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Cephalic Trauma 03-09-2013 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9479046)
William Bartee, Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Patrick Surtain, Bernie Pollard, Brandon Flowers, Javier Arenas, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen.

The Chiefs second round picks since 2000.

Oh, the horror of losing a second round pick. How will they survive it?
Comparing the current regime to the previous extremely incompetent regimes?

That's refreshing.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-09-2013 01:14 AM
Courtney Upshaw, Osemele, Ray Rice, Terrance Cody, Sergio Kindle, Paul Kruger--2nd rounders of the Ravens from 2008-2012.

Cephalic Trauma 03-09-2013 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9479051)
The Chiefs are also a god awful franchise. I have a feeling that the Ravens, Giants, and 49ers of late have made better use of said picks.
Which is what I'm hoping this regime can bring to KC. But saying they are doing well so far is premature and utterly dumb.

Most good teams build through the draft. That is much harder to do when you give up your 2nd for a game managing QB.

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9479046)
William Bartee, Eddie Freeman, Junior Siavii, Patrick Surtain, Bernie Pollard, Brandon Flowers, Matt Cassel, Javier Arenas, Rodney Hudson, Jeff Allen.

The Chiefs second round picks since 2000.

Oh, the horror of losing a second round pick. How will they survive it?
Was this a serious argument?

If you do your job you get Brandon Flowers in the 2nd.

If you don't you get nothing and then Dane McCloud sets up straw man arguments on Chiefsplanet.

We're going to look back on this trade in 4 years and think "it was great that we got Alex Smith and won nothing when player X could have been a long-term starter for us."

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2013 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9479055)
Comparing the current regime to the previous extremely incompetent regimes?

That's refreshing.
LMAO

Comparing Alex Smith to Matt Cassel isn't?

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2013 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479065)
Was this a serious argument?

If you do your job you get Brandon Flowers in the 2nd.

If you don't you get nothing and then Dane McCloud sets up straw man arguments on Chiefsplanet.

We're going to look back on this trade in 4 years and think "it was great that we got Alex Smith and won nothing when player X could have been a long-term starter for us."
No, no, NO!

If you ****tards can tell us that Alex Smith=Matt Cassel, then I have every ****ing right to display the Chiefs last 10 second rounders.

See how that works, ****boy?

Sorter 03-09-2013 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9479063)
Courtney Upshaw, Osemele, Ray Rice, Terrance Cody, Sergio Kindle, Paul Kruger--2nd rounders of the Ravens from 2008-2012.
Didn't Clark pick Pioli over DeCosta?

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KurtCobain 03-09-2013 01:17 AM
With that logic, you can pretty much compare anything shitty to anything else that's shitty.

Cephalic Trauma 03-09-2013 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9479066)
LMAO

Comparing Alex Smith to Matt Cassel isn't?
Do you need an elite QB to win in this league?

Is Alex elite?

Answer those two questions, then tell me the Alex Smith trade was a good one.

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2013 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9479076)
Do you need an elite QB to win in this league?

Is Alex elite?

Answer those two questions, then tell me the Alex Smith trade was a good one.
Nice. Moving the bedpans.

I hope you don't treat your patients with the same bedside manner of deflecting questions and arguments.

Cephalic Trauma 03-09-2013 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by something cooler (Post 9479073)
With that logic, you can pretty much compare anything shitty to anything else that's shitty.
No shit. My point exactly. That's why Dane's point was stupid as ****

el borracho 03-09-2013 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9478921)
rah, rah, rah!

So, this is how it is done. rah, rah, rah!
Yep, this is how you get to 8-8.

RunKC 03-09-2013 01:19 AM
I'll wait until after FA and the draft to see how they did for the offseason. They've done a good job so far though.

The only thing I'm worried about is Reid going all out in FA like he did in Philly, which really bit him in the ass. It's been proven over and and over and again winning SB's requires you to build through the draft, not FA.

Sorter 03-09-2013 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9479076)
Do you need an elite QB to win in this league?

Is Alex elite?

Answer those two questions, then tell me the Alex Smith trade was a good one.
Alex Smith doesn't need to be an elite QB for this trade to be beneficial.

For example, if KC took Geno/Barkley at 1.1 and Smith didn't play at an elite level but served as an effective mentor and helped them progress faster/better, would you still think the trade wasn't a good one?

Cephalic Trauma 03-09-2013 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9479079)
Nice. Moving the bedpans.

I hope you don't treat your patients with the same bedside manner of deflecting questions and arguments.
Okay, fine I'll answer yours.

Alex Smith is better than Cassel, but it will not translate into dramatically better play at the QB position that this franchise needs.

Now answer mine.


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