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Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 06:13 AM

****Official Biscuits and Gravy Thread****
 
Guys I need a good biscuits and gravy recipe for this weekend. One that's simply amazing. Some stories about the best restaurant purchased as well. What was the best b and g you have ever eaten? Also are you more of a fan of the top or bottom of the biscuit? Any and every thing about this topic shall be in this thread.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 06:16 AM

Biscuits and gravy are an art form. Not sure a recipe will help.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675912)
Biscuits and gravy are an art form. Not sure a recipe will help.

What is the best you have ever eaten FMB? I am sure you have a recipe to share.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 06:21 AM

Powdered gravy makes me want to punch kittens. FIL does that with Thanksgiving turkey and it blows my mind. He goes all out on Thanksgiving, scratch made everything and all fixings. Then... Powdered gravy.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 06:26 AM

I makes a mean sawmill gravy, but I've never really learned to make biscuits. I'm sad now.

Best I've had... Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the place, but it was this little cafe in Memphis. The gravy was just better than average, but the biscuits were other-worldly.

I can't really say about top or bottom. I guess I'm versatile. There are things I really prefer about each one. Tops are buttery and tender and flaky and yummy. Bottoms have a good crush and a bit of crunch, while also being tender and flaky.

As long as it's not a soggy biscuit, I'm good with whatever.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 06:30 AM

Hmmm. Well I am slightly surprised you don't make them. I am definitely a top of the biscuit kind of guy.

Powdered is ok, but you have to use the biscuit gravy mix and add in fresh sausage and pepper to season. A straight sausage gravy packet is blasphemy!

shakesthecat 06-07-2014 06:36 AM

If you're gonna make biscuits from scratch, go all in and use lard.

KCUnited 06-07-2014 06:41 AM

What gets lost in the gravy and biscuit fuss is the sausage. It's imperative to use a quality sausage. I'd recommend Mendolia's around the KC area.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675923)
Powdered is ok, but you have to use the biscuit gravy mix and add in fresh sausage and pepper to season. A straight sausage gravy packet is blasphemy!


No. No, no, noppity, nope.

Powdered gravy is an abomination. Don't make me put you on ignore.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675923)
Hmmm. Well I am slightly surprised you don't make them. I am definitely a top of the biscuit kind of guy.


Biscuits are pure baking, and generally I can't stand baking. I am getting into making bread, so I may try my hand at biscuits sometime.

shakesthecat 06-07-2014 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675934)
Biscuits are pure baking, and generally I can't stand baking. I am getting into making bread, so I may try my hand at biscuits sometime.

Biscuits are a LOT easier than bread. Yeast is a fickle bitch.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shakesthecat (Post 10675936)
Biscuits are a LOT easier than bread. Yeast is a fickle bitch.


Nah. Treat it right and it's easy. It gets a bad rep by people that treat it poorly.

unlurking 06-07-2014 07:04 AM

Downtown Cafe
Weatherford, TX

http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/301/1278...fe-Weatherford

Admittedly, it was the first/only time I've had chicken fried bacon so that may have unfairly influenced my taste buds.

http://a4.urbancdn.com/w/s/SL/IuFyC14HCbn8gI-640m.jpg

http://www.urbanspoon.com/w/s/kv/CJP...dzzRH-640m.jpg

ILChief 06-07-2014 07:06 AM

Bob Evans

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10675945)
Bob Evans


:deevee:

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675932)
No. No, no, noppity, nope.

Powdered gravy is an abomination. Don't make me put you on ignore.

I said IF they HAVE to do a packet :evil:

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:12 AM

Who else is a top of the biscuit guy?

Dunerdr 06-07-2014 07:13 AM

Top biscuit ftw! The best b&g are found in the oddest places like run down gas stations. You have to go sausage gravy tho. A local fast food joint called brains sells some killer frozen gravy.

ILChief 06-07-2014 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675946)
:deevee:

You thinking Cracker Barrel?

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675947)
I said IF they HAVE to do a packet :evil:


Goddammit. I said no.

