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ShowtimeSBMVP 03-22-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9520708)
Not really, with the scheme he was playing in and the QB that he was protecting has really helped his draft stock and to disguise his weaknesses.


LOL Go look at 2010 and 2011

ChiefsCountry 03-22-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9520745)
I'd rather play Albert under the tag this year and draft Jake Matthews next year.

Yep. Jake Matthews is the true stud prospect down in College Station.

nychief 03-22-2013 10:32 AM

I think they see Joekel as a big upgrade over Albert, not a lateral move as many have suggested.

DaKCMan AP 03-22-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9520755)
I think they see Joekel as a big upgrade over Albert, not a lateral move as many have suggested.

How big of an upgrade do you expect when the guy you're replacing gave up 1 sack? Talk about marginal return.

saphojunkie 03-22-2013 10:33 AM

So, option A)

Branden Albert
Geno Smith
#34 overall draft pick


VS.

Luke Joeckel
Alex Smith
#42 overall draft pick

I will take column A every day of the ****ing week.

The absolutely ONLY way they can begin to recover from this cluster**** is to trade out of the first spot with Buffalo, get a 2104 first rounder, and still get Eric Fisher.

Otherwise, what the **** was any of this for?

ModSocks 03-22-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9520735)
I do not like any of this, but I really don't see it as a lateral move. Yes, it's LT for LT, but Albert is 7 years older. That is huge in this league.

Not drinking the Kool-aide, just trying to cope. :)

He might be 7 years younger, but some guys in this thread are acting like Albert's tank is on empty. Albert should have 4-5 more years of productive play in him. So for the next 4-5 years, the move is still a wash....unless of course your only argument is that it's going to save them money....which is a lame argument imo.

philfree 03-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJay (Post 9520707)
I am thinking they really like Ryan Nassib out of Syracuse..

We would basically trading Albert (while replacing him with a better prospect coming out of college in Joeckel) and getting Alex Smith and Ryan Nassib...

That is how am looking at it, anyway..

I doubt Reid doubles up Syracuse QBs.

MahiMike 03-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9520718)
What?

Another incoming regime that doesn't respect their OL.

ChiefsCountry 03-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9520750)
I did read somewhere that scouts think Matthews will be better suited at lt than joeckel

Everybody knows that. Hell A&M put Matthews on the right side because he is a better run blocker than Jockel and wanted to put both of them on the field. I really don't get the hard on for Jockel at all.

suds79 03-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9520755)
I think they see Joekel as a big upgrade over Albert, not a lateral move as many have suggested.

Well if they take a LT 1.1, he'd better f-in be a upgrade over Albert.

Realistic or not, when you take a LT 1.1, that's what you'd better get.

The Franchise 03-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9520760)
He might be 7 years younger, but some guys in this thread are acting like Albert's tank is on empty. Albert should have 4-5 more years of productive play in him. So for the next 4-5 years, the move is still a wash....unless of course your only argument is that it's going to save them money....which is a lame argument imo.

The save money argument is a meh argument anyways. If we draft Joeckel...his full contract is guaranteed.

ChiefsCountry 03-22-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9520757)
How big of an upgrade do you expect when the guy you're replacing gave up 1 sack? Talk about marginal return.

With Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn at quarterback. That makes that stat even more impressive.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-22-2013 10:35 AM

"Don't judge Alex and Luke, this is an evaluation year."

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-22-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9520757)
How big of an upgrade do you expect when the guy you're replacing gave up 1 sack? Talk about marginal return.

What about the 9 he gave up in 2009 and 7 in 2010?

PRIEST 03-22-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9520697)
I'm not really the Geno crowd. I think most fans around here can see that we're replacing a player that doesn't need replaced and pissing away a 1st round pick in the process. This draft represents so much hope and these guys are pissing it away. We're going to swap LTs and we've we brought in a marginal upgrade at QB and we'll have given up the 1.1 and the 2.2. That's pissing away the best draft picks you can have.





Yep


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