9561176)
So the whole superstitious GT starting thing is out the window, apparently.:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9561193)
We've been superstitious about GT starting privs. since I can remember, and none of our teams have won jack squat. So I like it. Maybe the Chiefs side of us can learn from it.

I guess it's better to have Hos sit out feeling good about himself than the other way around. Lefty starting, so I get it.

Lannan's a soft-tosser. Let's go boys.

AL has mojo and can forever do whatever he wants if he starts the gamethread.











pending we win today

Nightfyre 04-06-2013 10:14 AM

Not to totally divert to a tangent, but National League ball is lame.

EagleRob 04-06-2013 10:17 AM

Airing on MLB Network for those not in the broadcast area.

SPchief 04-06-2013 10:19 AM

Prediction: Mendoza goes 6, strikes out 9 and we win 4-2

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 9561249)
Prediction: Mendoza goes 6, strikes out 9 and we win 4-2

Bold. I hope you're right, but I would like to see us knock around their 5th starter a bit. Lannan isn't anything special.

Simply Red 04-06-2013 10:40 AM

I hope George Brett and alnorth stick a 34 ounce Louisville Slugger up Chase Utley's ass, later on todayq.

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9561283)
I hope George Brett and alnorth stick a 34 ounce Louisville Slugger up Chase Utley's ass, later on todayq.


I find this post 'a little' idiotic.

alnorth 04-06-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9561246)
Not to totally divert to a tangent, but National League ball is lame.

yes. Yes it is.

A few years ago, I was on that "get rid of the DH" bandwagon, bemoaning the lack of "strategy" etc.

I've changed my mind, I am now a fan of American League baseball, rather than just baseball. If the Royals switched leagues, my interest would decrease.

At the college level and below, the pitcher should hit, because even though he's not as good, he can still put in a credible effort at the plate. At the MLB level, the pitcher is about as effective as some handcuffed guy in a gimp suit. Sure, we have a couple "hitting pitchers" in the NL, but mostly you are hoping for a successful bunt, or if he has to swing, then a miracle.

It is not fun to watch an inning get shut down because with 2 outs they walk the bases loaded in the 2nd inning to get to the pitcher and shut down the threat with a K. I'm also not excited about a double-switch. The "strategy" there is to move that gimp-spot elsewhere in your batting order so you have 8 good hitters in front of him. The bench should be used for defense to hold the lead, speed if a slow tying runner is on, pinch-hitting an all-glove starter late when behind, or to give a guy a day off. You want to play every day, beat the guy in front of you.

If I were emperor of baseball, I'd put the DH in the NL, and tell the NL fans to stuff it when they complain. After 10+ years they'll come around.

teedubya 04-06-2013 11:25 AM

***** the Phillies!! Let's go for 3 wins in a row.

Sure-Oz 04-06-2013 11:30 AM

DH should take over the NL, hopefully someday.

EagleRob 04-06-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9561326)
yes. Yes it is.

A few years ago, I was on that "get rid of the DH" bandwagon, bemoaning the lack of "strategy" etc.

I've changed my mind, I am now a fan of American League baseball, rather than just baseball. If the Royals switched leagues, my interest would decrease.

At the college level and below, the pitcher should hit, because even though he's not as good, he can still put in a credible effort at the plate. At the MLB level, the pitcher is about as effective as some handcuffed guy in a gimp suit. Sure, we have a couple "hitting pitchers" in the NL, but mostly you are hoping for a successful bunt, or if he has to swing, then a miracle.

It is not fun to watch an inning get shut down because with 2 outs they walk the bases loaded in the 2nd inning to get to the pitcher and shut down the threat with a K. I'm also not excited about a double-switch. The "strategy" there is to move that gimp-spot elsewhere in your batting order so you have 8 good hitters in front of him. The bench should be used for defense to hold the lead, speed if a slow tying runner is on, pinch-hitting an all-glove starter late when behind, or to give a guy a day off. You want to play every day, beat the guy in front of you.

If I were emperor of baseball, I'd put the DH in the NL, and tell the NL fans to stuff it when they complain. After 10+ years they'll come around.

Probably the most compelling argument anyone has ever made to me to go against my upbringing. Nicely done.

RedDread 04-06-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9561338)
DH should take over the NL, hopefully someday.

It will happen. DH in both leagues means more big contracts. The player's union should be in favor of it.

EagleRob 04-06-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9561378)
It will happen. DH in both leagues means more big contracts. The player's union should be in favor of it.

Probably can't be done without alienating the purest fan base though.

tk13 04-06-2013 12:37 PM

Ugly scene in Toronto. John Lackey was making his first start of the year for the Red Sox after missing last year due to Tommy John. He just chunked a wild pitch into the dirt and immediately keeled over in pain. Had to come out of the game. Did not look good.

He was pitching okay too... 4 IP, 2 runs allowed, 8 K.

lewdog 04-06-2013 12:38 PM

I want to go on record. I think Mendoza has decent enough stuff to be an effective #5 in this rotation. Nothing spectacular but decent enough to keep us in games and eat up some innings. More than we can say for Hochevar. I hope my feeling is right.

