Do the events of this weekend save Pioli's and Crennel's jobs?
 

Obviously lots of emotion today....Emotion probably won the game IMO.

Does that change anything in Clarks mind? The classy way that Pioli and Crennel have handled the past few days. I fear its going to cloud his judgement when the tough decisions need to be made in a few weeks.

Thoughts?

Absolutely not. Their fates were sealed two weeks ago.

I would hope not, but the reality is that we don't even know that their jobs were ever in danger to begin with.

It's the worst team in franchise history. Their jobs are definitely in danger.

No. This worthless win won't save them.

it ****ing better not. I have a texans jersey just waiting for me if pioli is the chiefs GM next season.

I'd have to disagree. I would say that it does at least for a week or two. If not tell the end of the season.

Crennel i have no doubts will be gone. Pioli......im not 100% sure.

I fear they will be back.

Better not. The event yesterday and their job performance are separate things. Job performance says they have no right to return. Just hope CHunt agrees.

I know you are confident and I hope you are right but I am going to get paranoid if they build on this. I am already paranoid that we won't take a QB.

Then let me rephrase: we don't even know that they were ever going to be fired to begin with. We're making an assumption based on what we all want. Which may or may not be what Clark intends to do.

No

If Clark is going to retain these two because of the tragedy and barely beating a sh*tty Panthers team, then this franchise is doomed to suck forever.

The stadium as a whole was still quite empty and it was more full due to the tragedy.

DO NOT make a decision based on emotions!

They did that last season with the RAC hiring.

CHunt has his father's sense of loyalty, I fear.

I don't think today changes anything. It's if they get hot and rip off 2 or 3 more wins down the stretch here you should be worried about. This team could just as easily emotionally deflate the rest of the way.

I'm not assuming anything based on what I want. It's an analysis of the facts.

I just think we will have to wait till the end of the season for him to be let go. I hope he gets fired I think he will be.

OMG, drama queens abound. No, it's not changing a thing regarding Crennel and Pioli. Sheesh.

No. Doesn't have anything to do w/ the on field product.

They're basically just handling it like decent human beings.

If anything its another reason to clean house.

This win was not good at all. Now we have the same record as Jax who will probably draft a qb. We must lose to Browns and Raiders and hope they beat Tenn. Not to mention that if Caro gets the one pick they will trade out of it and screw us out of whatever QB we want.

I want Pioli gone. I really do, more than anything. His arrogance and the Matt Cassel fiasco made him public enemy #1 in my eyes.

However, Crennel MUST be gone. If Pioli has to stay another year but we get a QB...whatever. I can't stand another year of dipshit on the sidelines...that dude has no business being an NFL head coach.

Scratch that.

They better both be gone.

Retained, retired or fired, none of that hinges on the past 32 hours.

If it does, I am ****ing done with this team.

I hope not. I will burn all my KC gear and never support this team again if they are both here and we're stuck with Cassel and Dr Quinn medicine woman another year.

To me, they are both equals. Pioli has to be gone and I want him having no part in picking the next coach.

Romeo's got no business as you said. He's learned nothing from his first stint.

The events of yesterday have nothing to do with the teams performance this season, unless there is some proof that JB was so distraught over his/ the teams season that it is what pushed him over the edge. I doubt that had anything to do with his actions but if it did then there is more reason to clean house.

I don't think it saves their jobs. I don't think they were gone to begin with.

I could see Romeo retiring after that rather than maybe working somewhere.

Before this weekend I figured he would be somewhere doing something in the NFL next year
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if they want to make Pioli a lame duck GM for another year (like Peterson his final stretch) because of some contract bullshit and bring in someone like Marty as a "consultant" to hire a HC and oversee the draft...whatever. It's not something I'd prefer but if we're so cheap we can't get out of Pioli's contract (whatever it may be) but we totally cut off his balls then I guess that would be kind of funny.

Crennel has to go and if he's back I'll continue to not give a single shit about the team because there is no way he can be a successful head coach.

I WORRIED ABOUT THIS ALL DAY-will sympathy overrule bad decisions. I truly hope not!

But it's not even "what we all want." It's what you and a number of other people on this board want.

shut the **** up
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You're satisfied with Pioli's performance?

So you enjoy finishing last in the division 3 out of 4 years?

Congratulations.

not unless Hunt was already looking for an excuse to begin with



now if the Chiefs go on a winning streak to end the season ....

After their failure to lose today, they should be fired on the spot.

If YOU don't want that as well, then nobody here can help you.

Nobody here, and nobody that actually watches and understand the NFL.

Castrate yourself with a rusty ice cream scoop.

