Not very well.

8 years of service earns my respect. turning around and being a a-hole flushes it right down the toilet. that's america, exactly what you fought for, am I right?

Badass Akula class sub:

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.50339...47321&pid=15.1

The 45 kt speedster Alfa Class sub:

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.46741...31176&pid=15.1

They do have some sleek looking subs, makes me wonder how they are so noisy but I know little about the Navy.

I do appreciate the respect and I am not one to take respect lightly, let alone flush it down the toilet as though it doesn't matter!

What I fought for? I left the USMC as an E-6 after giving 8 years of my life because I realized ( through discernment ) what I believed was worth giving my life for and what my children were having to sacrifice for, doesn't exist in this country any longer.

I usually stay away from DC type topics because of my passion for this once Great Nation. This morning I slipped. Should had stayed away from commenting in this thread.

Again Sorry for offending you guys! Go Chiefs!

They probably maxed out everything in the sub just like they did with everything else, fine sound details be damned.

The energy it takes to move a big boat at 45 kts is astounding. The reactor had to be glowing.

No worries...

It is kind of funny though that Russia is building up their Navy with more nuclear submarines. I think that time is long gone.. are they really going to start blowing off nukes at everyone? Bunch of crazy bastards.

Of course, I wish it was more about disarming the nukes, but then the nuclear material would probably just be sold to Iran anyway.

When it comes to defense/deterance:

One nuclear submarine = Entire conventional force



I was surprised to see how much money they were putting into their subs.

I read this and my first thought sounded like something out of a Clancey book. Loved reading his submarine chase/battle/hunt scenes...

You're wrong. Not just my opinion, just plain, obvious fact.

WE spend over 40% of all dollars spent in the world on the military. Let me say that again: for every 60 cents spent by everybody else in teh world combined, we spend about 40 cents.

http://cdn1.globalissues.org/i/milit...ution-2011.png

We spend more on the military now, in inflation adjusted dollars, than we did during the Cold War.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...seSpending.PNG


We also spend more than twice as much on the military as China, and about TEN times more than Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_expenditures

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/spending.htm



I'll stop there and stop arguing political stuff in this thread as I don't want to be the guy who gets it bounced to DC, but I couldn't let that one pass. The consistent unbelievable ignorance about US military spending is just incredibly annoying.

Ok..this is my last comment in this forum! With all dues respect sir, I never mentioned spending but since you did I will reply. One of the biggest problems with this Nation is thinking more spending means better. We have and continue to over spend leaving us weak and very vulnerable. I could give many many examples and facts but I will do everyone here the favor and not.

People don't debate the ideas now, they attack the person.

You obviously haven't been to a strip club lately.

Dumbass.

Yes we spend more on our military than the entire world combined. We are so weak...

The "Oscar" class sub was designed for one thing: to destroy an Aircraft Carrier.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.47194...12542&pid=15.1
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.49105...02988&pid=15.1

This fat bastard carries 72 large anti-ship missles.