Archie F. Swin 04-06-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9561246)
Not to totally divert to a tangent, but National League ball is lame.

Have to admit Ned played a solid NL game yesterday. I was fascinated by the substitutions.

duncan_idaho 04-06-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 9561326)
yes. Yes it is.

A few years ago, I was on that "get rid of the DH" bandwagon, bemoaning the lack of "strategy" etc.

I've changed my mind, I am now a fan of American League baseball, rather than just baseball. If the Royals switched leagues, my interest would decrease.

At the college level and below, the pitcher should hit, because even though he's not as good, he can still put in a credible effort at the plate. At the MLB level, the pitcher is about as effective as some handcuffed guy in a gimp suit. Sure, we have a couple "hitting pitchers" in the NL, but mostly you are hoping for a successful bunt, or if he has to swing, then a miracle.

It is not fun to watch an inning get shut down because with 2 outs they walk the bases loaded in the 2nd inning to get to the pitcher and shut down the threat with a K. I'm also not excited about a double-switch. The "strategy" there is to move that gimp-spot elsewhere in your batting order so you have 8 good hitters in front of him. The bench should be used for defense to hold the lead, speed if a slow tying runner is on, pinch-hitting an all-glove starter late when behind, or to give a guy a day off. You want to play every day, beat the guy in front of you.

If I were emperor of baseball, I'd put the DH in the NL, and tell the NL fans to stuff it when they complain. After 10+ years they'll come around.

Brilliantly stated! The DH is not going anywhere. Eventually, NL fans will have to bite the bullet on this.

Stubbornly insisting that "Real" baseball is baseball sans DH is the same as stubbornly insisting that "Real" basketball is basketball sans the 3-point line, the shot clock, and the legal ability to dunk the ball, or football sans the forward pass.

Ceej 04-06-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9561448)
I want to go on record. I think Mendoza has decent enough stuff to be an effective #5 in this rotation. Nothing spectacular but decent enough to keep us in games and eat up some innings. More than we can say for Hochevar. I hope my feeling is right.

Way to go out on a limb there.

n00b..

CaliforniaChief 04-06-2013 01:13 PM

Hoch proved that he can handle pitching in a tough environment yesterday. /GMDM

Hey, at least we know that 9 run leads are safe with Hoch.

In all reality, this bullpen is fricking nails. We'll have the occasional flame-out, but I haven't felt as good about our pitching situation since 1985.

Ceej 04-06-2013 01:16 PM

I smell three in a row.

RedDread 04-06-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9561468)
Brilliantly stated! The DH is not going anywhere. Eventually, NL fans will have to bite the bullet on this.

Stubbornly insisting that "Real" baseball is baseball sans DH is the same as stubbornly insisting that "Real" basketball is basketball sans the 3-point line, the shot clock, and the legal ability to dunk the ball, or football sans the forward pass.

Or just to use baseball, interleague and instant replay have made their way in. Baseball is the slowest of the four major sports to adopt rule changes but this will happen.

However the All-Star Game WS home field advantage needs to go away. That is garbage. MLB All-Star game is already the best of all sports, they should just leave it be.

CoMoChief 04-06-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9561184)
Sitting Hos after a 4-hit game? :spock:

It's Yost baby!!!

lewdog 04-06-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9561508)
Way to go out on a limb there.

n00b..

I wish it wasn't so hard around here to fit in.

:sulk:

penbrook 04-06-2013 01:42 PM

Francouer is 13-25 with 1 hr and 6 rbis against Lannan.

alnorth 04-06-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 9561545)
Or just to use baseball, interleague and instant replay have made their way in. Baseball is the slowest of the four major sports to adopt rule changes but this will happen.

However the All-Star Game WS home field advantage needs to go away. That is garbage. MLB All-Star game is already the best of all sports, they should just leave it be.

I'm in the minority on this. I'm completely fine with using the AS Game to determine home field advantage. Having it be random and just rotate each year IS NOT better.

Home field advantage is something that should be given to the better team. I don't think using win-loss records or seed is any better because they have wildly different schedules. A contest between the leagues where each league puts up their best players is not a bad way to tell whether that league's champion should get home field advantage.

It does nothing to ruin the all-star game, and probably makes it better since it means something. I can't really think of a better way to determine home field advantage.

Old Dog 04-06-2013 01:51 PM

+1 to what alnorth said.

mr. tegu 04-06-2013 02:04 PM

While perusing a Phillies board I notice a common theme of no confidence in Lanaan. Hopefully we can crush him early and pad another big lead against that soft tossing bullpen.

Demonpenz 04-06-2013 02:30 PM

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Dale Murphy responded to my tweet.

Ceej 04-06-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9561565)
I wish it wasn't so hard around here to fit in.

:sulk:

You just have to talk about poop, and banging supermodels bro.

Bowser 04-06-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9561710)
You just have to talk about poop, and banging supermodels bro.

Speaking of, brb. Not saying it's going to happen in that order, either.

Ceej 04-06-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561717)
Speaking of, brb. Not saying it's going to happen in that order, either.

Now if you did both simultaneously I would put you on the highest pedestal in Chiefsplanet. That'd be pretty cool.

