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But if you put Steve Nash in short shorts and filmed in black and white, everyone would be saying "that dude could NEVER play in the league today!!" Except he was the MVP. |
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The NBA will never return to the ratings of the 80's but rights fees continue to ascend. Basketball, like baseball, has too many games and too many teams to get the kind of ratings each did back in the 70's and 80's. Personally, I think the game has improved both in the arena and on TV. Theses guys are just so ****ing big and so ****ing graceful in person. It's like they're a different species of human beings, altogether. Seriously. |
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It wouldn't even be close. |
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You have to remember that teams were better coached, more fundamentally sound, and just overall smarter. They also stayed together longer, which made the teams so much more fluid. Magic's Lakers would kick the hot shit out of Kobe's Lakers. |
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EDIT: Whoa whoa whoa... LIKELY KEEP UP? no, dude. No. |
I mean, you people realize that Shaq came into the league in the early 90's, right? I love how everyone thinks that somehow the 90's were the Paleolithic era with a bunch of 4 foot tall troglodytes shooting the ball underhanded.
There hasn't been a radical jump in human evolution in the past ten years. Yes, the guys now are bigger and stronger, but that's because they actually, you know, lift weights more. Put the 80's and 90's guys on a modern team with a modern training staff and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. |
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The only people that state that the NBA was "better" in the 80's and 90's are people that don't and haven't consistently watched basketball this millennium. |
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I love MJ, Pippen, Barkley, and Shaq but today's players are just bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic. Just like the players in the NFL have evolved. |
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What I do know is that I don't see any kids in any of my 3 boy's circles wearing NBA jerseys anymore, no posters of NBA players on their walls, they don't talk about the games or even care about going to them. I'm glad you enjoy today's NBA. I get nothing from it. And I used to love the NBA. Would sneak downstairs past my bedtime to watch playoffs when I was a kid. For me the game has lost it's toughness, lost it's credibility, lost it's mystic. Now it's just a bunch of grunts running up and down for a few months until playoffs start. |
I actually agree that people underrate the talent in the NBA today... there's some great players and teams out there.
Still, on the flipside, people act like George Mikan played in the 90s or something. There isn't a guy in the league that could guard 1994 Shaq. David Robinson was a tremendous athlete. Clyde Drexler, Karl Malone, etc... it goes back to the Dream Team arguments this summer. Maybe the current team would win, but not because they played 1950s basketball in the 90s. Posted via Mobile Device |
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Chris Anderson? The Gasol brothers, both whom look white but are Spaniards? Kirk Heinrich? Add to that, there's no one in the NBA with Michael Jordan's personality. Even with LeBron playing his ass off like Kobe before him, these guys just really don't cross the racial barrier like Jordan. He was special. Furthermore, there isn't one white basketball player that's on the same exact level as Howard, Kobe or James. Back in the 80's, it was Bird versus Magic and Bird versus Jordan. Today, it's Kobe versus LeBron and it just doesn't have the same appeal to white Americans. Quote:
I think it's because there are just too many regular season games in both MLB and the NBA. |
i get that the talent is better. but the markets are much worse. All the talent is playing together and dictating the power of each conference every offseason. It's now generation based, probably every 10 years it will take a team to load up on young players to keep them in the same circle so they want to play together. But you see the veterans want to play with vets, the guys in their late twenties (27 to 30) all want to play together, and the real young guys coming up are all building bonds.
But teams like the Magic, Wizards, Suns, etc. There isnt a good ****ing player on any of these markets. Face of your franchise is Michael Beasley? John Wall? JJ Reddick? those guys are not good by any stretch when you are comparing guys in the 80s and 90s that were the face of a market. |
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Good points all. I would submit that I loved the showtime Lakers even thought they had no white stars and I was a white kid in the middle of Iowa where we had 0 black people in school, church, etc. As a midwesterner I watched Magic and Greg Kelser play at Michigan State, Birdman at Indy State, and followed them to the NBA. Even before that I dug the NBA. I had the George Gervin sitting on a block of ice poster on my wall (next to Farah Fawcett and her nips and Linda Ronstadt). I will say that in the past two years I have liked the NBA more than I have since MJ retired thanks to the Thunder, Bulls, Pacers. Great ball movement, team D, no bullshit. Also have respect for the Spurs. |
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