So, how do you guys react if the Walrus waits to pick a QB until later rounds
 

How many of you who think Clark hired the right guy will be spitting nails if the Walrus waits until round 2-3 to draft a QB? How many will be shouting you stupid M -F? How many will want his head on a stick?

I'd be a little pissed but he does have a track record with developing QBs and giving that position high priority
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Same shit different drivers.

We have the first overall pick, take the best QB prospect available.

you mean if we do what we've been doing for 30 years?

i'll be thrilled like all true fans

:huh:

It's not going to happen. As long as Geno shows at the combine that he is better than everyone else he will be our QB. Reid will probably still bring in another guy to compete though.

I'll be fine if we don't take one 1 overall as long as we trade back into the 1st to get one.

By that time, we'll have likely had a new QB on the roster for 6 weeks, and will have known long before the draft begins who we're taking at #1. So while I will be (very) disappointed I doubt I'll be all that angry.

The only QB I'd be remotely close to being "okay" with in late rounds is Tyler Bray.

Dude would look s lot nuttier if the gun wasn't on half -cock.

If it turns out that he doesn't think Geno or some other top prospect can get shit done and someone like Bray tops his list then w/e.

But if he passes on his top QB at #1 because that QB "isn't worth the #1 pick" then I'll flip the switch.

Why would they do something that stupid? You have the #1 pick in the draft you take the best QB period

His leash goes well beyond the back yard with me, he'll have to go hard after jason campbell, matt flynn or some other turdburger before i get a hairlip.

This guy KNOWS what its all about, he isnt going to settle for anyone who isnt able to do everything he needs them to do, able to make all of the big throws that his downfield attack requires.

Thats the biggest thrill of this hire, he needs a damn good quarterback to execute his scheme... yeah, so he whiffed on vick, but it didnt look like it at first, he had that guy chucking lasers ALL over the field in 2010.

Fired.

THIS!
I've been supporting taking a QB with the #1 pick. Identify your QOTF and take him #1, **** draft value. Why risk someone jumping in front of you and taking your QOTF?

But now with Reid safely in place. I trust Reid will get us a top NFL QB. It's a part of who he is, how he runs a team. He will GIT-R-DONE!

I could go for this as well. If Bray dropped to the 2nd round and we picked him up there I would not be too heartbroken.

Vicks big issue is his health I think. He can't stay on the field long enough to develop any kind of consistency anymore. Other than being consistently hurt & inaccurate.

My opinion is that if Reid see's his QOTF in some SEC QB that will go in the 2nd round I'll not be pissed. I guess its just trust given his background that he will get us a top QB.

I'll be pissed. More of the same.

Yep, cant stay healthy and sucks at reading a defense, the second part really caught up to him in 2011.

I'm cool with that, as I have to believe he will pick up a valuable QB, somewhere in the draft:thumb:

I don't understand why everyone thinks it's one or the other. To me, it's both. There's not currently a QB on this team. Andy will get Alex Smith AND draft a QBOTF.

Why would he trade for Alex Smith?

I'd rather keep Stanzi and let him rot on the inactive roster than waste picks to trade for ****ing Alex Smith.

because other teams can draft and play rookies, but no us...

Yeah I don't think so....

There will probably be 3-4 QB's taken in the first round like there is every year

I trust Reid. I'm going to roll with that until he proves me wrong. I hope it's a QB, but his evaluation is better than any of ours.

WHY WAIT AND SEE

FIRE REID NOW

Not going to happen.

yeah; if the highest ranked QB after it's all said and done is said to go in the 20's, then they must know something I don't. in that case, take who you want 1, then get back into the 1st.

um, because we want to WIN! Duh!

I said the same thing about Pioli. Not playing that game anymore homey.

And we are going to win by trading for a backup QB?

This fanbase...

Exactly. Just get a free agent.

I agree. Its the only position worth the one pick and we need a qb sooooooo bad we have too.

It would be strike one unless he does something equally as stupid prior to the draft.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

not trying to flame or anything; but serious question.
what if the best rated QB is slated to go at #20 or later; do you take him #1?

That's happened like never.

ok; Ill rephrase; whats the furthest down in the first round where a qb is ranked would be too much of a reach etc.
10? 15? etc.

just curious. for me, it would be outside of 5-8.

Ok...a lot of this depends on how fire me boy's bacon turns out.
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First year in Green Bay, they traded a first for Brett Favre. His first year in Philadelphia, they drafted Donovan McNabb 2nd overall. I think they are drafting a quarterback.

Reid is not a dumb mother ****er like Pioli so I know I don't have to worry about that happening.

Also, Reid hasn't had recent success with middle round picks necessarily.

Kevin Kolb sucks.

Nick Foles sucks even more.

Best way to ensure not getting one of those two? Go FIRST ROUND with your QB. Take the best guy.