Bowser 04-06-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9561722)
Now if you did both simultaneously I would put you on the highest pedestal in Chiefsplanet. That'd be pretty cool.

So pooping on a super model = God Mode on ChiefsPlanet.

Somebody get TinyEvel in here with Kirstie Tynes' number. I have a mission.

Ceej 04-06-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561724)
So pooping on a super model = God Mode on ChiefsPlanet.

Somebody get TinyEvel in here with Kirstie Tynes' number. I have a mission.

Or shatting while banging a supermodel.

Either or man, either or.

Demonpenz 04-06-2013 03:09 PM

I don't like the DH. They need to make the games move along faster.

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9561758)
I don't like the DH. They need to make the games move along faster.

Start watching after the second inning.

Problem solved.

Demonpenz 04-06-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9561762)
Start watching after the second inning.

Problem solved.

cute

Cephalic Trauma 04-06-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9561764)
cute

DH improves the quality of the game. I don't know why anyone would want a quicker game if they enjoy watching it, but to each their own.

Luckily, the game is partitioned into innings, with a specific start time. Plan accordingly.

shorman22 04-06-2013 03:29 PM

Lineup is out
Gordan 7
Escobar 6
Butler 3
Perez 2
Cain 8
Francoeur 9
Tejada 5
Johnson 4
Mendoza 1

Bowser 04-06-2013 03:51 PM

LMAO

Yeah, I get that there are a couple of tough left handers going in a National League game, but good lord does Yost like to jerk the lineup around.

Shogun 04-06-2013 03:53 PM

That lineup makes me cringe. but i get it

gblowfish 04-06-2013 04:00 PM

Ned wants to make sure everybody gets a participation ribbon from the Philly trip....

Bowser 04-06-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9561840)
That lineup makes me cringe. but i get it

He can't protect Moose and Hos forever against left handers. Let them play, especially considering how they were both knocking the ball around yesterday.

mr. tegu 04-06-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561851)
He can't protect Moose and Hos forever against left handers. Let them play, especially considering how they were both knocking the ball around yesterday.

Qft.

Archie F. Swin 04-06-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561835)
LMAO

Yeah, I get that there are a couple of tough left handers going in a National League game, but good lord does Yost like to jerk the lineup around.

Joe Maden had 78 different lineups in 2012

TLO 04-06-2013 04:40 PM

Something tells me Moose or Hos will come through with a big pinch hit tonight. Hope I'm right. Royals win 6-4

Bowser 04-06-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9561932)
Joe Maden had 78 different lineups in 2012

Well, if Yost keeps this up, he'll shatter that number this year.

Plus -
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9561851)
He can't protect Moose and Hos forever against left handers. Let them play, especially considering how they were both knocking the ball around yesterday.


Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 04:44 PM

Hope ya guys kick their ass again!

mr. tegu 04-06-2013 04:45 PM

Lannan's stats were basically the same last year vs lefties and righties. Lefties had a slightly better average and OBP while righties had a better K/BB ratio and a little better slugging percentage.

alnorth 04-06-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9561957)
Lannan's stats were basically the same last year vs lefties and righties. Lefties had a slightly better average and OBP while righties had a better K/BB ratio and a little better slugging percentage.

You're right. Even if you go beyond last year, for his career over thousands of AB, he hasn't really had a platoon split.

stonedstooge 04-06-2013 05:02 PM

Let's crack these dumb bells

mr. tegu 04-06-2013 05:04 PM

I'm thinking we win 6-2.

Mr. Laz 04-06-2013 05:06 PM

Moose and Hos are supposed to be studs, not platoon guys.

If they can't handle it then we should of traded one of them for pitching instead.


kick Yost in the taint with this stupid ass lineup right after we just had a breakout offensive game.

lewdog 04-06-2013 05:08 PM

I am just excited to see if Tejada still has it.

:facepalm:

alnorth 04-06-2013 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9562012)
Moose and Hos are supposed to be studs, not platoon guys.

If they can't handle it then we should of traded one of them for pitching instead.


kick Yost in the taint with this stupid ass lineup right after we just had a breakout offensive game.

Its not a platoon. Moose is getting a day off. Players get those sometimes. With Hosmer, its either him or Butler, and Butler is better.

stonedstooge 04-06-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9562012)
Moose and Hos are supposed to be studs, not platoon guys.

If they can't handle it then we should of traded one of them for pitching instead.


kick Yost in the taint with this stupid ass lineup right after we just had a breakout offensive game.

Getz was on fire too yesterday. Ned sits hot hitters

alnorth 04-06-2013 05:09 PM

1st inning
 
Top 1st

Gordon strikes out (swinging)
Escobar grounds out to third
Butler grounds out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Revere grounds out to shortstop
Rollins strikes out (swinging)
Utley flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

mr. tegu 04-06-2013 05:10 PM

This Lannan looks to be a pretty soft thrower.

Mother****erJones 04-06-2013 05:10 PM

Do you guys like the interleague play this early?

RedDread 04-06-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9562034)
Do you guys like the interleague play this early?

Yeah, there's going to be a minimum of 1 interleague series now that the leagues both have 15 teams.


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