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notorious 03-26-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14869182)
Yeah, Trivers that's what everyone is waiting for.

That's what i'm gonna try and get. Then I'm gonna lay everyone off and pocket the cash.

No not really.

You are supposed to insert an evil laugh at the end of this post.

Mr. Plow 03-26-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14869182)
Yeah, Trivers that's what everyone is waiting for.

That's what i'm gonna try and get. Then I'm gonna lay everyone off and pocket the cash.

No not really.

:)

notorious 03-26-2020 11:50 AM

Mortgage must be in place before Feb 15 if you want a loan to cover it.

My scheme is in shambles already.

O.city 03-26-2020 11:51 AM

Actually I wouldn't. I'd gladly scale way back on work.

You guys think I wanna be digging around in peoples mouths right now? **** that. Give me capitol to pay everyone and keep the business up for a few months and I'll lock myself away at home.

notorious 03-26-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14869246)
Actually I wouldn't. I'd gladly scale way back on work.

You guys think I wanna be digging around in peoples mouths right now? **** that. Give me capitol to pay everyone and keep the business up for a few months and I'll lock myself away at home.

Yep.

Yosef_Malkovitch 03-26-2020 12:03 PM

I am a lawyer, and I do divorces. My income from that has dropped by 82% since March 6th. Much of the income that I have had since then has been from pre-existing clients making payments on their accounts.

My phone is usually ringing off the hook but it's been so quiet the last 3 weeks that I actually checked with my Google guy to see if he had done something to the advertising. It turns out that nobody is even clicking on the ads right now. People are just too worried about getting by to bother with any extra expenses.

I did some research, and divorce rates typically increase after a crisis like this (as do marriages--evidently people get more emotional in both directions). When the dust settles, I do expect to get a lot of calls from people who have been forced to stay home together.

However, if everyone is out of work for a long time, I don't know how they will be able to afford a divorce even if they want it. This could end up impacting my practice for a long time.

ChiliConCarnage 03-26-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yosef_Malkovitch (Post 14869285)
I did some research, and divorce rates typically increase after a crisis like this (as do marriages--evidently people get more emotional in both directions). When the dust settles, I do expect to get a lot of calls from people who have been forced to stay home together.

Is that true when the crisis might still kill your spouse? Leaving you not to have to deal with divorce and a bonus possible fat life insurance check?

Screw divorce, Id be praying for the Rona to take her.

Buehler445 03-26-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14868952)
Smoking. Suddenly quite heavily.

Great time to pick up that habit.

Never took you for a smoker.

As an asthmatic and a guy that’s seen family members die essentially from smoking I’d urge you to quit. Do something else. Anything else.

Shiver Me Timbers 03-26-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14869404)
Never took you for a smoker.

As an asthmatic and a guy that’s seen family members die essentially from smoking I’d urge you to quit. Do something else. Anything else.

Agree 1000 %

DJ's left nut 03-26-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14869404)
Never took you for a smoker.

As an asthmatic and a guy that’s seen family members die essentially from smoking I’d urge you to quit. Do something else. Anything else.

Eh - 3/day during the weekdays.

So...kinda.

But yeah, the last two weeks have been just about on the hour. I've spent the last two days trying to anchor myself to the chair to just not go outside. The fact that my actual day to day workload has petered out to damn near nothing combined with the stress of all this is just a real bad combo.

Should probably go get sunflower seeds or something and then just use little 10 minute intervals to chew on 'em.

O.city 03-26-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 14869220)

Any ideas on when this is going to come available?

Johnny Vegas 03-26-2020 01:28 PM

I’ve paid rent through May already. Just staying on top of bills for now. I cut directv after ten years. Refinanced credit cards are now paid off and paying a lower interest rate to pay off the loan in 2 years

Trivers 03-26-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14869551)
Any ideas on when this is going to come available?

Just talked to two bankers....they are waiting on guidelines from SBA....who is waiting on House to agree/change Senate bill...they had no clue how soon SBA guidelines will be ready.

Still trying to figure out how much one can borrow under this Paycheck Protection Act...I read that 2.5 times your average payroll amount of the prior 12 months???

O.city 03-26-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 14869593)
Just talked to two bankers....they are waiting on guidelines from SBA....who is waiting on House to agree/change Senate bill...they had no clue how soon SBA guidelines will be ready.

Still trying to figure out how much one can borrow under this Paycheck Protection Act...I read that 2.5 times your average payroll amount of the prior 12 months???

Thats what I'm trying to figure out.

DJ's left nut 03-26-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14869551)
Any ideas on when this is going to come available?

Sounds like it will be administered through the local banks.

So...maybe make an appointment quickly.

There's so much shit in there to parse through and dissect that it's still going to be difficult to figure out how it works in practice. But hey, if worst case scenario I end up w/ a 10 year note with no personal guarantee that is 100% backed by the SBA at a rate not to exceed 4% for a million bucks....ugh...that'll suck dicks. But I can proooooobably make that work.

That's another $10K/month I'll have to find in the budget. So...y'know...no profit for 5 years. But it's workable.

The only thing that has me spooked is backing. If I gotta pay it back, I gotta pay it back. Shit happens. But I at least need to GET it first and if banks tighten up and I can't get the engines re-started, that's the nightmare scenario.

From what I've read I think we'll try to reduce any buyout payments by as much as we can, reduce all salaries by 25%, move on from college and part-time staff and let the chips fall where they may. I think that gets us quite a bit of cover here but it's hard to know exactly how much.

But if I can combine that cover with the security of knowing there will at least be the "well now you have to pay this back over 10 years" fallback, so be it.


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