If your options are ATM with MGT or powdered gravy, you better buy some douche.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10675951)
You thinking Cracker Barrel?


ROFL

Never go chains for superb food. They're consistent, but they lack soul.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10675950)
Top biscuit ftw! The best b&g are found in the oddest places like run down gas stations. You have to go sausage gravy tho. A local fast food joint called brains sells some killer frozen gravy.

Frozen gravy is also blasphemy! Get him FMB!!

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675953)
Goddammit. I said no.

If your options are ATM with MGT or powdered gravy, you better buy some douche.

Buzz will cry himself to sleep tonight

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675961)
Frozen gravy is also blasphemy! Get him FMB!!


Why would someone do this?!? Gravy is so easy to make. WHY!?!?!

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 07:29 AM

And jarred, too. **** that.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:30 AM

Guarendamteed someone tried this on there grill

Coogs 06-07-2014 07:33 AM

Here is one what we do and it is damn tasty... will feed six to eight.

For the gravy

A pound to pound and a half of fresh sausage
An equal pound to pound and a half of fresh hamburger to tame it down a bit
Brown sausage and hamburger in a 10 inch skillet, medium high heat.

If you have "good" sausage and hamburger, there will not be a lot of "grease" in the pan, so you will not need to drain grease off.

Add about one half or so of a cup of flour to browned sausage/burger and stir in for a minute or two... still on medium high heat.

Add milk to a depth that is higher than the meat in the skillet.

Add salt and pepper to taste.

Bring to a rapid boil while stirring occasionally to keep from sticking/burning to the pan.

Biscuits

Get the bisquick (sp) just add water packages at the grocery store. Get a couple of packages. They are damn good. We use original, as they have several favors.

Trust me, this is very good B & G, and very easy to do.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:36 AM

Rep for any pics of homemade b and g or your favorite restaurants

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 10675975)
Here is one what we do and it is damn tasty... will feed six to eight.

For the gravy

A pound to pound and a half of fresh sausage
An equal pound to pound and a half of fresh hamburger to tame it down a bit
Brown sausage and hamburger in a 10 inch skillet, medium high heat.

If you have "good" sausage and hamburger, there will not be a lot of "grease" in the pan, so you will not need to drain grease off.

Add about one half or so of a cup of flour to browned sausage/burger and stir in for about 20 to 30 seconds... still on medium high heat.

Add milk to a depth that is higher than the meat in the skillet.

Add salt and pepper to taste.

Bring to a rapid boil while stirring occasionally to keep from sticking/burning to the pan.

Biscuits

Get the bisquick (sp) just add water packages at the grocery store. Get a couple of packages. They are damn good. We use original, as they have several favors.

Trust me, this is very good B & G, and very easy to do.


I believe this is an OK start, but you'd get better flavor from your roux if you'd take out the meat and cook it longer - maybe 2-3 minutes. Thirty seconds isn't enough to get that raw flour flavor out.

Hoover 06-07-2014 07:38 AM

I don't have a recipe, but I go to this little locker that makes killer sausage, fry it up and use all the drippings to create my gravy. Flour, fennel, sage, pepper, whole milk.

My biscuit recipe

Biscuits
3 cups all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon sugar
1 tablespoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
8 tablespoons (1 stick) unsalted butter, cut into 1/2-inch pieces and chilled
4 tablespoons vegetable shortening, cut into 1/2-inch pieces and chilled
1 1/4 cups buttermilk (see note)

1. For the biscuits: Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 450 degrees. Line baking sheet with parchment paper. Pulse flour, sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt, butter, and shortening in food processor until mixture resembles coarse meal. Transfer to large bowl. Stir in buttermilk until combined.

2. On lightly floured surface, knead dough until smooth, 8 to 10 kneads. Pat dough into 9-inch circle, about 3/4 inch thick. Using 3-inch biscuit cutter dipped in flour, cut out rounds of dough and arrange on prepared baking sheet. Gather remaining dough, pat into 3/4-inch-thick circle, and cut out remaining biscuits. (You should have 8 biscuits in total.)