I would rather have Reid and a second rounder. Than Pioli, RGIII and revolving third rate HCs and OCs.

You silly bitch, how dare you make sense.

If Kolb weren't made of obsidian he'd be a middle of the road qb at worst.

I will doctor potatoes to look like hand grenades and then throw them at his office if he does not select a quarterback with the first pick.

This assumes of course that all of the elite prospects don't have accidents with antifreeze, aids trees, Jovan Belcher, or other natural hazards between now and the draft.

If Reid waits until the 2nd or 3rd, that guy better start immediately and succeed soon after.

You can find franchise QBs in the lower rounds....Montana, Brady, Russell Wilson.

Russel Wilson remains to be seen if he is a true franchise QB. Montana and Brady are the exceptions, not the rule. Brady was pure fluke, as far as where he was drafted to what he became.

The rule is that franchise QBs come in the first round, most in the top side of rd1 if not #1 overall.

Sure there are misses.

This is from 2009 but it still illustrates my point. In fact you could argue since 09 the balance is skewed more to QB favor...

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftqu...ckriskmyth.php

So what does this really show? Its a close hit/bust rate on QBs? Yes. But pay attention. 50% Hit rate, thats a good QB. You have a 50% shot at a franchise guy. TAKE IT. Don't be stupid Clark! Quit being a pussy and go for the gold~


edit - another nice tidbit.

I'll get a banner.

LMAO

Save your 1s and 0s dude. I'm trolliin

My prediction: #1 BAA and then trade up into late first round to take the QB.

So your plan is Tyler Bray?
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Who is the BAA?

MANTI TE'O

Errp uhh...

Barrett Jones?

Do you want to win, or do you just want to emulate other teams?

If we win I don't give a shit if it is like other teams or not. As long as we win.

Those other teams are winning. Take a look at the rosters of the playoff teams.

If you think this is about anything OTHER than winning, you haven't been paying attention.

If we pass on a QB in the first round I will probably have an atypically bad initial reaction. Depending on Reid's solution to the problem, I may get over it. If we somehow do not draft a QB in the first three rounds, I will not even watch the games (just as I didn't bother watching the games this year).

It seems like TC and some others are jealous of what other teams are doing and want to emulate them exactly. That is fine, but frankly I don't care how we win as long as we win. If we do it with a 1st RD pick or we do it with a 6th RD like Brady what the **** does it matter?

Reid has a good history with QBs. I trust him to get the right one, however he chooses to do it. I don't need to try to be like the cool kids. I just want to win.

The thing is, winning with a 6th rounder like Brady is a once-in-a-generation occurrence.

Why do we want to draft a QB? Because history tells us it gives us the highest probability of WINNING.

I trust him a lot more than I would if pioli were making that pick

I would like for us to draft a 1st RD QB. But I trust Reid to find QB and as long as he wins I don't care where he gets the QB. It isn't about the process for me, it is about the RESULT.

The ONLY reason it's about the process for me is because recent NFL history is undeniable. Chiefs history is undeniable.

The way to win is to get the QB, period. Doing anything else is just fighting a an uphill battle.

Yes, the way to win is to get the QB. How you get that QB isn't as important as getting him to me. Clearly it is to you.

Tom Brady happens once in, well...FOREVER.

It absolutely matters how you get your QB.

No, it doesn't. As long as you get the QB you need. Taking an inferior QB in the first round just because you desperately want a first round QB when you can get a better one another way just wouldn't make sense (not saying that is the way it will be, this is a hypothetical).

For some of you it is about the process - being like the cool kids - instead of the result.

Yeah, you just like to act like a ****ing girl as usual.

****ing "cool kids" bush league bullshit.

Should have known you were baiting. Grow up.

In The Walrus I Trust.

Seriously, it feels so good to have a legit coach and what looks like it will be a legit front office and coaching staff, not to mention an owner who decided after last season's abomination that he (and we) deserved better and went in to beast mode, that I'm ready to give them all the benefit of the doubt for a couple of years.

Tajh boyd is this years russell wilson. Snatch him in the third if he declares. I still hope for geno.

Cool. But we need a suicide watch for all the people here who think Geno hung the moon. He is an Ok Qb. But Id bet the new guy is looking beyond an Ok Qb. Its 50/50 at best we get Geno.

Have you ever seen Tajh Boyd play?

The comparison to Russell Wilson is about as far off as you can get.

Yeah, blah blah, aids tree, anti-freeze blah blah.

I am an adult, that is why I feel no need to be cool. If you want to be a child be my guest.

@mr_tomahawk
@Jacobs71 after reids QB comments 2day, u think we pass on a 1st rnd qb?

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
@mr_tomahawk I don't think he will reach. That's for sure.

if its a double action it doesn't matter