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Quesadilla Joe 05-01-2009 02:47 PM

AFC West UDFA Grades
 
http://draftguys.com/index.php/artic..._grades_-_afc/
:)
Denver Broncos

LB Braxton Kelley, Kentucky
LB Jeff Schweiger, San Jose State
OT Marcus Gordon, Kentucky State
CB D.J. Johnson, Jackson State
RB Kestahn Moore, Florida
WR Travis Shelton, Temple
DE Rulon Davis, Cal-Berkeley
WR Nate Swift, Nebraska
DT Chris Baker, Hampton
WR David Grimes, Notre Dame
OT Stanley Bryant, E. Carolina
LB Lee Robinson, Alcorn State
DT Everette Pedescleaux, N. Iowa
TE Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas
CB Dominique Johnson, Jackson State
WR Lucas Taylor, Tennessee
CB Tony Carter, Florida State

Here’s your top UDFA class. They didn’t address the front seven as much as most people wanted them to in the draft, but Rulon Davis is a born 3-4 DE and an Iraq tested marine, Pedescleaux has tons of upside, Robinson could end up being a beast of an ILB if he’s smart enough to handle the position, and Chris Baker is one of the few guys in the draft class who has the frame to play 3-4 NT. I also think Tony Carter will stick as a nickel/dime corner, and Nate Swift is an underrated, hard-nosed wideout.

Grade: A+


Kansas City Chiefs

CB Jackie Bates, Hampton
DB Ricky Price, Oklahoma State
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
DE Bobby Greenwood, Alabama
DB Londen Fryar, W. Michigan
DE Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
LB Jovan Belcher, Maine
LB Bobby Abare, Yale

The Chiefs actually got some decent OLB prospects in Belcher and Walters, and a speedy corner in Bates, but I would expect a rebuilding team to do better, especially when they only spent three picks on defense even though they’re changing schemes.

Grade: D


Oakland Raiders

WR Chris Johnson, Tennessee State
LB Jerome Boyd, Oregon
WR Keith Miller, Southern Utah
DE Desmond Bryant, Harvard
LB David Nixon, Brigham Young
WR Shawn Bayes, Kent State
LB Frantz Joseph, Florida Atlantic

Not much to look at except Joseph, who has tons of heart and natural violence in his game - he’ll make the team and challenge to start eventually.

Grade: C+ (The plus is for Joseph)


San Diego Chargers

OL Ben Muth, Stanford
WR Greg Carr, Florida State
LB Anthony Felder, Cal-Berkeley
FB Bill Rentmeester, Wisconsin
WR Jeremy Childs, Boise State
DB C.J. Spillman, Marshall
TE Jerimiah Wurzbacher, North Dakota State
TE Kory Sperry, Colorado State
OT Sam Allen, Grand Valley
LB James Holt, Kansas
DT Rashaad Jackson, Clemson
RB Curtis Brinkley, Syracuse
LB Darry Beckwith, L.S.U.
OL Ryan McDonald, Illinois
WR Charly Martin, West Texas A&M
OT Dan Gay, Baylor
CB Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford
WR Rod Smith, Auburn

A variety of guys that could turn to gold (well ok, aluminum or a useful, but less valuable metal), including a solid, but unspectacular safety (Spillman), an athletic but one-dimensional receiving TE (Sperry), a top ILB that surprisingly fell out of the draft (Beckwith), and a gritty, experienced 3-4 ILB (Felder)

Grade: A

htismaqe 05-01-2009 02:50 PM

You need a great UDFA class.

Your draft sucked so bad that only Al Davis could make it look good by comparison.

MoreLemonPledge 05-01-2009 02:52 PM

They have UDFA grades? I really want to know if my team did the best at picking up players that will probably never see the field. THE CHIEFS MUST HAVE THE BEST PRACTICE SQUAD!

Pitt Gorilla 05-01-2009 02:53 PM

Pedescleaux was a great pickup for the Donx. It sucks when bad things happen to good kids.

Reaper16 05-01-2009 02:56 PM

Chargers had the best UDFA class, if only because they took Charly Martin and Sam Allen.

CoMoChief 05-01-2009 03:13 PM

Is it stupid to grade this ? Probably.

Having that said we probably could have gone after better players. Not really impressed with any of the players we picked up in UDFA

shammus 05-01-2009 03:17 PM

"...Chris Baker is one of the few guys in the draft class who has the frame to play 3-4 NT..."

I was hoping we'd take a look at him in the later rounds because I thought he'd be a decent project at the NT spot as well. Hope Tank turns out well....

BigRock 05-01-2009 03:21 PM

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2862/jumptheshark.jpg

Frazod 05-01-2009 03:22 PM

Yes, this will be very important in six months when they're all flipping burgers somewhere. LMAO

And why are you dogging on an AFC West team anyway? I thought you were a Bears fan.

Archie Bunker 05-01-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5732276)
Is it stupid to grade this ? Probably.

Having that said we probably could have gone after better players. Not really impressed with any of the players we picked up in UDFA

I'll have to agree with you on that, with a respected GM and plenty of opportunities to play I thought our UDFA haul would be a little better. Then again just because I've never heard of them doesn't mean they suck.