3. Bake until biscuits begin to rise, about 5 minutes, then rotate pan and reduce oven temperature to 400 degrees. Bake until golden brown, 12 to 15 minutes, then transfer to wire rack and let cool.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:41 AM

....but Hoover and Coogs are you a top or bottom of the biscuit guy? I need answers.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-07-2014 07:44 AM

I still have jonesing for the KSU Union b&gs from the 90s. So good.

I know, it's a sickness.

Coogs 06-07-2014 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675979)
I believe this is an OK start, but you'd get better flavor from your roux if you'd take out the meat and cook it longer - maybe 2-3 minutes. Thirty seconds isn't enough to get that raw flour flavor out.

Could be. I don't time things and probably am closer to a minute to minute and a half with everything in the pan. There is no flour taste to my gravy.

Hoover 06-07-2014 07:45 AM

I'm a top of the biscuit guy.

I also make mine gluten free for my wife. Can't tell the difference.

Coogs 06-07-2014 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675984)
....but Hoover and Coogs are you a top or bottom of the biscuit guy? I need answers.

Cut them in half and use both here.

Hoover 06-07-2014 07:47 AM

I would cook that flour as long as I thought I could. The longer you cook it the better the gravy in my opinion.

Hoover 06-07-2014 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 10675991)
Cut them in half and use both here.

Yeah, why waste part of a good biscuit?

Coochie liquor 06-07-2014 07:48 AM

2 beat places I've EVER had bng is Skyway Jacks in South St Pete, Lenny's in Clearwater. If I could have a bng showdown between those 2 I'd probably die if cardiac arrest.

Hoover 06-07-2014 07:49 AM

I don't know if its the best biscuits and gravy I've had but I love the fact that the Machine Shed Restaurants offer it as a side to any breakfast you order.

Coogs 06-07-2014 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10675992)
I would cook that flour as long as I thought I could. The longer you cook it the better the gravy in my opinion.

Absolutely! :thumb:

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 10675991)
Cut them in half and use both here.

That is a given. Which do you prefer?

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10675995)
2 beat places I've EVER had bng is Skyway Jacks in South St Pete, Lenny's in Clearwater. If I could have a bng showdown between those 2 I'd probably die if cardiac arrest.

Which was your favorite half of the biscuit Coochie? Any pics?

O.city 06-07-2014 07:53 AM

Chocolate gravy and biscuits.

Family recipe/tradition.

Best thing you've ever put in your mouth

Coogs 06-07-2014 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675998)
That is a given. Which do you prefer?

If I have to choose, top I guess. It's all good though.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10676002)
Chocolate gravy and biscuits.

Family recipe/tradition.

Best thing you've ever put in your mouth

Please share!!! Need Pics of this.... and you didn't answer the most important question.

Dunerdr 06-07-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10675961)
Frozen gravy is also blasphemy! Get him FMB!!

I will ship you this shit!

hometeam 06-07-2014 07:59 AM

My grandma always used Milnot in place of milk. Holy shitballs that is the best gravy.

Bacon Grease, milnot, salt and pepper, brown your flour. Beast it.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 08:06 AM

Ever had Shoney's biscuits and gravy?

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10676008)
I will ship you this shit!

Send it to FMB!

O.city 06-07-2014 08:06 AM

How do I post pics from my computer?

Pasta Little Brioni 06-07-2014 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10676009)
My grandma always used Milnot in place of milk. Holy shitballs that is the best gravy.

Bacon Grease, milnot, salt and pepper, brown your flour. Beast it.

Did she have any tattoos?

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10676014)
Send it to FMB!


:Grrrr:

Dunerdr 06-07-2014 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10676014)
Send it to FMB!

He'll probably burn the box on sight.