I think the play of Poe, Tyson Jackson, Stephenson & Houston are going to save their jobs if Quinn keeps winning.

What does that show?

As an owner, it would show me that when games really matter next to nothing, the team can perform against garbage teams.

If CHunt had any balls, he would clean house right now. Show that he is a ruthless SOB that demands results NOW.

No, that wouldn't be professional at all, just because they witnessed something horrible still doesn't change the fact that they can not do their job's..

we have the stupidest owner in the history of ownership if his mind wasn't already made up before yesterday.

This.

that would just be stupid


no point in firing anyone unless/until you have a replacement ready.

no point in firing coaches right now at all.


If Hunt plans on firing Pioli then there isn't anything to stop him from looking for a replacement RIGHT NOW so firing doesn't matter.

The possibility of it happening has definitely crossed my mind. Yeah, I think it can happen.

I had a feeling Pioli would be retained. After this weekend I'd be shocked to see him gone. Unless he resigns.

Sex marathons with Giselle has definitely crossed my mind, too.

But it's gone now?

You have way too much faith in Hunt to make the right business decision.

Hopefully not for Polly, another year of Romeo would not be the worst thing as long as Polly is gone.

Romeo is going to retire, Pioli is going to stay. Already heard he got a 2yr extension

He made the right one with Carl in 2008, and Pioli in 2009.

The team has talent that it isn't playing up to

I could see Pioli staying and all the coaching being fired.

I imagine if that happens then Hunt would of also told Pioli that he needs to address the QB position asap and he better get the HC position correct this time.

Maybe ...

The Hunt family is conservative and resists change.

This..

I have a bad feeling on this one...

also heard that the 2yr extension rumor was bullshit


we just don't know

This is what I think about to keep me sane.

Yep.

Nope, I think sympathy gives him another year. I think any chance we had went away yesterday. Clark is too big of a pussy to fire him now

Crennel might retire, but Pioli will be here. I hope I can shit on myself for thinking that in a month. It should not effect the decision, but I think it will.

Sweet God I hope not.

Believe me. I want you to be right. He's done a horrible job, been an arrogant prick, and yesterday changes nothing for me.

He hand picked Pioli. Seems to like him on a personal level, and now sees him as a sympathetic figure.

That's my feeling, but I hope I'm dead wrong.

I guarantee you he does not like Pioli on a personal level.

The Hunt family does not like Pioli.

Source?

100% this

And now SOC might have to change its approach...

We're ****ed...

Of course it does, and that's making the assumption their jobs were really in danger in the first place.

Oh, just wait until they win their 4th game, draft 3rd and take Manti Te'o.

That will probably end it for me as a fan.

I'm not trying to be insensitive. Just pointing out reality.

This put us in a situation that Romeo is built well for. He is a player's coach and his players respect the hell out of him. I can't stand player's coaches because like earlier this year, you find that players will walk all over you. But in situations like these, players respond really well to a coach they love.

So yes... I have a huge fear that Romeo will improve this team just enough to keep everyone's job safe. That it will be harder for fans to be critics of the team because of the unique emotional circumstances. And that what Pioli/RAC had the misfortune of experiencing might make it seem more insensitive to get rid of them.

I've been a Chiefs' fan too long to not look at these things realistically. I have a really bad feeling that this unique situation is the kind of thing that saves jobs that don't need to be saved.

No. A man killed a woman and himself yesterday and while sad, it does not change the fact that this team is broken top to bottom. Clark still has to right the ship and get rid of those responsible for trying to sink it

This.

And **** today's "winning effort".

Useless.

We all get that.

It's never been about that.

It's about whether people in a position to do anything get it. I'm not convinced of this.

Especially if Quinn finishes strong

Our entire society gravitates towards making decisions based on feelings instead of logic.

Don't think for one minute that Pioli won't get TONS of sympathy for this.

I heard more than one radio caller yesterday suggest that firing him would be "inhumane".

ROFL:clap: Ahhhh...much needed comedy in the face of tragedy.

I think they do and will do the right thing when THEY think it's the right time. I believe this staff is gone at the end of the year. The bigger fear for me is, will top notch candidates want to come here. My fear is no and we'll be in for another 4 years of suck.

nonsense!
 

they should be fired for winning today and moving steps closer to losing the overall number 1 pick...

I heard a terrible joke by a caller on a NY sports radio station..
"its pathetic that it took a player to kill himself to get a win"

:spock::mad:

WTF?! How can people...WAIT A MINUTE:

It's a ****ing damage-control campaign! That sorry sack of shit! We must destroy him now.