i said upcoming Season
they're not on the roster this season.

1) How can someone who has never played an NFL snap suck
2) McFistpump's other QBs(Cutler & Tebow) have won playoff games
3) It's Friday make sure you have Kool-Aid

WTF?? You asked whether or not Quinn had talent around him like we did? I pointed out, we were starting players like Jones and Pope last year(when the comparable stats for Cassel occured), which should have given you a clue that Cassel wasn't work with much last year, thus answering your question.

Cassel was surrounded with all Pros in the Pro Bowl and threw 4 INTs.ROFL

(with no Blitzing)

You know you can't defend that prick. Stop trying. Geez. :shake:

thank you

That describes 99.999% of the US population....

I understand he's average at best, but I was merely pointing out Quinn isn't any better and I can't believe so many fans actually hold out so much hope for a QB that has put up Croyle type numbers and a late rate QB, who's slated to be our number 3 QB, again.

I see one as a stop-gap (the one year contract backs that theory), because the third stringer isn't ready to take over the number two spot, but I have little faith in Quinn miraculously turning into something he hasn't shown to be, thus far.

Stanzi, I have some understanding of seeing what he has due to his age, but he's still raw and needs a lot of work. I'll be ecstatic if he earns the number two spot, but until then, he's just another late round QB fighting for a roster spot, when we've seen this so many times and it's never worked out for us.

I'm holding out little hope that he actually turns into a fabulous starting QB in the league, because I've yet to see the Chiefs develop a QB worth a shit, let alone a late round QB. Wish it wasn't so, but that's the way I see it.

its better than holding out hope for Cassel who has two winning seasons vs the easiest schedule's possible.
the NFC WEST with the Pats and Chiefs.

Don't come in barking up this ****ing tree. You're not even a Chiefs fan. Consider it a an honor to discuss the topics at hand, but don't think your opinion holds much stock around here, when discussing our players.

I have never once defended Cassel, merely pointed out, FACTS, that hopefully, bring some insight to the discussion and keep the blinded from cornering the market on such witty insight as "Cassel sucks."

I prefer to actually discuss the issues, but so many use vauge and broad brushstrokes that bare little fruit and use the dog-pile mentality. I prefer to keep it real.

Cassel has player better than Quinn. Period. I know that doesn't fall in line with average Cassel sucks fan, but I really don't give a shit, because I'm interested in the facts, not somebody's opinion.

Do I think Cassel is great? No, far from it, but I'm also not so ****ing blind, that I'm going to ignore the actual numbers that support how they play on the field, when it counts.

Put Quinn in the same situation as Cassel......and Quinn would have put up better numbers.

Wrong. I understand people are fed up with Cassel, but why go out of your way to make shit up?

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=310130032

According to the link Cassel threw 2 TDs and 2 INTs, the same as Rivers and better than Peyton Manning's 0 TDs and 1 INT.

there must have been two called back because i remember 4 INTs on Cassel.

this is exactly what i was saying.

We also have to take into account, the factors that potentially contributed to his numbers being padded a bit.