Dunerdr 06-07-2014 08:14 AM

In all seriousness when I make it myself I just feel out the right amounts. I like my gravy like I like my women, thick, rich and full of sausage.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 08:16 AM

What's the consensus of thick, then, or medium gravy? Personally, I like it really thick. Like you can cut it and it still hold some semblance of its shape.

Dunerdr 06-07-2014 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10676025)
What's the consensus of thick, then, or medium gravy? Personally, I like it really thick. Like you can cut it and it still hold some semblance of its shape.

That is how I like it. It can retain it's form to some extent on top of the biscuit after being cut.

O.city 06-07-2014 08:19 AM

I like it medium/thick.

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10676021)
He'll probably burn the box on sight.


I will cut you.

cdcox 06-07-2014 08:20 AM

Medium consistency.

Tops slightly better than bottoms, but not enough to make a fuss over.

Baby Lee 06-07-2014 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675918)
Powdered gravy makes me want to punch kittens. FIL does that with Thanksgiving turkey and it blows my mind. He goes all out on Thanksgiving, scratch made everything and all fixings. Then... Powdered gravy.

Of all the things out there, powdered gravy is WAAAY low on my list of gripes. The only gripe really is that you're not mixing your own spices, and you're thickening with corn starch. You'd be surprised how many really good gravies you've eaten in restaurants that are powder mixes. Boil water, add mix, stir. Perfect consistency. Add sausage. Impossible to tell from scratch after mulling for a 1/2 hour or so.

Baby Lee 06-07-2014 08:24 AM

Hardees makes biscuits from scratch, with LARD. We had a grandmotherly lady who came in an hour early every day to mix them up by hand and start the first batches. I've followed her process and it was the same as my grandma's, whose biscuits would have people coming from miles around just to stop off for fresh biscuits and Johnny's blackstrop.

Gravy is powdered mix with fresh sausage off the grill.

As good a single offering as you can get in fast food breakfast.

Coogs 06-07-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10676022)
In all seriousness when I make it myself I just feel out the right amounts.

This!

Fire Me Boy! 06-07-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 10676039)
This!


That's how you make gravy.

Coogs 06-07-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10676025)
What's the consensus of thick, then, or medium gravy? Personally, I like it really thick. Like you can cut it and it still hold some semblance of its shape.

Yep!

Coogs 06-07-2014 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10676031)
Of all the things out there, powdered gravy is WAAAY low on my list of gripes. The only gripe really is that you're not mixing your own spices, and you're thickening with corn starch. You'd be surprised how many really good gravies you've eaten in restaurants that are powder mixes. Boil water, add mix, stir. Perfect consistency. Add sausage. Impossible to tell from scratch after mulling for a 1/2 hour or so.

To be honest, I have never had restaraunt gravy that can hold a candle to homemade gravy.

R8RFAN 06-07-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675912)
Biscuits and gravy are an art form. Not sure a recipe will help.

Absolutely :thumb: Perfect gravy is an art Perfect biscuits are even harder to master

Predarat 06-07-2014 08:49 AM

The best homemade I have ever had is from my mom of course, the best at a restaurant was at the Sheppard Of The Hills restaurant in Branson. Not sure if that place is still around, and if it is if it is still good. Have not been there in over 10 years. For making my own, I do not have a recipe, but for the biscuits I take the easy route and buy frozen or pre made biscuits and simply heat them in the oven. For the gravy I take a pound of sausage, cook it, remove some of the grease if needed, then lightly coat the cooked sausage with flour, pour milk or cream into it while still on the skillet with the warm setting. Then add pepper and other spices, and keep pouring milk or thicken it with flour until it is the desired consistency. It takes a few times but once you get used to it you can get the hang of it. Thick gravy, thin gravy, you can make it the way you and the people eating it want it.

kstater 06-07-2014 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 10675912)
Biscuits and gravy are an art form. Not sure a recipe will help.

Yup.

Been making B&G from scratch every Sunday for 10+ years now.

Biscuits:

2 c flour
stick of butter
1tbs baking powder
tsp salt
tsp sugar
3/4 c milk added after butter is turned in to flour.