RealSNR 05-01-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5732286)
Yes, this will be very important in six months when they're all flipping burgers somewhere. LMAO

And why are you dogging on an AFC West team anyway? I thought you were a Bears fan.

:LOL:

ChiefRon 05-01-2009 03:38 PM

Grades for UDFA?

ROFL

Rooster 05-01-2009 03:39 PM

So basically if you sign a shitload of UDFA you get an A. :rolleyes:

ChiefRon 05-01-2009 03:41 PM

I do remember Beckwith's name being mentioned by Mayock in the later rounds, so not sure why we didn't do whatever it took to land him.

Spicy McHaggis 05-01-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5732212)
The Chiefs actually got some decent OLB prospects in Belcher and Walters, and a speedy corner in Bates, but I would expect a rebuilding team to do better, especially when they only spent three picks on defense even though they’re changing schemes.

I'm glad we got Walters as a UDFA. He showed well in the Texas v. The Nation game.

Denver Dave 05-01-2009 03:59 PM

Our scout team can beat yours, bitches! The Broncos are going to lead all 32 NFL teams in 4th quarter preseason scoring.

KCChiefsMan 05-01-2009 04:02 PM

lame, if you get one good player in a UDFA class, it's an A+++++++

Mile High Mania 05-01-2009 04:08 PM

And, just like everything else... grades really can't be given a week after the draft.

Denver has a boat load of new players, so it will be very interesting to see the lineup with this new look team.

RNR 05-01-2009 04:14 PM

LB Frantz Joseph, Florida Atlantic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNstliEo4Hs

bandwagonjumper 05-01-2009 04:53 PM

Lets not forget if a player doesnt want come to the Chiefs there is nothing there can unless vastly operpay. If I were a player I rather would go undrafted and take my chances as an UDFA than being drafted in the sixth or seventh round.

the Talking Can 05-01-2009 05:11 PM

now i understand

you traded Cutler for a great class of street trash


brilliant!

RJ 05-01-2009 05:16 PM

Oh no, there's some guy with a web site who thinks the Broncos have assembled a better collection of undrafted players than the Chiefs!

Damn you Scott!!

kstater 05-01-2009 05:20 PM

The Broncos have roughly 50 RB's on the roster, yet found enough room to sign another.

easymobee 05-01-2009 05:22 PM

All aspects are important. Rod Smith and Priest Holmes are 2 UDFAs that pop immediately to mind.
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chiefs1111 05-01-2009 05:24 PM

They grade rookie free agent signings now?? JFC

alanm 05-01-2009 05:42 PM

I see we signed Irving Fryars kid. :thumb:

the Talking Can 05-01-2009 05:49 PM

lexicon:

the only homers allowed on the planet are donko homers...

Micjones 05-01-2009 05:52 PM

Undrafted players DO make a difference on NFL rosters.
I can think of a few that've helped this organization over the years.
Talent evaluation is talent evaluation.
Find good football players every way possible.

KCwolf 05-01-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver Dave (Post 5732340)
Our scout team can beat yours, bitches! The Broncos are going to lead all 32 NFL teams in 4th quarter preseason scoring.


NICE.....your scout team RULES!! There should be a Scout team playoff and Super Bowl.....Denver would OWN the world!

In all honesty...some good pickups there BTW.

teedubya 05-01-2009 06:41 PM

sweet, we got Taurus Johnson twice... he better be REALLY good.

WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
DE Bobby Greenwood, Alabama
DB Londen Fryar, W. Michigan
DE Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida

CrazyPhuD 05-01-2009 07:08 PM

Shouldn't the UDFA grades come out at least after training camp when they've made the team. I mean unless they want to grade teams on who cut the best players too.....

booger 05-01-2009 07:20 PM

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T-post Tom 05-01-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5732458)
now i understand

you traded Cutler for a great class of street trash


brilliant!

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7310/welldonehg2.gif

Mile High Mania 05-01-2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5732508)
lexicon:

the only homers allowed on the planet are donko homers...

Seriously... that's been the case for about a decade now, why do so many question it?

HolmeZz 05-01-2009 07:58 PM

The Broncos did an awesome job signing guys who weren't thought of highly enough to be drafted. Congrats.

Quesadilla Joe 05-01-2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz (Post 5732787)
The Broncos did an awesome job signing guys who weren't thought of highly enough to be drafted. Congrats.

How did Priest Holmes work out for you guys?

chiefs1111 05-01-2009 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5732570)
sweet, we got Taurus Johnson twice... he better be REALLY good.

WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
DE Bobby Greenwood, Alabama
DB Londen Fryar, W. Michigan
DE Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida

:thumb:

RealSNR 05-01-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5732961)
How did Priest Holmes work out for you guys?

Who needs Priest Holmes when you can have Knowshon Moreno?

HolmeZz 05-02-2009 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 5732961)
How did Priest Holmes work out for you guys?

Sure did. Doubt he would've gotten Baltimore an A+ for their UDFA class the year he came out though.


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