Gravy is hunk of sausage, milk flour salt and pepper. All done by feel.

R8RFAN 06-07-2014 09:14 AM

Biscuits
Buttermilk
Flour
Shortening

Gravy
Flour
Milk
Couple tablespoons of sausage drippings..

Ted Theodore Logan 06-07-2014 09:14 AM

Neighbor's Cafe in Lees Summit have the most excellent biscuits and gravy!

TLO 06-07-2014 09:18 AM

Over under set at 850 posts.

srvy 06-07-2014 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10675950)
Top biscuit ftw! The best b&g are found in the oddest places like run down gas stations. You have to go sausage gravy tho. A local fast food joint called brains sells some killer frozen gravy.

So true there is a gas station with a grill on 9 highway in Riverside, Mo. They serve a mean ass B&G in take home Styrofoam.

GloryDayz 06-07-2014 09:32 AM

Here's a quickie brief. Granted, the doode uses canned biscuits, but this will give you an idea of how to make the gravy.

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And if you want to make biscuits, watch this...

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GloryDayz 06-07-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Theodore Logan (Post 10676078)
Neighbor's Cafe in Lees Summit have the most excellent biscuits and gravy!

Yes, very good option for Lee's Summiters...

Simply Red 06-07-2014 09:46 AM

if you're making sausage gravy.

It's absolutely critical to scramble + pan fry the breakfast sausage, I'd elect the 'hot' jimmy dean. Anyhow - It's critical to cook until sausage is crispy pellets.

... and here's why...


Once you develop you roux from the sausage grease, adding the wet product will soften up the sausage just the right amount. See this will eliminate the elasticity of the pork and make it a texture anyone in their right mind would want in a gravy.

Also when you add the flour to the sausage and grease pit of the skillet - try to brown the flour - but only SLIGHTLY - also to finish your gravy add three Tablespoons of evaporated milk, more crushed red pepper and a teaspoon of sugar. This step really 'pulls the gravy together'

If you want to get cute; as you render the sausage, add a teaspoon of bacon grease.


These are all very solid techniques to a good 'country' style down home sausage gravy - AKA 'Sawmill gravy'

srvy 06-07-2014 09:47 AM

I got this recipe a long time ago watching Gone Fishing with Harold Ensley. Its simple but its good and I rarely stray from it.

1 lbs RB rice sausage mild, medium, hot or sage whatever you prefer. Note I substitute Aldi brand sausage sometime its excellent.

1 cup flour this is more or less the consistency you prefer.

1 stick sweet cream butter 2 if your bold.

2 cups heavy cream

whole milk for consistency added as needed

Salt and pepper to taste.

Brown the sausage in large iron skillet.
Drain the grease if your a skinwuss.
Add butter
When melted add flour lower heat till you have a sticky roue sp?
Add the heavy cream bring to boil reduce heat
As it thickens add whole mild a little at a time till you have gravy you like.
Salt and pepper to taste.

The biscuits were just standard jiffy using buttermilk or regular milk with a lil vinegar mixed in its a substitute for buttermilk. Cook in cast iron dutch oven optional.

I do biscuits scratch to damn much work Jiffy or buy the Grands. Sams Club flats of biscuits are good for a crowd.

This is a tasty hearty breakfast and simple.

As for places out for B&G I like Country Cafe in Riverside.

Chief Roundup 06-07-2014 09:48 AM

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Chocolate Gravy is damn good too.

Chief Roundup 06-07-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10675945)
Bob Evans

That place sucks ass.

ThaVirus 06-07-2014 09:51 AM

The worst biscuits and gravy I've ever tasted were from Cracker Barrel.

The best I've ever tasted were from this smaller breakfast spot called Peach Valley. I only know of one but the place has great food and the best prices in town.

First Watch is also a great breakfast spot, if you guys have those.

Bowser 06-07-2014 09:52 AM

Goddammit. Now I'm going to punt a puppy if I don't get some kick ass B&G sooner rather than later. Piss on all of you.


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